Is it coz I iz black.................
Is it coz I iz black.................
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rambo19

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2,963 posts

167 months

Tuesday 18th July 2017
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Had a incident at work today.
100 % not my fault with several witnesses.

The other party was black, and came out with the standard line, 'is it because I am black'.
Now, this line really boils my p*ss!!

Why do black people come out with it? Any of our black members on here enlighten me on why black people seem to use it all the time?

Unbusy

934 posts

127 months

Wednesday 19th July 2017
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Was he serious or could it have been in Ali G stylee?

Joratk

432 posts

140 months

Wednesday 19th July 2017
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Need more context.

Du1point8

22,932 posts

222 months

Wednesday 19th July 2017
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Had this with an OHs friend (now ex) who is half cast (white mother)...

She was having issues with an agent she was renting off, so I was roped in to help her and if my lawyer mates could help I would ask them too, I asked her not to do anything foolish and run all answers to emails past me.

She was caught out on a clause of the rental agreement, bang to rights and she hadn't told me this, I explained to her that the agent is correct in their understanding and she had signed a document without reading it all.

She then went quiet for a week and I got a message that she would like to bring the big guns in as she was basically being evicted, so now wanted to borrow my mates... I ask her how she was being evicted as the issue was that it would cost her an extra 500 GBP or something for ignoring a no pets clause.

She had gone in 2 footed and did the racist card and why is it that because she is black (only when it suits her) that they are treating her different, she started threatening the agency with lawyers, etc... Said agency were mightily pissed off and stated that they had in no way been racist and in fact the person she was dealing with (she had never met him) was originally from Africa, said its people like her that bring a bad name to people like him (skin colour) being stereo typed for always wanting to use the race card.

I told her in no way shape or form will any of my mates touch a case where the individual concerned has hidden behind the race card, then be called out on it, then decided to use the threat of lawyers to try and defend themselves... All the time being in the wrong.

I mediated a face to face apology to them, plus upfront payment + stupid tax as a thank you for not dragging her through the courts for all of the above.

She was not a friend after that episode.

Cold

16,728 posts

120 months

Wednesday 19th July 2017
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Du1point8 said:
Had this with an OHs friend (now ex) who is half cast (white mother)...
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You're showing your age there. Mixed race is the acceptable colloquialism nowadays - for the UK at least.

TwistingMyMelon

6,516 posts

235 months

Wednesday 19th July 2017
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rambo19 said:
Had a incident at work today.
100 % not my fault with several witnesses.

The other party was black, and came out with the standard line, 'is it because I am black'.
Now, this line really boils my p*ss!!

Why do black people come out with it? Any of our black members on here enlighten me on why black people seem to use it all the time?
LOL you hoping to find a black person who can be a spokesperson for every black person?

Maybe you said something racist, maybe passively aggressively, maybe ignorantly, or perhaps they were just an idiot who was playing the race card.

RE above half caste has rasist connotations, mixed race is more appropriate, no doubt people just think "WELL IT WAS FINE IN MY DAY" or "ITS POLITICAL CORRECTNESS GONE MAD" but the term to me is a bit derogatory

Dazed and Confused

979 posts

112 months

Wednesday 19th July 2017
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It's a joke. Don't read too much into it. I'm sure Lewis Hamilton has used the same line.

Lance Catamaran

26,113 posts

257 months

Wednesday 19th July 2017
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You aren't allowed to say "black" anymore by the way, it's "person of colour".

romeogolf

2,112 posts

149 months

Wednesday 19th July 2017
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rambo19 said:
Had a incident at work today.
100 % not my fault with several witnesses.

The other party was black, and came out with the standard line, 'is it because I am black'.
Now, this line really boils my p*ss!!

Why do black people come out with it? Any of our black members on here enlighten me on why black people seem to use it all the time?
Without knowing the situation no one will be able to give specifics, but because either

(a) Racism very much exists and it might not be a huge leap of the imagination to think that whatever perceived wrong or injustice they have suffered was a result of or contributed to by their race.

(b) As above, but using it to their advantage to pressure you into an apology or redaction.

Of course the first is entirely reasonable, even if a misunderstanding. The second is dishonest and doesn't help anyone, but I wouldn't say lying or exaggerating is exclusively a race thing. Compare it to the excuses people give for speeding ("I need to get to the hospital!") or not buying a parking ticket ("It was just five minutes!").


Goaty Bill 2

3,595 posts

149 months

Wednesday 19th July 2017
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Lance Catamaran said:
You aren't allowed to say "black" anymore by the way, it's "person of colour".
Someone best quickly tell my black friends that.

They might not take it so well if whitey (me) tells them they've been incorrectly referring to themselves as 'black' (on the very odd occasion that it's been necessary to make any reference at all to skin colour or race).
It would also be really great if someone could tell them it is apparently impolite to laugh when they are referred to as a 'person of colour'.

