Discussion
Do you ever wear one ?
I am going to a funeral tomorrow and will wear one but the last time was a funeral, just dont wear them any more, very few at work do nowadays, only one I can think of.
They can look good but every day, no thanks, special occasions and if I want to.
Used to wear one every single day and hated it, worked at Greater Manchester Police and it was obligatory, even for us "Civilians", unless the temperature as displayed on the thermometer in the office went above a certain value, think it was like 85F, so pretty warm, then the manager would come round and tell us that "Gentlemen may remove their ties". Not sure if it was his policy or GMP policy, but he was a bell end who would send you home to get a tie if you forgot it, he was fixated on ties but for him, a normal tie was not enough, he had to rise above us normal tie wearers with a bow tie despite not being in an evening suit, which, to me at 20 or so was conclusive proof that he was an utter rocket of biblical proportions and poisoned me against neckwear.
Anyway, GMP was in a transitional state between the Gene Hunt, racist, sexist, institutionally racist (though I dont think that bit was 100 percent true) into the super, touchy feely, all inclusive, diverse, pride supporting, equal organisation it is now, and one chap in the office was too hot one day and took his tie off without permission, people were aghast and told him to put it back on before the bellend arrived and unpleasant scenes ensued, he didnt and he arrived and asked why he was sans tie, it was pointed out that ladies didnt have to wear a tie and in an organisation trying to achieve equality this was wrong, he got shouted at, the bow tie didnt spin but it should have, it turned into a bigger issue and this chap was apoplectic about the whole thing but apparently equality only worked one way in his head, but he got told that he could not enforce men wearing ties if women werent.
Anyway, cool story etc, but do you wear one ?
They are bad for your health, a lad I know was having cluster headaches really badly, long story short they were only when in work, when he was off he didnt suffer, he thought it was stress related and thought he may need medication, but when he went to the docs she said "That tie, is it as tight as it looks", anyway, she said to not wear a tie for a week whilst at work, and no more headaches, the numpty had been tying the tie so tight he was cutting off the blood to his brain
I am going to a funeral tomorrow and will wear one but the last time was a funeral, just dont wear them any more, very few at work do nowadays, only one I can think of.
They can look good but every day, no thanks, special occasions and if I want to.
Used to wear one every single day and hated it, worked at Greater Manchester Police and it was obligatory, even for us "Civilians", unless the temperature as displayed on the thermometer in the office went above a certain value, think it was like 85F, so pretty warm, then the manager would come round and tell us that "Gentlemen may remove their ties". Not sure if it was his policy or GMP policy, but he was a bell end who would send you home to get a tie if you forgot it, he was fixated on ties but for him, a normal tie was not enough, he had to rise above us normal tie wearers with a bow tie despite not being in an evening suit, which, to me at 20 or so was conclusive proof that he was an utter rocket of biblical proportions and poisoned me against neckwear.
Anyway, GMP was in a transitional state between the Gene Hunt, racist, sexist, institutionally racist (though I dont think that bit was 100 percent true) into the super, touchy feely, all inclusive, diverse, pride supporting, equal organisation it is now, and one chap in the office was too hot one day and took his tie off without permission, people were aghast and told him to put it back on before the bellend arrived and unpleasant scenes ensued, he didnt and he arrived and asked why he was sans tie, it was pointed out that ladies didnt have to wear a tie and in an organisation trying to achieve equality this was wrong, he got shouted at, the bow tie didnt spin but it should have, it turned into a bigger issue and this chap was apoplectic about the whole thing but apparently equality only worked one way in his head, but he got told that he could not enforce men wearing ties if women werent.
Anyway, cool story etc, but do you wear one ?
They are bad for your health, a lad I know was having cluster headaches really badly, long story short they were only when in work, when he was off he didnt suffer, he thought it was stress related and thought he may need medication, but when he went to the docs she said "That tie, is it as tight as it looks", anyway, she said to not wear a tie for a week whilst at work, and no more headaches, the numpty had been tying the tie so tight he was cutting off the blood to his brain
Ahh you missed the good old days of jumpers made out of wire wool, trousers that were made out of a slightly finer wire wool and blousons that made you sweat so much you would have been better not bothering and just get wet in the rain. And of course tit hats. At least the tie was clip on 
I wear a tie every day for work. My current collection numbers around 60, various fabric types (silk, wool, linen).
I enjoy wearing a tie (but then again, I wear a blazer and pocket square to work as well). I'm quite picky over tie knots too.
I enjoy wearing a tie (but then again, I wear a blazer and pocket square to work as well). I'm quite picky over tie knots too.
bearman68 said:
Never trust a man in a tie. Always worked for me. (Always may be a bit strong, but it's a good indication IMO)
Luckily still #1 on the trustworthy list.I'm an engineer, I work in an office in front of a computer, not customer facing, jeans and T-shirt every day. You rarely ever even see our CEO wearing one.
I will put one on for formal occasions i.e. weddings, funerals, etc. and would certainly go suited and booted to a job interview although even that seems to be less formal than it once was.
When I first started at work I wanted to appear professional so used to arrive every day in trousers, shirt and tie, back then (mid 90's) it was probably about 50/50 in the workplace as to who turned up smartly dressed and who didn't. Now days nobody wears a tie, some are a bit more formal in trousers / shirts but most of us are in casual wear.
I will put one on for formal occasions i.e. weddings, funerals, etc. and would certainly go suited and booted to a job interview although even that seems to be less formal than it once was.
