amazon- trust them to not sell fakes?
amazon- trust them to not sell fakes?
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steveo3002

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11,215 posts

204 months

Thursday 23rd November 2017
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looking around for some brand name sunglasses , £25 cheaper supplied by amazon vs the proper store

should i 100% trust im getting the real deal from amazon or worth the 20 notes to ensure theyre the real ?

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

156 months

Thursday 23rd November 2017
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Are they actually being sold BY Amazon? Or just somebody who happens to use Amazon as a shopfront?

steveo3002

Original Poster:

11,215 posts

204 months

Thursday 23rd November 2017
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not sure how do i find out...says avail from these sellers and i can click on the one saying "sold by amazon"

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

156 months

Thursday 23rd November 2017
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steveo3002 said:
not sure how do i find out...says avail from these sellers and i can click on the one saying "sold by amazon"
There might be a clue there.

steveo3002

Original Poster:

11,215 posts

204 months

Thursday 23rd November 2017
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so 100% trustwothy ?

Robbo 27

4,299 posts

129 months

Thursday 23rd November 2017
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Its my experience that Amazon are not beyond selling fakes. I collect fountain pens and have bought fake pens from Amazon sellers, they were quick to offer a refund but thats not the point.

grumbas

1,160 posts

221 months

Thursday 23rd November 2017
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From what I've seen before on threads here, I think Amazon muddle stock up.

So someone using 'fulfilled by amazon' selling a normal branded item may have their stock mixed up with other sellers - Amazon just keep track that they have x of a certain item, and know what share of x belongs to each seller.

So if a seller puts fakes into the supply chain (knowingly or not) you could well end up buying a fake from Amazon themselves.

Caveat - this is my interpretation of what I've read, could be miles off the mark.

Personally if I knew how to spot a fake I'd probably chance it and just return, Amazon don't seem too fussy about returns within the first few days. If I didn't know I'd spend the extra to make sure it's real.

PAULJ5555

3,554 posts

206 months

Thursday 23rd November 2017
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Robbo 27 said:
Its my experience that Amazon are not beyond selling fakes. I collect fountain pens and have bought fake pens from Amazon sellers, they were quick to offer a refund but thats not the point.
Boom Boom

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

156 months

Thursday 23rd November 2017
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grumbas said:
From what I've seen before on threads here, I think Amazon muddle stock up.

So someone using 'fulfilled by amazon' selling a normal branded item may have their stock mixed up with other sellers - Amazon just keep track that they have x of a certain item, and know what share of x belongs to each seller.

So if a seller puts fakes into the supply chain (knowingly or not) you could well end up buying a fake from Amazon themselves.

Caveat - this is my interpretation of what I've read, could be miles off the mark.

Personally if I knew how to spot a fake I'd probably chance it and just return, Amazon don't seem too fussy about returns within the first few days. If I didn't know I'd spend the extra to make sure it's real.
I'd surprised there's any difference in stock logistics at all - I would have expected "fulfilled by Amazon" to be the exact same stock through the exact same supply chain, just that the middleman seller gets a discount off Amazon, some of which they pass on to the customer if they want to undercut Amazon themselves. Which, frankly, sounds like a mug's game.

Vendors who ship their own stock are, of course, completely different.

raddog

80 posts

117 months

Thursday 23rd November 2017
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Fulfilled by Amazon (we sell this way) is just us listing our products with Amazon, we list them as being x product, send our stock to Amazon who sell our products, we are the Sold By x , fulfilled by Amazon. There's no check on the product itself by Amazon so it's relatively easy for a scammer to put counterfeit goods into the system.

There are probably a lot of people selling things out of the backdoor via Amazon marketplace so these cheaper deals can be a result of that or other questionable practices. If you buy fulfilled by Amazon as opposed to fulfilled by seller themselves, Amazon look after the returns and payment\refunds so you should be safe if you're able to identify it as fake.

pherlopolus

2,189 posts

188 months

Thursday 23rd November 2017
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You can send your stock to amazon for them to distribute too

steveo3002

Original Poster:

11,215 posts

204 months

Thursday 23rd November 2017
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think i will stump up the extra and know ive got the real deal then

ROSSinHD

843 posts

181 months

Thursday 23rd November 2017
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I have had fake Nike trainers which were sold by Amazon and not a third party.

Dodsy

7,175 posts

257 months

Thursday 23rd November 2017
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Ive had fake levi jeans sold by amazon not 'fulfilled by' or from one of their sellers.

grumbas

1,160 posts

221 months

Thursday 23rd November 2017
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raddog said:
Fulfilled by Amazon (we sell this way) is just us listing our products with Amazon, we list them as being x product, send our stock to Amazon who sell our products, we are the Sold By x , fulfilled by Amazon. There's no check on the product itself by Amazon so it's relatively easy for a scammer to put counterfeit goods into the system.
So taking something simple like a PS4 game, it's not uncommon for Amazon to let another seller go 'top spot' and undercut them, but it still shows prime as fulfilled by Amazon.

So Amazon have say 100 of that game in stock, 50 purchased by them, 50 from various other sellers. Do Amazon keep their stock separate or just mix it all together to make fulfilment easier?

vikingaero

13,399 posts

199 months

Saturday 25th November 2017
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Fulfilled by Amazon is turning into an eBay Counterfeit-fest. Try buying a pair of Apple Earphones/pods.

Initforthemoney

743 posts

174 months

Saturday 25th November 2017
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Yep, Amazon supplying fake goods.

Had a couple of items from their very own shelves that was packaged in the brands own, only to have a cheap weightless counterfeit inside.

Old Merc

3,819 posts

197 months

Saturday 25th November 2017
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steveo3002 said:
think i will stump up the extra and know ive got the real deal then
Why not just go direct (say RayBan ?) online,or a major retailer like John Lewis online. Then you will have piece of mind and customer back up.

mondeoman

11,430 posts

296 months

Saturday 25th November 2017
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If Amazon follow eBay, are the days of the one stop mega shop online numbered?

steveo3002

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11,215 posts

204 months

Saturday 25th November 2017
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Old Merc said:
Why not just go direct (say RayBan ?) online,or a major retailer like John Lewis online. Then you will have piece of mind and customer back up.
i did today...25£ more than amazon but no worry about them being market jobbies