Perspective - and thanks to our emergency services
Discussion
Not sure how many of you follow Rugby League, and the story of Danny Jones.
Danny sadly passed away a couple of years ago from an undiagnosed heart condition during a game. He was 26 years old. Since Danny passed away his wife Lizzie has showed herself to be the most amazing woman and raised huge amounts of money to provide defibs into community sports clubs and try to reduce the risk of such a tragedy occurring again.
Around 18 months ago a good friend of mine collapsed after a game as he walked off the pitch. He sadly passed away at 42 years old
Yesterday, the same team were playing(as de ja vu goes that's not a place you want to be) when one of the opposition collapsed around 15 minutes into the game. Unfortunately it soon became apparent that the situation was serious and the defib on-site at the club had to be deployed (fortunately there were some nurses in attendance who worked on him until the defib was brought). They were able to get him back before emergency services arrived and he was then taken by air ambulance for further treatment. Ambulance staff confirmed at the scene that the defib probably saved his life.
Obviously very upsetting for the guys who were present when this happened before, but the one small mercy has to be that the loss of our friends in the past has led to the ability for this gentleman to be saved. Current status in ICU having had stents fitted but stable.
We all have our issues with the NHS but I suppose this has just reiterated how lucky we are to have the front line staff that we do to pick up the pieces.
This has motivated to me to get back into training properly. Time for some fundraising! I have signed up for the Yorkshire marathon in October and a few of us are talking about riding the Leeds-Liverpool canal in the summer as well
Danny sadly passed away a couple of years ago from an undiagnosed heart condition during a game. He was 26 years old. Since Danny passed away his wife Lizzie has showed herself to be the most amazing woman and raised huge amounts of money to provide defibs into community sports clubs and try to reduce the risk of such a tragedy occurring again.
Around 18 months ago a good friend of mine collapsed after a game as he walked off the pitch. He sadly passed away at 42 years old
Yesterday, the same team were playing(as de ja vu goes that's not a place you want to be) when one of the opposition collapsed around 15 minutes into the game. Unfortunately it soon became apparent that the situation was serious and the defib on-site at the club had to be deployed (fortunately there were some nurses in attendance who worked on him until the defib was brought). They were able to get him back before emergency services arrived and he was then taken by air ambulance for further treatment. Ambulance staff confirmed at the scene that the defib probably saved his life.
Obviously very upsetting for the guys who were present when this happened before, but the one small mercy has to be that the loss of our friends in the past has led to the ability for this gentleman to be saved. Current status in ICU having had stents fitted but stable.
We all have our issues with the NHS but I suppose this has just reiterated how lucky we are to have the front line staff that we do to pick up the pieces.
This has motivated to me to get back into training properly. Time for some fundraising! I have signed up for the Yorkshire marathon in October and a few of us are talking about riding the Leeds-Liverpool canal in the summer as well
Blimey, that's a horrendous run of luck, but glad to hear that it's been ended.
De-fibs are a great bit of kit, well worth finding out where they are in your local town. Doctor's surgeries, most pharmacies and Tesco's have them. A defib and early intervention CPR really can make a heck of a difference. I'm still of the opinion that kids should be taught first aid as part of the curriculum at school as I believe that would make a massive difference.
De-fibs are a great bit of kit, well worth finding out where they are in your local town. Doctor's surgeries, most pharmacies and Tesco's have them. A defib and early intervention CPR really can make a heck of a difference. I'm still of the opinion that kids should be taught first aid as part of the curriculum at school as I believe that would make a massive difference.
MrsVX actually does teach first aid in schools, and the school I work in regularly has people in.
Great to read some good stuff about our emergency services. We seem to only hear the bad stuff, but having been out for observation shifts with ambulance crews I know they do a very good job under some appalling conditions.
Great to read some good stuff about our emergency services. We seem to only hear the bad stuff, but having been out for observation shifts with ambulance crews I know they do a very good job under some appalling conditions.
vx220 said:
MrsVX actually does teach first aid in schools, and the school I work in regularly has people in.
Great to read some good stuff about our emergency services. We seem to only hear the bad stuff, but having been out for observation shifts with ambulance crews I know they do a very good job under some appalling conditions.
Actually, PH should be a little bit ashamed. If this thread had been a negative one we'd have all jumped on with our own experiences and it would be three pages long, instead of only three replies (in twelve hours!)Great to read some good stuff about our emergency services. We seem to only hear the bad stuff, but having been out for observation shifts with ambulance crews I know they do a very good job under some appalling conditions.
