Ask a mid-level Airport services planning manager anything
Ask a mid-level Airport services planning manager anything
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Shakermaker

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130 months

Wednesday 20th December 2017
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I suspect this is the thread that you've all been waiting for really. We've had Car salesman, supercar renters, bus drivers and taxi drivers with their own threads, so I thought it was high time I got it started for you all.

You are welcome.


Europa1

10,923 posts

218 months

Wednesday 20th December 2017
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What is an airport services planning manager?

Mr MXT

7,793 posts

313 months

Wednesday 20th December 2017
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Do you want to buy some JET A1?

Shakermaker

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Wednesday 20th December 2017
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Europa1 said:
What is an airport services planning manager?
Excellent question.

It is, in my opinion, the single most crucial role in the whole business. Without me, other people would have to do more work, and also without my role, I would have to work elsewhere or do a different role in the business with all my experience..

I basically play with spreadsheets and calculate numbers to give other people an idea of how much it will cost them, or how they could save money/spend the money they have better.

But I'm only mid-level, not yet full Company Director


Europa1

10,923 posts

218 months

Wednesday 20th December 2017
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Shakermaker said:
Excellent question.

It is, in my opinion, the single most crucial role in the whole business. Without me, other people would have to do more work, and also without my role, I would have to work elsewhere or do a different role in the business with all my experience..

I basically play with spreadsheets and calculate numbers to give other people an idea of how much it will cost them, or how they could save money/spend the money they have better.

But I'm only mid-level, not yet full Company Director
A follow up question: what's the "it" in "How much it will cost them"?

Shakermaker

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Wednesday 20th December 2017
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Europa1 said:
Shakermaker said:
Excellent question.

It is, in my opinion, the single most crucial role in the whole business. Without me, other people would have to do more work, and also without my role, I would have to work elsewhere or do a different role in the business with all my experience..

I basically play with spreadsheets and calculate numbers to give other people an idea of how much it will cost them, or how they could save money/spend the money they have better.

But I'm only mid-level, not yet full Company Director
A follow up question: what's the "it" in "How much it will cost them"?
For me, usually the "it" is "labour"

Europa1

10,923 posts

218 months

Wednesday 20th December 2017
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Shakermaker said:
For me, usually the "it" is "labour"
The labour to do what?

glenrobbo

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180 months

Wednesday 20th December 2017
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What is a mid-level Airport?

Is it something like Coventry?


Why has it got a capital 'A'?

p4cks

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229 months

Wednesday 20th December 2017
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Have you shagged any air hostesses?

RC1807

13,682 posts

198 months

Wednesday 20th December 2017
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glenrobbo said:
What is a mid-level Airport?

Is it something like Coventry?


Why has it got a capital 'A'?
laugh

Japveesix

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198 months

Wednesday 20th December 2017
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If you had to be one or the other would you rather be a taxi driver or a bus driver?

Shakermaker

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Wednesday 20th December 2017
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Japveesix said:
If you had to be one or the other would you rather be a taxi driver or a bus driver?
I think I'd go with bus driver based on that

Shakermaker

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Wednesday 20th December 2017
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p4cks said:
Have you shagged any air hostesses?
Yes, but only once

Shakermaker

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Wednesday 20th December 2017
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RC1807 said:
glenrobbo said:
What is a mid-level Airport?

Is it something like Coventry?


Why has it got a capital 'A'?
laugh
LOL. The ambiguity of my thread title strikes

Shakermaker

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Wednesday 20th December 2017
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Europa1 said:
Shakermaker said:
For me, usually the "it" is "labour"
The labour to do what?
Various things depending on what contract we are looking at
Aircraft Cleaning, terminal cleaning, passenger assistance services, security - but not passenger screening, more things like baggage screening, or people going into secure but not critical parts of the airport, we also do a few facilities management bits but I have little involvement in those directly.

Thankyou4calling

11,011 posts

203 months

Wednesday 20th December 2017
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Shakermaker said:
Yes, but only once
Did he enjoy it?

Shakermaker

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The Crack Fox said:
How often do you masturbate?
All the time... my most visited sites are PH and PH... :lol:

abzmike

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136 months

Wednesday 20th December 2017
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Why are customer services staff in airports generally so poorly informed, and really unable to offer much valuable help?

Oh, and why so airlines blame airports, and airports blame airlines?

Thanks!

texaxile

3,787 posts

180 months

Wednesday 20th December 2017
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What is your typical day like?.

Shakermaker

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abzmike said:
Why are customer services staff in airports generally so poorly informed, and really unable to offer much valuable help?

Oh, and why so airlines blame airports, and airports blame airlines?

Thanks!
I know exactly what you mean - something I want to eliminate myself.

It boils down to a lot of people working with the mindset of "That's not my job, mate" and ignoring people.

Me, I don't know everything, but I know where to find the information that the person is looking for even if I don't know it myself - you do get all kinds of questions thrown at you but that just meant that I used that to learn more, and encourage staff to do the same. "What time does the train go to London?" "I don't know, but if you go around to the railway station (directions) then the information screens are on the left hand side above the ticket desk, there's one which says "Next Fastest train" at the far end which will tell you"

There's also a huge unwillingness by some parties to actually share relevant information with others. Never more apparent than during a flight delay. Most people that you would encounter when you are walking around the terminal or even when you go to a help desk - even the exact correct help desk for your airline or their appointed agent - are working to a screen which only really gives outline information. Nobody actually tells that person "Right, the plane is delayed, the engineers have got the spare parts and it will take them 2.5 hours to fix and test", they will be told "Next information in one hour" and for some (not all) airlines, they think this is the best way to handle people, drip feeding them information but worse, only drip feeding it to the front line staff who have to deal with 250 passengers who will be on a scale of "OK, thanks for the update" to "OMG I WANT ALL MY MONEY BACK YOU INCOMPETENT FOOL, I SHALL NEVER EVER USE THIS POS AIRPORT AIRLINE OR COMPANY AGAIN I'M GOING TO COMPLAIN TO EVERYONE UP TO THE LEVEL OF GOD" as soon as you give them info. Which in my opinion, only seeks to make more people unhappy/enraged if they then feel let down/misinformed. I've seen people very good at handling these situations, and I've seen people handling it very badly. In my previous role, I would be trying to make sure that the people who handled it badly, were shown how to try and handle it better.

As to the "blame" question - that depends as well, on what the issue is. But they like to blame each other for minor failings in an overall wider picture that they caused themselves - I've seen it myself, the airline will be delayed because of something that is within their remit - say, the flight arrives late because the airline is trying to meet an incredibly tight schedule and only gives itself 30 minutes from arrival of one flight to departure of the next. but when the flight arrives late, it can no longer be parked in the place it was planned for, because it was late, that isn't accessible. And for arguments sake, that now means the aircraft can't park next to a jetty bridge and everyone has to get a transit bus to the terminal. Passengers will complain about the extra faff, but the airline will say it is the airports fault for not having enough space for them to park, but the airport will then point to the fact the flight was late.. the airline will say it could have been forseen they were going to be late, make space for us.. and it goes on, and on. Because at the end, I guess someone has to pay and neither side wants to if they can get out of it.