When I first started at work I wanted to appear professional so used to arrive every day in trousers, shirt and tie, back then (mid 90's) it was probably about 50/50 in the workplace as to who turned up smartly dressed and who didn't. Now days nobody wears a tie, some are a bit more formal in trousers / shirts but most of us are in casual wear.
Sadly I have to wear a tie every weekend for football, as The FA instruct us referees that it is obligatory to turn up to matches in suit and tie. Something to do with club boardrooms having a compulsory tie policy.
I don't even want to go in the boardroom, having been called a
for 90 minutes I just want to go home afterwards.
Anyway, I digress, ties are out of place and old-fashioned even in City corporate offices these days. I'd wear one to a funeral and that's it.
I don't even want to go in the boardroom, having been called a
for 90 minutes I just want to go home afterwards.Anyway, I digress, ties are out of place and old-fashioned even in City corporate offices these days. I'd wear one to a funeral and that's it.
Jefferson Steelflex said:
Sadly I have to wear a tie every weekend for football, as The FA instruct us referees that it is obligatory to turn up to matches in suit and tie. Something to do with club boardrooms having a compulsory tie policy.
I don't even want to go in the boardroom, having been called a for 90 minutes I just want to go home afterwards.
Anyway, I digress, ties are out of place and old-fashioned even in City corporate offices these days. I'd wear one to a funeral and that's it.
That sounds like you don't enjoy the refereeing. I umpire for field hockey, and the players attitude seems to be very different. (Mind you we don't get 100's of supporters). I really enjoy it,and it's very rare that I'm not invited back for food and beer after the game - and I'm usually happy to go.I don't even want to go in the boardroom, having been called a
for 90 minutes I just want to go home afterwards.Anyway, I digress, ties are out of place and old-fashioned even in City corporate offices these days. I'd wear one to a funeral and that's it.
I quite like ties, i think the right kind (colour, size, knot) can make a big difference to what you wear for work. Of course the location you work in dictates whether it's "normal" or not.
Work wise i used to always wear one when i worked in Canary Wharf, i would have looked strange without one and i've seen a people get a dressing down by one of the old Managing Directors for having the wrong kind of knot/ width of tie, never mind not wearing a tie. Of course this would never result in a disciplinary but with some of the old boys appearance matters massively (i'm sure everyone's heard of individuals not being offered jobs in the City because they wore brown shoes to the interview).
Thankfully this kind of attitude is dying out and even the American banks are starting to relax to say that you only really need to wear a tie if you're facing off to clients that day. I now only wear a tie once a week on average when i head to meetings with a client but i still like to have some nice ties.
I never quite understood the concept of wearing a skinny tie (like the indie outfits of the early 2000s) out into clubs and bars.
N.B how on earth you can wear a tie so tight that it gives you headaches but not put 2 and 2 together of the cause of the headache is beyond me! I'm thinking he may have also had a shirt with a collar size too small for him, i know i've had the odd shirt which made me feel like my head would explode if i buttoned it all the way up.
Work wise i used to always wear one when i worked in Canary Wharf, i would have looked strange without one and i've seen a people get a dressing down by one of the old Managing Directors for having the wrong kind of knot/ width of tie, never mind not wearing a tie. Of course this would never result in a disciplinary but with some of the old boys appearance matters massively (i'm sure everyone's heard of individuals not being offered jobs in the City because they wore brown shoes to the interview).
Thankfully this kind of attitude is dying out and even the American banks are starting to relax to say that you only really need to wear a tie if you're facing off to clients that day. I now only wear a tie once a week on average when i head to meetings with a client but i still like to have some nice ties.
I never quite understood the concept of wearing a skinny tie (like the indie outfits of the early 2000s) out into clubs and bars.
N.B how on earth you can wear a tie so tight that it gives you headaches but not put 2 and 2 together of the cause of the headache is beyond me! I'm thinking he may have also had a shirt with a collar size too small for him, i know i've had the odd shirt which made me feel like my head would explode if i buttoned it all the way up.
Depends on customers. If my customers saw me wearing a tie they would know i'd been told to do it which, at management level, is a sign of top heaviness. After all, If you don't trust management to use their own judgement when dressing what else don't you trust them to do?
My ex-CEO insisted on wearing a tie. I was the only person in the office that actively refused, I reasoned that there was no formal uniform policy and no one could really be bothered pursuing management for not wearing a tie.
My ex-CEO insisted on wearing a tie. I was the only person in the office that actively refused, I reasoned that there was no formal uniform policy and no one could really be bothered pursuing management for not wearing a tie.
My office has a sensible smart-casual dress policy, as we do host clients in the offices as well. I could wear jeans if I wanted to but that doesn't feel quite right to me most of the time.
Nowadays I will only wear a tie when I am going out to certain customers, or have to present to the MD/CEO (very rare I get called to those levels) but most of the industry now is tie-free.
I do like wearing a tie and looking smart for weddings and other such occasions, if I look good, I feel good.
Nowadays I will only wear a tie when I am going out to certain customers, or have to present to the MD/CEO (very rare I get called to those levels) but most of the industry now is tie-free.
I do like wearing a tie and looking smart for weddings and other such occasions, if I look good, I feel good.
They do seem to be slowly dying out. I stopped wearing one about a year ago except to top tier city customer visits, everywhere else I know that just by being in a suit I'm probably at a dress code above the customer anyway, which suits me, good impressions and all that. A lot of the newer city banks/investment shops are pretty relaxed about dress code these days.
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