Millennials, why
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irocfan

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48,995 posts

220 months

Sunday 15th April 2018
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are we so down on them?

Let's be honest here I know that a lot of us oldies here scoff at millennials (I'm one who scoffs frequently) but in all honesty if we're faced with a generation of 'pussies' (to be crude) who is to blame? Surely a large part (the majority even) of that blame must lie with us, the generation who brought them up.

We've been encouraged to advise our kids that they're special and can do anything they want (which, within reason, is right). We've encouraged them to express themselves however they want. We've encouraged them to believe in themselves no matter what. All of this is great but are we teaching our kids how to deal with failure? How to deal with rejection? How to deal with opposing points of view?

Given what I've read over the years I do believe that we've mollycoddled our kids, to a degree we've got a generation of adult children many of whom can't (or don't want to) think for themselves. Many of whom have not been helped by us 'helping' them - rather their emotional wellbeing and growth has been stunted.


Down on millennials? I've got to say that I think the generation we need to blame for the failings of this generation are in fact the ones complaining about it. US!


grumbledoak

32,571 posts

263 months

Sunday 15th April 2018
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I would normally "blame the parents". It is normally correct. As is that "they fk you up, your Mum and Dad" poem. And it is true that the baby boomers effectively stole their grandchildren's wealth.

But I don't think it is the parents who have created the millennials. I think the entitled victim attitude has been created by politics and media over generations, and is being stoked on purpose.

bitchstewie

67,883 posts

240 months

Sunday 15th April 2018
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Usually when deriding criminals it's all the parents fault isn't it?

What's different here?

Anyway "it wasn't like that in my day" isn't exactly a new thing.

anonymous-user

84 months

Sunday 15th April 2018
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Lots of we and us in your post.

Speak for yourself. hehe

I haven’t raised any incompetent children and I don’t think a whole generation are either.

sc0tt

18,295 posts

231 months

Sunday 15th April 2018
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It was always better in the older generation...

Evanivitch

26,398 posts

152 months

Sunday 15th April 2018
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Don't know, must be a Boomers thing.

Stormzy 2018 said:
People try to put us d-down (Talkin' 'bout my generation)
Just because we g-g-get around (Talkin' 'bout my generation)

xjay1337

15,966 posts

148 months

Sunday 15th April 2018
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Another bash the generational thread. Must be Sunday afternoon!

vetrof

3,037 posts

203 months

Sunday 15th April 2018
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Evanivitch said:
Don't know, must be a Boomers thing.

Stormzy 2018 said:
People try to put us d-down (Talkin' 'bout my generation)
Just because we g-g-get around (Talkin' 'bout my generation)
Who?

andy_s

19,855 posts

289 months

Sunday 15th April 2018
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El stovey said:
Lots of we and us in your post.

Speak for yourself. hehe

I haven’t raised any incompetent children and I don’t think a whole generation are either.
Me neither - lad just had his 18th and had a party with about 20 odd people all of whom were interesting to talk to, witty, helpful, polite, getting on well in life (better than me at that stage) and were dare I say quite 'normal'.

ambuletz

11,759 posts

211 months

Sunday 15th April 2018
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Older people complaining younger people are useless, it's nothing new.

"Back in my day...." etc.

bristolracer

5,951 posts

179 months

Sunday 15th April 2018
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grumbledoak said:
And it is true that the baby boomers effectively stole their grandchildren's wealth.
No they didn’t.
They simply took advantage of the opportunities available to them believing that by accumulating wealth it would benefit their children and their children’s children.


Silverbullet767

11,317 posts

236 months

Sunday 15th April 2018
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grumbledoak

32,571 posts

263 months

Sunday 15th April 2018
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bristolracer said:
No they didn’t.
They simply took advantage of the opportunities available to them believing that by accumulating wealth it would benefit their children and their children’s children.
Your failure to understand how this works is how successive governments get away with it.

bristolracer

5,951 posts

179 months

Sunday 15th April 2018
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grumbledoak said:
Your failure to understand how this works is how successive governments get away with it.
Perhaps then it is the government who is committing the theft? The individual will always take advantage of the opportunities open to them.

MrBarry123

6,108 posts

151 months

Sunday 15th April 2018
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anonymous said:
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laugh at both of them.

Gooose

1,520 posts

109 months

Sunday 15th April 2018
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I have to work with all ages of blokes as a mechanical fitter and to be honest I would work with a millennial over the older guys in a heartbeat, all the younger lads I work with get stuck in and are happy to graft all day, the older blokes are a right pain in the arse.
They have worked most of there lives during the good times of steel, manufacturing, coal and earnt a good wage basically doing nothing all day. It’s a common thing to hear how there were 3 or 4 trades people for one mans work, they are so lazy it’s hard to believe.

The old blokes harp on like they are Fred bloody Dibnah, but they are soft as sh£t and go crying to their union if they have to do more than a job a day!

Previous

1,652 posts

184 months

Sunday 15th April 2018
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bristolracer said:
No they didn’t.
They simply took advantage of the opportunities available to them believing that by accumulating wealth it would benefit their children and their children’s children.
Yes and no.

Taking advantage of opportunity is one thing.

However in part various policies (pensions fpr example) have had the effect of borrowing and expecting the next generation to pay it back.








Du1point8

22,925 posts

222 months

Monday 16th April 2018
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Silverbullet767 said:
This one I dont like, as a lot of the people that bought houses for not much also endured 10-15% interest rates.

A lot of millennials I know live on cheap credit and firmly believe that its ok that if they get in too deep, they can simply reset by going bankrupt and it wont affect them as their excuse is that they will never own homes anyway.

I remember being made to earn it (Im in my 30s) and trying to get cheap credit was next to fking impossible, I had to fight to get even 3-5k for a move from up north to London and first deposit on a rental as money was tied up for 4 weeks in the previous one.

So I could prove the money was there to pay it, I could afford it anyway and yet Im jumping through hoops... Now I barely need to know how to wipe my ass and I can get 30k on credit.

Unbusy

934 posts

127 months

Monday 16th April 2018
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vetrof said:
Evanivitch said:
Don't know, must be a Boomers thing.

Stormzy 2018 said:
People try to put us d-down (Talkin' 'bout my generation)
Just because we g-g-get around (Talkin' 'bout my generation)
Who?


Iswydt! thumbup

dmulally

6,402 posts

210 months

Monday 16th April 2018
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All the Millennial's ever did were not afford houses and eat smashed avo on toast. Unlike the emperor palpatine like boomers with their predictable voting demographic which was ripe for the pandering to. Truly the worst generation.

I'm generation X. Are they even anything apart from boring?