How does Facebook know this????
How does Facebook know this????
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D1ckie

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741 posts

220 months

Tuesday 17th April 2018
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This morning when I got into the office I was browsing for some goods on a well know retailers website, didn't buy just browsing, on my desktop PC.

At lunch time I open Facebook on my Mobile and there are adverts for the goods I was searching for earlier from the same retailer. Now I havent searched for these on my mobile so how does FB know I've been looking for these goods?


Rojibo

1,747 posts

107 months

Tuesday 17th April 2018
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Are you or have you ever logged into Facebook on the desktop PC?

They track your browsing, even after you log out.

randlemarcus

13,646 posts

261 months

Tuesday 17th April 2018
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Cookies, user session tracking and a unifying "dickie" on both devices. Not everything only happens on your bit of the systems...

MacW

1,351 posts

206 months

Tuesday 17th April 2018
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Logged into Google on both devices? Browser and android phone for example?

mcbook

1,442 posts

205 months

Tuesday 17th April 2018
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Were you using Chrome while signed into your Google account? If so, Chrome effectively shares search history across devices and Facebook then gets the info from Chrome app on your phone.

Shakermaker

11,317 posts

130 months

Tuesday 17th April 2018
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Hey there's always the slim chance that it could be a pure coincidence that you were the "target market" for the product you wanted and were therefore already going to see the advert for it because your profile matched enough of the criteria of people likely to be interested..

captain_cynic

17,360 posts

125 months

Tuesday 17th April 2018
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randlemarcus said:
Cookies, user session tracking and a unifying "dickie" on both devices. Not everything only happens on your bit of the systems...
This.

That little F icon conveniently located on a lot of pages tracks what you are looking at even if you're not using Facebook via cookies. It then sends this back to Facebook.

Yet another reason I use adblock and ghostery. I cant imagine how unusable the web is without them.

Gary29

5,234 posts

129 months

Tuesday 17th April 2018
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captain_cynic said:
Yet another reason I use adblock and ghostery. I cant imagine how unusable the web is without them.
The same. Apart from you get a couple of targeted ads in the banners, instead of a generic one.

Matthen

1,453 posts

181 months

Tuesday 17th April 2018
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Gary29 said:
captain_cynic said:
Yet another reason I use adblock and ghostery. I cant imagine how unusable the web is without them.
The same. Apart from you get a couple of targeted ads in the banners, instead of a generic one.
You don't get any ads with adblock...

captain_cynic

17,360 posts

125 months

Tuesday 17th April 2018
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Matthen said:
You don't get any ads with adblock...
You can, if the ads are served locally rather than using an ad provider.

CzechItOut

2,156 posts

221 months

Tuesday 17th April 2018
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D1ckie said:
At lunch time I open Facebook on my Mobile and there are adverts for the goods I was searching for earlier from the same retailer. Now I havent searched for these on my mobile so how does FB know I've been looking for these goods?
FB doesn't know you've been looking at those goods, but the retailer's sites does.

When you visit Facebook it sends a message to it's ad network saying "who wants to advertise to D1ckie (usually identifying you by your IP address)?". The retailer will take your IP address and look to see if it has any history for you. The retailer will see that you have been searching for flange widgets (even though you were using a different IP address) and reply to Facebook "yes please, show D1ckie this ad".

Now, you will have been browsing the retailer from different IP addresses, your work PC and your mobile. However, retailers will associate different IP addresses with your single account with that retailer, allowing them to join these two pieces of information.

If you want to see this in action go to Google's security settings and it will list all the IP addresses which have recently logged into your account.

D1ckie

Original Poster:

741 posts

220 months

Tuesday 17th April 2018
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Rojibo said:
Are you or have you ever logged into Facebook on the desktop PC?

They track your browsing, even after you log out.
Thanks

Yes maybe 2 weeks ago but I have IE set to delete history when I close down. Does that mean it still keeps some of my history and link it back to my FB account on my mobile?