TwistingMyMelon said:
LOL you hoping to find a black person who can be a spokesperson for every black person?
Ahh, there we go.
The nail has been accurately struck in the location specified by the design.

No one speaks for everyone of their 'class', group, race, gender, sexual preference. Absolutely no one.
Anyone who claims to do so is very likely an idiot, a power grabber or just a trouble maker.

Disclaimer - I can of course only speak for the attitudes and actions displayed by my personal group of acquaintances. Your experience may be different


Edited by Goaty Bill 2 on Wednesday 19th July 09:19

Mr-B

5,101 posts

224 months

Wednesday 19th July 2017
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Has any white person ever used the "Is it because I'm white?" race card, just curious.

Puggit

49,820 posts

278 months

Wednesday 19th July 2017
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Mr-B said:
Has any white person ever used the "Is it because I'm white?" race card, just curious.
I know of a white woman who used the "Is it because I'm black?" card rofl

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/white-woma...

RTB

8,273 posts

288 months

Wednesday 19th July 2017
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Here's a little exchange that I heard a while back in our office whilst waiting for the lift.

Visitor: "Hi, I'm here to see Paul xxxxx about xxxxxx"

Employee: "sorry I'm not sure who Paul is could you point him out to me and I'll go and get him"

Visitor: [looks out over open plan office from the balcony and spots Paul (the only black guy in the office)] "erm he's they guy over there, the err the guy in the ermmmm blue shirt......"

smile

Most people are terrified of doing or saying anything that could in any way be construed as racist (whilst ignoring the fact that the real issue is him being the only black guy in the office).


anonymous-user

84 months

Wednesday 19th July 2017
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Just wait til you bump into a "Diversity officer" whose sole qualification is being offended on other peoples behalf.






Countdown

49,519 posts

226 months

Wednesday 19th July 2017
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Mr-B said:
Has any white person ever used the "Is it because I'm white?" race card, just curious.
I saw a documentary about it once....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-UNcnMo8fo

MorganP104

2,605 posts

160 months

Wednesday 19th July 2017
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I had cause to call down to reception in the office recently, to see if a colleague was there.

The receptionist (who didn't know my colleague), asked me to describe her.

I said "She's a tall black woman with corn rows".

Sure enough, my colleague was identified in short order, and spoke to me on the phone.

If I'd have described what she was wearing to the receptionist, we'd have been there all day! laugh

xjay1337

15,966 posts

148 months

Wednesday 19th July 2017
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I'm not racist, I have black friends!!

NoIP

559 posts

114 months

Wednesday 19th July 2017
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Lance Catamaran said:
You aren't allowed to say "black" anymore by the way, it's "person of colour".
Not sure if serious.

I've just relayed this to Dave, the (Afro Caribbean) black guy and friend who I share a house with for work and is currently sat across the room. After much laughing he's said "don't EVER call me or any other black person "coloured" or a "person of colour" as it probably won't end well for you! We are not COLOURED, we are BLACK! You can even call me "n***er" - it's fine, we are not offended by it but DO NOT use "coloured" - it's such a nonsense word. YOU are a "person of colour" as you have pink skin but I don't call you "coloured" do I? You are a WHITE GUY, I am a BLACK GUY, there is nothing offensive about that yeah, you know what I'm saying?"

laugh I'd say that's fairly conclusive then. As a side note, him and his black friends spend all their time calling each other "n***er".

Puggit

49,820 posts

278 months

Wednesday 19th July 2017
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NoIP said:
laugh I'd say that's fairly conclusive then. As a side note, him and his black friends spend all their time calling each other "n***er".
Puggit Jnr (aged 10, year 6 at primary school) watched a movie on Friday night at school (all 15 members of year 6 had a sleep over!). The movie was a 12 and featured various swearwords from sh.. to M-F and one n***er. The n-word is what really shocked him. So we had the discussion about what it really meant and why black people say it to each other. Wasn't an easy conversation!

hman

7,497 posts

224 months

Wednesday 19th July 2017
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NoIP said:
Lance Catamaran said:
You aren't allowed to say "black" anymore by the way, it's "person of colour".
Not sure if serious.

I've just relayed this to Dave, the (Afro Caribbean) black guy and friend who I share a house with for work and is currently sat across the room. After much laughing he's said "don't EVER call me or any other black person "coloured" or a "person of colour" as it probably won't end well for you! We are not COLOURED, we are BLACK! You can even call me "n***er" - it's fine, we are not offended by it but DO NOT use "coloured" - it's such a nonsense word. YOU are a "person of colour" as you have pink skin but I don't call you "coloured" do I? You are a WHITE GUY, I am a BLACK GUY, there is nothing offensive about that yeah, you know what I'm saying?"

laugh I'd say that's fairly conclusive then. As a side note, him and his black friends spend all their time calling each other "n***er".
Yeah - good luck with calling anyone the n-word and not getting a tonne of stick for it.

He may not care - but most people do.