Parking restrictions for residents
Parking restrictions for residents
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anonymous-user

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84 months

Wednesday 1st November 2017
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We only have on street parking and manage quite happily parking where ever we can get which is 90% of the time outside our own home.

We live close to a station and the parking does get very busy with lots of residents complaining for several years to the council for residents permit parking.

The proposal by the council is to put restricted hours parking up but refuse to give residents a pass meaning residents will have to move their vehicles every day to comply with the restricted hours. Residents who go on holiday will get tickets for not moving their vehicle etc....

Does anyone here have any knowledge of a council introducing a similar albeit daft scheme?

telford_mike

1,221 posts

215 months

Wednesday 1st November 2017
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Worse. In a street by us there was a similar problem. The solution?

Double yellows.

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

84 months

Wednesday 1st November 2017
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That would be better, our council got rid of their parking enforcement patrols so there are now none and the Police don’t Police double yellows or not in our area anyway.

I understand their pain though, maybe I’m being too simplistic expecting a council to protect residents.

Shakermaker

11,317 posts

130 months

Thursday 2nd November 2017
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When you say "refusing to give the residents a permit" does that not just mean that you will have to go and purchase one, and prove that you are a resident?

Blue Oval84

5,396 posts

191 months

Thursday 2nd November 2017
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The scheme you've described would be called a "light touch" scheme where I live (Brighton), as opposed to a full scheme whereby it's restricted all day, every day, and you need a permit or pay & display bay.

However, with the light touch scheme, I was always of the impression that they sold permits to the residents so that they don't need to move their cars. Last part of town I lived in was fully restricted however so they definitely sold permits there (made themselves a very tidy sum!)

al1991

4,552 posts

210 months

Thursday 2nd November 2017
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Similar here, though it gets busy with people parking to work in the village centre even though there are 3 free large council car parks.

The bigger issue is the way people park, taking up two spaces.

On balance I prefer being permit less, we like having people around and we don’t want to make it a chore for them to have to park miles away and walk, or get taxis etc.

Truckosaurus

13,271 posts

314 months

Thursday 2nd November 2017
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Faz50 said:
Does anyone here have any knowledge of a council introducing a similar albeit daft scheme?
A colleague used to live near a station so there were plenty of non-residents parking in the street. The council put in a "no parking between 1pm and 2pm Mon-Fri" regulation, so you couldn't leave your car parked all day, but no problem if you were a resident who went to work in your car. But, as the OP suggests, not helpful if you were a resident who had to leave the car all day.

Dog Star

17,616 posts

198 months

Thursday 2nd November 2017
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al1991 said:
Similar here, though it gets busy with people parking to work in the village centre even though there are 3 free large council car parks.
This is something on PH - everyone says they live in a "village" - how can a village have a centre that is busy with people working inite, let alone one that has three large council car parks? confused

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

84 months

Thursday 2nd November 2017
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Just to clear up, the council say residents will not be issued with a permit and will have to abide with the restricted hours like everyone else.
I’d rather it stay as it is.

It’s up for consultation so I would imagine it’ll get sorted out then. Thanks for the replies.

Magic919

14,541 posts

231 months

Thursday 2nd November 2017
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The consultation is the time to make your views known. What the Council end up doing might be another matter. Try to get responses from as many people as possible.

fat80b

3,246 posts

251 months

Thursday 2nd November 2017
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al1991 said:
On balance I prefer being permit less, we like having people around and we don’t want to make it a chore for them to have to park miles away and walk, or get taxis etc.
This for me too - It's all well and good thinking that having visitors passes and the like will be OK but it is a complete pain in the rear to have to do this everytime a family member comes to stay / someone wants to pop round.

In my experience (a good few years ago in Durham), the bringing in of restrictions and permits didn't result in it being any easier to find a space - It just caused additional aggro and cost for the resident.


mp3manager

4,254 posts

226 months

Thursday 2nd November 2017
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Faz50 said:
The proposal by the council is to put restricted hours parking up but refuse to give residents a pass meaning residents will have to move their vehicles every day to comply with the restricted hours.
They can't and won't bring in restrictions like that because it's discrimination towards disabled people. Someone's yanking your chain.

Harry H

3,765 posts

186 months

Thursday 2nd November 2017
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I'd fight like hell to avoid permit parking. When they come along to repaint the road they'll have to add in loads of space for loading unloading, disabled bays etc which means you end up with half the available parking you had before. So even at weekends when the station is empty means you won't be able to find somewhere to park.

Friends can no longer visit. Get a loan car whilst yours is being serviced means you can't park.. Squeeze on the end of a bay with wheels touching the line and it's a ticket etc etc

Then every year the permits get more and more expensive. After all they've got a captive market.

