WTF flea bay
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BigLion

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1,497 posts

129 months

Sunday 20th November 2016
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Sold a digital code for an xbox game via flea bay - emailed the code to the buyers PayPal email address.

A couple of weeks go by and I get an email from PayPal saying the transaction is being disputed by the finance company. I get asked to present evidence that I sent the goods, to which I attached the various emails with the code on etc. etc.

Anyhow, PayPal take 28 days with no further communication to me except today. I get told that they are reversing the transaction so I'm now out of pocket by £30...and on top of that they are going to charge ME a further £14 because there has been a chargeback,

So someone fraudulently buys my item, I lose out on both the item value but then another £14 on top.

I mean WTF!!!!!!

philv

5,395 posts

244 months

Sunday 20th November 2016
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Never sell anything of value on ebay unless cash on collection.

Magic919

14,561 posts

231 months

Sunday 20th November 2016
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Why do people call it flea bay?

glenrobbo

40,514 posts

180 months

Sunday 20th November 2016
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Magic919 said:
Why do people call it flea bay?
Because it's full of bloodsucking parasites???

Floptimus Prime

8,998 posts

217 months

Sunday 20th November 2016
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I asked on here in the gaming section the very same question regarding where to sell a an Xbox game download code.

Was told not to trust eBay and use facebook selling pages which I did.

I did some research and there's 100's of people being scammed because emailing the code gives you zero comeback.
You must post it recorded delivery I found out.

singlecoil

35,834 posts

276 months

Sunday 20th November 2016
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glenrobbo said:
Magic919 said:
Why do people call it flea bay?
Because it's full of bloodsucking parasites???
Or maybe they are just a little bit unoriginal and/or trying to be hip.

They would probably refer to Halfords as Halfrauds too.

Mercury00

4,251 posts

186 months

Sunday 20th November 2016
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This exact thing happened to me last month. PayPal are now threatening me with bailiffs, and to top it all off eBay charged me selling fees in addition to me losing the item and money. Obviously I have the buyer's details - full name, address, phone number, plus photographs from Facebook. My best idea is to put up a few flyers in his local area saying "this man is a sex offender", and let the locals do the rest.

stanthebiker

539 posts

215 months

Sunday 20th November 2016
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Mercury00 said:
This exact thing happened to me last month. PayPal are now threatening me with bailiffs, and to top it all off eBay charged me selling fees in addition to me losing the item and money. Obviously I have the buyer's details - full name, address, phone number, plus photographs from Facebook. My best idea is to put up a few flyers in his local area saying "this man is a sex offender", and let the locals do the rest.
Seems reasonable!

sc0tt

18,296 posts

231 months

Sunday 20th November 2016
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Do you mean ebay?

vikingaero

13,451 posts

199 months

Sunday 20th November 2016
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Mercury00 said:
This exact thing happened to me last month. PayPal are now threatening me with bailiffs, and to top it all off eBay charged me selling fees in addition to me losing the item and money. Obviously I have the buyer's details - full name, address, phone number, plus photographs from Facebook. My best idea is to put up a few flyers in his local area saying "this man is a sex offender", and let the locals do the rest.
Let's be clear. Ebay and any debt collectors have no powers whatsoever. Transcom will attempt to call you repeatedly, send you letters and threaten visits. 99% of the time they will never call in person as this is too expensive. Write them one cease and desist letter under The Protection From Harassment Act and withdraw any implied right to call your telephones (PM me if you need a template). They will still waste money on letters.

Only once they issue County Court Summons will you need to worry, and they would have to obtain judgement.

There are arguments going on that eBay are complicit in allowing these scams to occur. If you want revenge then make a complaint to eBay, exhaust the Complaints procedure and then make a final complaint to the Financial Ombudsman Service. It's very unlikely you will win but it will cost eBay the thick end of £600 whether your complaint is upheld or not.

Finally, one of the best way to get revenge is if you have the persons name, address and contact numbers. Google PPI callback and fill in thei details with multiple companies. Google is your friend. Find who the person works for. Sometimes it's very easy. If it's a local company and you are a powerfully built company director then withdraw work or charge them more.

northwest monkey

6,370 posts

219 months

Sunday 20th November 2016
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vikingaero said:
Let's be clear. Ebay and any debt collectors have no powers whatsoever.
There you go OP - this chap is saying he'll guarantee you'll get no bother & if you do he'll pay.

Paddymcc

1,307 posts

221 months

Sunday 20th November 2016
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Why did you not follow the rules?

if you had Mailed the code to the buyers address using a trackable delivery service then you wouldn't be out of pocket.

Mercury00

4,251 posts

186 months

Monday 21st November 2016
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Paddymcc said:
Why did you not follow the rules?
if you had Mailed the code to the buyers address using a trackable delivery service then you wouldn't be out of pocket.
I did send it via signed for delivery, I gave the record of the buyer's signature and name given. I still lost the case.

BigLion

Original Poster:

1,497 posts

129 months

Monday 21st November 2016
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Mercury00 said:
Paddymcc said:
Why did you not follow the rules?
if you had Mailed the code to the buyers address using a trackable delivery service then you wouldn't be out of pocket.
I did send it via signed for delivery, I gave the record of the buyer's signature and name given. I still lost the case.
Whole thing is a con...live and learn

vikingaero

13,451 posts

199 months

Monday 21st November 2016
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northwest monkey said:
There you go OP - this chap is saying he'll guarantee you'll get no bother & if you do he'll pay.
Very selective quoting. You should be a politician. biggrin

I did qualify by saying "Only once they issue County Court Summons will you need to worry, and they would have to obtain judgement."

Gareth79

9,108 posts

276 months

Monday 21st November 2016
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vikingaero said:
Only once they issue County Court Summons will you need to worry, and they would have to obtain judgement.
I have heard quite a few instances of them suing over the years. I think these days they tend to just issue a "lifetime" ban on using their services (very effectively policed).


soad

34,701 posts

206 months

Thursday 1st December 2016
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sc0tt said:
Do you mean ebay?
Online flea-market: http://fleabay.net/