I have to say, our emergency and critical care is exceptional in this country.
It's just over 6 years since I had a pretty significant 'cardiac event' - an almost complete blockage of my left anterior descending.
We had a paramedic with us within 2-3 minutes of my wife making the call. I had a 'rescue' angioplasty and stent at 3am-ish.
Spent 2 days in critical care and a week on a cardio card, with a 2nd stent operation before I went home.
We are very lucky to live in a country where this is free at the point of use and doesn't cost us hundreds a month in premiums.
It's just over 6 years since I had a pretty significant 'cardiac event' - an almost complete blockage of my left anterior descending.
We had a paramedic with us within 2-3 minutes of my wife making the call. I had a 'rescue' angioplasty and stent at 3am-ish.
Spent 2 days in critical care and a week on a cardio card, with a 2nd stent operation before I went home.
We are very lucky to live in a country where this is free at the point of use and doesn't cost us hundreds a month in premiums.
vx220 said:
vx220 said:
MrsVX actually does teach first aid in schools, and the school I work in regularly has people in.
Great to read some good stuff about our emergency services. We seem to only hear the bad stuff, but having been out for observation shifts with ambulance crews I know they do a very good job under some appalling conditions.
Actually, PH should be a little bit ashamed. If this thread had been a negative one we'd have all jumped on with our own experiences and it would be three pages long, instead of only three replies (in twelve hours!)Great to read some good stuff about our emergency services. We seem to only hear the bad stuff, but having been out for observation shifts with ambulance crews I know they do a very good job under some appalling conditions.
And you're right, we're all too ready to criticise these days rather than giving recognition where it's due. I've spent a lot of time with paramedics and spent time in hospitals and it's incredible and often genuinely heartbreaking watching them work.
vx220 said:
vx220 said:
MrsVX actually does teach first aid in schools, and the school I work in regularly has people in.
Great to read some good stuff about our emergency services. We seem to only hear the bad stuff, but having been out for observation shifts with ambulance crews I know they do a very good job under some appalling conditions.
Actually, PH should be a little bit ashamed. If this thread had been a negative one we'd have all jumped on with our own experiences and it would be three pages long, instead of only three replies (in twelve hours!)Great to read some good stuff about our emergency services. We seem to only hear the bad stuff, but having been out for observation shifts with ambulance crews I know they do a very good job under some appalling conditions.
This is sobering stuff OP. Hope the guy makes a full recovery.
I'd be interesting to see some stats on the usage of those defibs, they must have saved a fair few lives by now.
We had a chap collapse and die at our local Parkrun a couple of years back, an appeal to get a defib for the park afterwards raised the money pretty quickly. Fortunately we've not have to use it yet but it's nice know it's there. Shame we didn't have it earlier. I had a quick training session on it, it's amazing how simple they are to use, you literally follow the pictorial instructions to stick the pads on and it does the rest.
We had a chap collapse and die at our local Parkrun a couple of years back, an appeal to get a defib for the park afterwards raised the money pretty quickly. Fortunately we've not have to use it yet but it's nice know it's there. Shame we didn't have it earlier. I had a quick training session on it, it's amazing how simple they are to use, you literally follow the pictorial instructions to stick the pads on and it does the rest.
Nanook said:
Good story.
First Aid really should be something we're all taught these days. I've looked into doing a course, but it's a few days unpaid form work, and a few hundred pounds to do it. Why is the government not funding this for those that want to do it? It benefits everyone.
Maybe try your local ambulance service? First Aid really should be something we're all taught these days. I've looked into doing a course, but it's a few days unpaid form work, and a few hundred pounds to do it. Why is the government not funding this for those that want to do it? It benefits everyone.
Nanook said:
First Aid really should be something we're all taught these days. I've looked into doing a course, but it's a few days unpaid form work, and a few hundred pounds to do it.
Can you get your work to pay it? One of our first aiders left recently so the company needed to get another trained up, unfortunately I was too slow replying so missed on them sending me on a 2 day First Aid at Work course.Nanook said:
it seems like it would be a good investment to teach the general public, that wanted to learn, basic first aid.
