Asking "Where are you from'"
Asking "Where are you from'"
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Frank7

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6,619 posts

117 months

Tuesday 31st October 2017
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My wife's cousin told us of a memo circulating in the company that she works for, saying that asking people of different colour to yourself, "Yes, but where do you REALLY come from?", when they originally answer, "England", is bad practice, and should cease, this gave my wife and I pause for thought.

It's not a question that I'd ever ask of someone with a different skin colour to mine, nor would I ever seek to establish whether someone was a Vietnamese, a Laotian, or a Cambodian, or a Malay or a Chinese, but very often, when having dinner in a restaurant, I and my dining companions will hazard guesses at the nationality of the waiter/waitress, by their accents.
Usually French, Spanish, or Italian are easier to guess, but Polish, Czech, Hungarian, and Slovakian are difficult to discern the differences, likewise Estonian, Latvian, and Lithuanian, and just when you think you've narrowed an accent down to either Bulgarian or Romanian, the speaker throws a spanner in the works by announcing that he/she is Moldovan.

Doofus

34,472 posts

203 months

Tuesday 31st October 2017
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Ok, thank you.

lucido grigio

44,044 posts

193 months

Tuesday 31st October 2017
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The dark winter nights must fly by....tumbleweed

HTP99

25,321 posts

170 months

Tuesday 31st October 2017
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Frank7 said:
My wife's cousin told us of a memo circulating in the company that she works for, saying that asking people of different colour to yourself, "Yes, but where do you REALLY come from?", when they originally answer, "England", is bad practice, and should cease
I agree, TBH I wouldn't ask them in the first place if they had a perfectly normal English accent, as clearly they are likely from England, if there was a twang there, I may ask but I'd ask along the lines of "oh you have a faint accent, do you originate from another country?" Or something like that.

Monkeylegend

29,380 posts

261 months

Tuesday 31st October 2017
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Frank7 said:
My wife's cousin told us of a memo circulating in the company that she works for, saying that asking people of different colour to yourself, "Yes, but where do you REALLY come from?", when they originally answer, "England", is bad practice, and should cease, this gave my wife and I pause for thought.

It's not a question that I'd ever ask of someone with a different skin colour to mine, nor would I ever seek to establish whether someone was a Vietnamese, a Laotian, or a Cambodian, or a Malay or a Chinese, but very often, when having dinner in a restaurant, I and my dining companions will hazard guesses at the nationality of the waiter/waitress, by their accents.
Usually French, Spanish, or Italian are easier to guess, but Polish, Czech, Hungarian, and Slovakian are difficult to discern the differences, likewise Estonian, Latvian, and Lithuanian, and just when you think you've narrowed an accent down to either Bulgarian or Romanian, the speaker throws a spanner in the works by announcing that he/she is Moldovan.
What's your country of origin Frank?

stuartmmcfc

8,775 posts

222 months

Tuesday 31st October 2017
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And the winner of this months most boring post is...

arfur

4,015 posts

244 months

Tuesday 31st October 2017
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To be fair to the OP, my other half gets this quite often. She is Lithuanian and speaks perfectly good English. She does however have an accent and almost always gets the "where are you from ?" question.

Nowadays she says Jamacia .... That usually shuts people up as they look at the 180 tall blonde in front of them

Monkeylegend

29,380 posts

261 months

Tuesday 31st October 2017
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arfur said:
That usually shuts people up as they look at the 180 tall blonde in front of them
They should at least have the courtesy to look at your wife when asking.

Frank7

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6,619 posts

117 months

Tuesday 31st October 2017
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Monkeylegend said:
What's your country of origin Frank?
France

Monkeylegend

29,380 posts

261 months

Tuesday 31st October 2017
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Frank7 said:
Monkeylegend said:
What's your country of origin Frank?
France
ISWYDT.

McVities

358 posts

228 months

Tuesday 31st October 2017
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Frank7 said:
Monkeylegend said:
What's your country of origin Frank?
France
Do you transport things Mr. Frank?

SimonTheSailor

13,017 posts

258 months

Tuesday 31st October 2017
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Do we now post statements on here rather than questions ?

MrBarry123

6,108 posts

151 months

Tuesday 31st October 2017
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SimonTheSailor said:
Do we now post statements on here rather than questions ?
Evidently.

DanielSan

20,036 posts

197 months

Tuesday 31st October 2017
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Isn’t this more of an issue depending on the situation, if it’s a general conversation and you ask where someone’s accent is from then I can’t see the issue, it’s showing an interest in the person you’re talking to. No different to someone asking me if I’ve got a Stoke accent....

If it’s a point blank question from nowhere because someone is a different colour/talks differently then that’s just rude.

joshleb

1,550 posts

174 months

Tuesday 31st October 2017
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All depends on context surely.

Randomer, or someone serving you, that's a bit weird.

A colleague or someone you know better, just ask about their parents and that should tell you.

Monkeylegend

29,380 posts

261 months

Tuesday 31st October 2017
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Or you could simply ask "what part of the world are you from" I suppose.

A lot of people love talking about their place of origin.

fizz47

3,245 posts

240 months

Tuesday 31st October 2017
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I get this question asked a fair bit too- travel quite a few places and it gets asked everywhere.

Being of a slightly tanned complexion it’s almost a weekly occurrence for me.

My accent I’m told is very typically English and on occasion told it’s leaning towards ‘posh’ which is what throws people off.

They will ask where I am from even though they know I live in the UK etc.

What they really want to ask is what is my ethnicity or where my parents or grand parents are from but only a few will do and sometimes I can be a bit of an asshole because I know what they are asking but I won’t give them the answer they want...


Them - ‘where are you from?’

Me- ‘From the the UK’

Them - ‘Ah - but where are you really from?’

Me- ‘I’m really from the uk. I live there.’

Them - ‘oh really - but where are you oridginally from?

Me- ‘I was born and raised there so thats where I’m from.

Them - ‘ahh - so your British but......’


A lot of people can’t seem to reconcile that I’m from the UK as they they think I don’t have the ‘right skin tone’ - most of the time it’s not a lack of comprehension out of malice but I would say just confusion especially from those countries where the population is relatively uniform- most of the time European countries

Ironically when I get this asked in the US my first answer gets accepted straight away and a lot of people have no desire to know that they need to know my ethnicity of my parents or grand parents..


Eric Mc

125,742 posts

295 months

Tuesday 31st October 2017
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McVities said:
Do you transport things Mr. Frank?
No, he stamps things.

andy-xr

13,204 posts

234 months

Tuesday 31st October 2017
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In Wales they ask where are you to?

I think the idea somewhere behind that probably had some logic that went with it, I dont know many people of my generation who'd think 'yeah, but you know, where you actually from' when speaking with people who arent typically british white. My older generation family might, I know my Aunt is a closet racist with Indians and Polish especially, but there's only so many battles you can fight.

SantaBarbara

3,244 posts

138 months

Tuesday 31st October 2017
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If I detect the hint of an Irish accent in someone, I will usually ask them which County they are from.