The homeless - a sudden increase?
The homeless - a sudden increase?
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Baz Tench

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5,648 posts

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Tuesday 24th January 2017
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Over the last year or so, I've been back and forth to Birmingham on the train, and have noticed a sudden increase of people sleeping rough in shop doorways near New Street station. It's also happening in my home town too, where there wasn't really a (visible) problem with this at all before.

One of the people who until recently used to lie in an underpass near my local town centre is known to be a fake. Apparently he has a flat in the town but makes out he's homeless to get money for alcohol (yes, I know).

My problem is, I don't mind giving someone a bit of cash if they are genuine, but sometimes it's very hard to tell, and some of the fakes do make a lot of money out of it.

Does anyone else feel guilty in case they maybe got it wrong with some of them?

David87

7,033 posts

242 months

Tuesday 24th January 2017
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Brexit, probably. Or maybe Trump.

untakenname

5,365 posts

222 months

Tuesday 24th January 2017
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Noticed quite a few literally sleeping on the main street by waterloo station, thought the Police would move them onto somewhere more discreet as they are a trip hazard in rush hour.

anonymous-user

84 months

Tuesday 24th January 2017
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David87 said:
Brexit, probably. Or maybe Trump.
And the Yen/Sterling is also terrible at the moment.

si_xsi

1,322 posts

225 months

Tuesday 24th January 2017
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I manage commercial property for a living and we have noticed an increase too, as you say in shop fronts , underground car parks etc. In Oxford this is partly due to several hostels closing because of government funding cuts.

Baz Tench

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Tuesday 24th January 2017
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si_xsi said:
I manage commercial property for a living and we have noticed an increase too, as you say in shop fronts , underground car parks etc. In Oxford this is partly due to several hostels closing because of government funding cuts.
I saw something on the news recently on this subject, and one bloke in a shop doorway said that he chose it because of the cctv for his own protection. The more public, the better the cctv I suppose. But then there is the footfall, which makes me a bit suspicious of some of them, rightly or wrongly.

anonymous-user

84 months

Tuesday 24th January 2017
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I worked in social housing for 8 years or so, and some of the other housing officers I worked with (usually the ladies) would not hesitate to stop and try to 'help' someone begging for change or rough sleeping.

By help, I mean start asking them which hostels they have contacted for a room, before proceeding to offer to phone a few places to get them a bed for the night.

The usual response from them was 'fk off and leave me alone', which the housing officer knew would be the likely outcome.

Generally, a lot of the rough sleepers refuse to go in hostels or other homeless accommodation because they won't allow drink, drugs or unruly behaviour.

Rayy

131 posts

171 months

Tuesday 24th January 2017
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Definitely more in the city centre here in Leeds, compared to last winter. I sometimes bring one of them a takeaway tea. Can't be much fun squatting on freezing pavement.

meehaja

607 posts

138 months

Tuesday 24th January 2017
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Hostels closing, emergency support has been cut, wider cuts to services for mental health, substance misuse, abuse etc.

Also, rentals more expensive, more adults living at home and then falling out with family, lots leaving the forces (a high number of homeless are ex forces).

Homelessness has always been there, its just well hidden, now the hiding places are being shut theyre are becoming mroe obvious!

Baz Tench

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Tuesday 24th January 2017
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meehaja said:
Hostels closing, emergency support has been cut, wider cuts to services for mental health, substance misuse, abuse etc.

Also, rentals more expensive, more adults living at home and then falling out with family, lots leaving the forces (a high number of homeless are ex forces).

Homelessness has always been there, its just well hidden, now the hiding places are being shut theyre are becoming mroe obvious!
Interesting post, and the cuts were mentioned by a previous poster.

I think it's easy pickings for the frauds though, which is a real shame for those genuinely in trouble. Who knows what they have been through?!