Embarrassed taking money from friends for work done.
Embarrassed taking money from friends for work done.
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Major Fallout

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5,278 posts

261 months

Tuesday 15th November 2016
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I have finally got off my arse with a little bullying from my wife and set down the road to becoming a professional artist.

It's something I have been hiding, but lately just not shouting about. I have posted paintings on here and sold about 12 on eBay over the last 4 years. But nothing much, mostly because I paint nudes.

But a few weeks ago at our wedding I gave our maid of honour a life size paining of her horses head, a 3ft x3ft canvas.
That's when everything went crazy. It was a bit of a shock to the guests as most of my friends think I'm useless at most things. I can drive and play with old cars but that was it.

Anyway my wife setup a Facebook page with prices offering commissions, and this week I have had 4 orders from friends. 2 cats 1 horse and 1 dog.

But I can't shake this feeling of guilt taking my friends money.
My friends don't know this yet but the ones that have ordered this week are going to get the painting for free because of the massive help they have been on the run up to the wedding.

But I can't keep finding excuses to give the away. They might not cost much to make but they do take up a lot of my time.


TL;DR
I feel guilty selling my paintings to friends, how do I get over it?


lukefreeman

1,502 posts

205 months

Tuesday 15th November 2016
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Don't charge them then.

Just either accept donations to cover consumables, or just say "Donate to this charity please"


SHutchinson

2,383 posts

214 months

Tuesday 15th November 2016
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This horses head. Was it some kind of threat!? laugh

andy-xr

13,204 posts

234 months

Tuesday 15th November 2016
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When I take my car to my cousin (He's a mechanic) he tries to do me a deal. Like, parts at cost, barely any labour and without VAT etc. I tell him every time, I'm having my car serviced there because he's family and I want to support his business, I'm not there to try and get cheaper servicing. It got to the point last time where I just paid him cash what I'd been quoted by another garage

gregs656

12,390 posts

211 months

Tuesday 15th November 2016
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I would be cautious about not charging. I have seen it happen a couple of times to artisan type makers where they charge too little, get inundated with orders and the whole thing becomes a massive chore to the point where they just pack it in, sometimes not in great circumstances and on poor terms with customers.

Charge for your time.

B17NNS

18,506 posts

277 months

Tuesday 15th November 2016
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Link to your FB page please smile

Sheepshanks

41,227 posts

149 months

Tuesday 15th November 2016
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When you said "nudes" I wasn't thinking of cats, horses and dogs....

graham22

3,326 posts

235 months

Tuesday 15th November 2016
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Major Fallout said:
I paint nudes.
I paint nude .... Major Fallout - I suggest better trousers.


Just a random thought, why not ask for friends for a donation to charity? Obviously this might bite you again if you go 'professional'.

98elise

32,732 posts

191 months

Tuesday 15th November 2016
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Sheepshanks said:
When you said "nudes" I wasn't thinking of cats, horses and dogs....
Me neither, when I read this I was expecting a completely different ending...

"... nothing much, mostly because I paint nudes. But a few weeks ago at our wedding I gave our maid of honour a life size painting of her..."

fttm

4,589 posts

165 months

Tuesday 15th November 2016
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My wife runs a custom picture framing business , no discounts no matter who you are . Giving deals isn't part of the equation .

Dejay1788

1,314 posts

159 months

Tuesday 15th November 2016
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Mates rates?

Hugo a Gogo

23,437 posts

263 months

Tuesday 15th November 2016
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98elise said:
Sheepshanks said:
When you said "nudes" I wasn't thinking of cats, horses and dogs....
Me neither, when I read this I was expecting a completely different ending...

"... nothing much, mostly because I paint nudes. But a few weeks ago at our wedding I gave our maid of honour a life size painting of her..."
yeah, I thought 'Horse's head', never heard that euphemism before...

MYOB

5,128 posts

168 months

Tuesday 15th November 2016
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The orders from your friends followed from your wife posting for commission with prices listed. Your friends subsequently put in requests following this. Thus, they must be thinking they are paying, and in all honestly, would be horrified if you did them for free.

Charge them, even if it's a special rate.

MitchT

17,157 posts

239 months

Tuesday 15th November 2016
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Why should you be embarrassed taking payment for your work? They weren't embarrassed to receive your work?

As for 'mates rates' ... I don't buy into this concept. Why should I do something on the cheap because someone is my mate? I could flip it on its head and argue that as I am their mate that they should pay me extra. Just set your price and stick to it, whoever the customer is.

Major Fallout said:
They might not cost much to make but they do take up a lot of my time.
And your time has a value. Don't forget that.

The Moose

23,684 posts

239 months

Tuesday 15th November 2016
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fttm said:
My wife runs a custom picture framing business , no discounts no matter who you are . Giving deals isn't part of the equation .
I know someone just like that. All fine...except they expect discounts from all friends at any and every available opportunity!

Sheepshanks

41,227 posts

149 months

Tuesday 15th November 2016
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98elise said:
Me neither, when I read this I was expecting a completely different ending...

"... nothing much, mostly because I paint nudes. But a few weeks ago at our wedding I gave our maid of honour a life size painting of her..."
He actually said he gave the MoH a life size paining....

768

20,756 posts

126 months

Tuesday 15th November 2016
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I don't charge friends (not an artist).

There's too much potential for it to cause problems and I only bother to keep friends I value more than small amounts of work.

As a consequence though I do very little professional work for friends.

mr_spock

3,376 posts

245 months

Tuesday 15th November 2016
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Get your wife to handle the money. She put up the ad with prices, so she should be fine with it.

Jimmy Recard

17,551 posts

209 months

Tuesday 15th November 2016
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The thing that upsets me is going out of your way to do mates rates, even losing money on a job occasionally. Then at some point you deal with that person and you get no concession at all.

I've written people off for good for that.

trickywoo

14,237 posts

260 months

Tuesday 15th November 2016
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NSFW

OP does have a good eye. https://www.facebook.com/JeremyGibsonArt/photos/a....

I'd probably draw the line at requests from friends to paint their birds.