It's a fair point. Clubs can be a good way get a bit of basic first aid training, used to do pretty regular first aid training when I was a member of a dive club and a jui jitsu club, and the motorbike club I'm with arrange some "first on scene" courses which sound a really good idea. The problem is, with the vast majority of people they shy away from first aid because they assume it leaves them wide open to a) acting decisively about something they didn't plan and b) taking a bit of responsibility, neither of which the average middle class Middle Englander is any good at.
Ive been lucky enough to experience the Ambulance service first hand, leading to the local general hospital and then the local burns hospital.
The Ambulance staff were incredible, the staff in the burns hospital were little short of angles.
Ive also had to assist a mate who had some issues-over in Dubai- where his arrival in hospital was greeted with little more than "is he insured......who with.....have you got details" whilst still in a bad way in the back of the Ambulance.
Whilst im sure the NHS is far from perfect, when needed,casualty, ambulances and the first contact you have with a specialist were utterly fantastic.
The Ambulance staff were incredible, the staff in the burns hospital were little short of angles.
Ive also had to assist a mate who had some issues-over in Dubai- where his arrival in hospital was greeted with little more than "is he insured......who with.....have you got details" whilst still in a bad way in the back of the Ambulance.
Whilst im sure the NHS is far from perfect, when needed,casualty, ambulances and the first contact you have with a specialist were utterly fantastic.
Nanook said:
Dusty964 said:
Ive been lucky enough to experience the Ambulance service first hand, leading to the local general hospital and then the local burns hospital.
The Ambulance staff were incredible, the staff in the burns hospital were little short of angles.
Ive also had to assist a mate who had some issues-over in Dubai- where his arrival in hospital was greeted with little more than "is he insured......who with.....have you got details" whilst still in a bad way in the back of the Ambulance.
Whilst im sure the NHS is far from perfect, when needed,casualty, ambulances and the first contact you have with a specialist were utterly fantastic.
Were your burns acute?The Ambulance staff were incredible, the staff in the burns hospital were little short of angles.
Ive also had to assist a mate who had some issues-over in Dubai- where his arrival in hospital was greeted with little more than "is he insured......who with.....have you got details" whilst still in a bad way in the back of the Ambulance.
Whilst im sure the NHS is far from perfect, when needed,casualty, ambulances and the first contact you have with a specialist were utterly fantastic.
Nanook said:
Dusty964 said:
Ive been lucky enough to experience the Ambulance service first hand, leading to the local general hospital and then the local burns hospital.
The Ambulance staff were incredible, the staff in the burns hospital were little short of angles.
Ive also had to assist a mate who had some issues-over in Dubai- where his arrival in hospital was greeted with little more than "is he insured......who with.....have you got details" whilst still in a bad way in the back of the Ambulance.
Whilst im sure the NHS is far from perfect, when needed,casualty, ambulances and the first contact you have with a specialist were utterly fantastic.
Were your burns acute?The Ambulance staff were incredible, the staff in the burns hospital were little short of angles.
Ive also had to assist a mate who had some issues-over in Dubai- where his arrival in hospital was greeted with little more than "is he insured......who with.....have you got details" whilst still in a bad way in the back of the Ambulance.
Whilst im sure the NHS is far from perfect, when needed,casualty, ambulances and the first contact you have with a specialist were utterly fantastic.
Dusty964 said:
Nanook said:
Dusty964 said:
Ive been lucky enough to experience the Ambulance service first hand, leading to the local general hospital and then the local burns hospital.
The Ambulance staff were incredible, the staff in the burns hospital were little short of angles.
Ive also had to assist a mate who had some issues-over in Dubai- where his arrival in hospital was greeted with little more than "is he insured......who with.....have you got details" whilst still in a bad way in the back of the Ambulance.
Whilst im sure the NHS is far from perfect, when needed,casualty, ambulances and the first contact you have with a specialist were utterly fantastic.
Were your burns acute?The Ambulance staff were incredible, the staff in the burns hospital were little short of angles.
Ive also had to assist a mate who had some issues-over in Dubai- where his arrival in hospital was greeted with little more than "is he insured......who with.....have you got details" whilst still in a bad way in the back of the Ambulance.
Whilst im sure the NHS is far from perfect, when needed,casualty, ambulances and the first contact you have with a specialist were utterly fantastic.
I've had first hand experience this year of an ambulance and A&E. The staff were brilliant right through until I got out.
It's also worth pointing out that a lot of schools have defibrillators on site.
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