I used to live in St Margrets near Twickenham where everyone wanted residents parking because of the station. Yes it was a bit of a pain before but most got by. We soon realised what a huge mistake it was after it had been implemented though.

Having said all that the council will implement the scheme that produces the most revenue/ verses cost no matter what the residents want.


mcg_

1,454 posts

122 months

Thursday 2nd November 2017
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We live in a terrace house area, difficult to park at times when everyones home.

The council consulted on a parking permit scheme, where residents had to pay £30 a year for a permit. 2 permits max per house.

Surprisingly only 30% of people said yes, so it didn't happen.

Not sure why your council wouldn't do a permit scheme instead?

Hoofy

80,091 posts

312 months

Thursday 2nd November 2017
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Faz50 said:
Just to clear up, the council say residents will not be issued with a permit and will have to abide with the restricted hours like everyone else.
I’d rather it stay as it is.

It’s up for consultation so I would imagine it’ll get sorted out then. Thanks for the replies.
Sounds awful if you're a resident especially as your OP states 90% of the time you can park outside your house!

I'd see if your council has a petition system. For Surrey County Council, they wanted to restrict parking outside local shops which would just (1) reduce business for independent shops (2) push the problem further away from the roads with the local shops. A petition resulted in 25k people saying things should remain as they are. The council conceded! FWIW, I signed the petition despite the fact that it is a nuisance that so many people park close to the row of shops I live near to as you have to negotiate carefully when a driver is coming from the opposite direction but I'd rather that than the alternative.

yellowjack

18,491 posts

196 months

Thursday 2nd November 2017
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fat80b said:
al1991 said:
On balance I prefer being permit less, we like having people around and we don’t want to make it a chore for them to have to park miles away and walk, or get taxis etc.
This for me too - It's all well and good thinking that having visitors passes and the like will be OK but it is a complete pain in the rear to have to do this everytime a family member comes to stay / someone wants to pop round.

In my experience (a good few years ago in Durham), the bringing in of restrictions and permits didn't result in it being any easier to find a space - It just caused additional aggro and cost for the resident.
My son lives in Reading in a student shared house. Most of the street is "permit only" parking, with a slack handful of "1 hour - no return within 2 hour" spaces at one end. The very first thing we got him to do was apply for his two free books of council "visitor parking" vouchers. 40 half day vouchers that permit a visitor to park in the resident permit area. I've now got 10 days worth of parking from the book we liberated from him. He has the other one for if/when his housemates have visitors. Further books can be purchased too, up to a (seemingly quite generous) limit. It seems to work OK. During the daytime spaces are easy to come by, and there seems to be no issue with cheapskate city centre commuters trying to colonise the on-street parking to save money.

Shakermaker

11,317 posts

130 months

Thursday 2nd November 2017
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I struggle to understand what the proposal is the way the OP has written it..

Is it that you will only be allowed to park for a maximum amount of time during certain hours?

We have permit parking on my road because we live close to the town centre, with "residents only" between 10am-midday to avoid people parking there for work all day. However, I have a driveway on to which we can fit all 3 cars if we need to, so that saves me £41 a year parking permit.

ashleyman

7,284 posts

129 months

Thursday 2nd November 2017
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We have bays outside that are free to use by anyone at any time. These often get filled up at what I like to call 'shift change' when the residents leave for work and commuters take the free spots. The same happens again in the evening when commuters leave and residents return. The only downside of the unlimited bays is we often get people leaving untaxed and uninsured cars in them for long periods of time. Usually until I report them to the council and they get taken away.

Anywhere there isn't a bay there is a single yellow line with restrictions between 9-10AM on weekdays. Any car parked on the line between those times will get a parking ticket.

This system works really well and if there is a free spot in a bay I'll take it but often I just park on the yellow line. Only had 1 ticket in 2 years of living here and parking in the same spot every day.

If we didn't have the restricted hour on the yellow line it would be mayhem as it's usually very busy at shift change with people trying to get themselves a parking bay before walking down to the station.

Edited by ashleyman on Thursday 2nd November 11:57

Riley Blue

23,205 posts

256 months

Thursday 2nd November 2017
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Dog Star said:
al1991 said:
Similar here, though it gets busy with people parking to work in the village centre even though there are 3 free large council car parks.
This is something on PH - everyone says they live in a "village" - how can a village have a centre that is busy with people working inite, let alone one that has three large council car parks? confused
Very easily, the largest village in the UK has over 15,000 inhabitants. There are probably a few dozen over 10,000.

Shakermaker

11,317 posts

130 months

Thursday 2nd November 2017
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Riley Blue said:
Very easily, the largest village in the UK has over 15,000 inhabitants. There are probably a few dozen over 10,000.
But that does depend how you define a village. All the places claiming to be the largest village, could just as easily be a small town, although they don't have a town charter..

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_the_largest_...