D1ckie

Original Poster:

741 posts

220 months

Tuesday 17th April 2018
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MacW said:
Logged into Google on both devices? Browser and android phone for example?
Nope, and I always log out before I close down

D1ckie

Original Poster:

741 posts

220 months

Tuesday 17th April 2018
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Shakermaker said:
Hey there's always the slim chance that it could be a pure coincidence that you were the "target market" for the product you wanted and were therefore already going to see the advert for it because your profile matched enough of the criteria of people likely to be interested..
Definitely not, I was looking for something for home that I have never searched for before

D1ckie

Original Poster:

741 posts

220 months

Tuesday 17th April 2018
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CzechItOut said:
FB doesn't know you've been looking at those goods, but the retailer's sites does.

When you visit Facebook it sends a message to it's ad network saying "who wants to advertise to D1ckie (usually identifying you by your IP address)?". The retailer will take your IP address and look to see if it has any history for you. The retailer will see that you have been searching for flange widgets (even though you were using a different IP address) and reply to Facebook "yes please, show D1ckie this ad".

Now, you will have been browsing the retailer from different IP addresses, your work PC and your mobile. However, retailers will associate different IP addresses with your single account with that retailer, allowing them to join these two pieces of information.

If you want to see this in action go to Google's security settings and it will list all the IP addresses which have recently logged into your account.
Thanks, understood. So is it likely that my mobile linked via wifi to my work broadband tracks this?

Is this similar to when FB shows you people you may know, but you have no connection to but may have been at the same location / event as you?


DMN

3,059 posts

169 months

Tuesday 17th April 2018
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Gary29 said:
captain_cynic said:
Yet another reason I use adblock and ghostery. I cant imagine how unusable the web is without them.
The same. Apart from you get a couple of targeted ads in the banners, instead of a generic one.
There is no an addon for Firefox that runs Facebook in its own enclosed tab and stops it tracking whats going on in others. I'll try a remember what it is and post it when I get home.

sidekickdmr

5,211 posts

236 months

Tuesday 17th April 2018
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I have a weirder one than that, that I cant work out for the life of me.

I dont own a farm, never have, and have 0 need to google anything to do with calving.

Popped into the vets to pick up some treatment for my dog, this vets had a poster on the wall for Moo-call, this is a smart device that tells you when your cows are giving birth to your smartphone, it was such a odd and off the wall device that me and the wife briefly talked/joked about it, and I can assure you, if I had seen an advert for it before, I sure would have noticed it.

Half an hour later, back home, my facebook feed is covered in adverts for moo-call!

sinbaddio

2,864 posts

206 months

Tuesday 17th April 2018
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sidekickdmr said:
I have a weirder one than that, that I cant work out for the life of me.

I dont own a farm, never have, and have 0 need to google anything to do with calving.

Popped into the vets to pick up some treatment for my dog, this vets had a poster on the wall for Moo-call, this is a smart device that tells you when your cows are giving birth to your smartphone, it was such a odd and off the wall device that me and the wife briefly talked/joked about it, and I can assure you, if I had seen an advert for it before, I sure would have noticed it.

Half an hour later, back home, my facebook feed is covered in adverts for moo-call!
Similar thing. I was in the car and my son was asking me who made vans apart from the Ford Transit. I mentioned that Renault Trafic is quite a big seller in the UK. Next time I log into Facebook I'm inundated with adverts for Renault Trafic vans! (Ihave never owned or needed to own any van)

Wizard2

34 posts

107 months

Tuesday 17th April 2018
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sidekickdmr said:
I have a weirder one than that, that I cant work out for the life of me.

I dont own a farm, never have, and have 0 need to google anything to do with calving.

Popped into the vets to pick up some treatment for my dog, this vets had a poster on the wall for Moo-call, this is a smart device that tells you when your cows are giving birth to your smartphone, it was such a odd and off the wall device that me and the wife briefly talked/joked about it, and I can assure you, if I had seen an advert for it before, I sure would have noticed it.

Half an hour later, back home, my facebook feed is covered in adverts for moo-call!
Oh wow. Did either of you have a smartphone in your pocket at the time?

I've set my browser to always delete cookies/cache etc. upon closing, so I usually get ads based on the first couple of things I do on the internet. The other day, I connected my camera to my computer. That day I hadn't searched for or done anything to do with cameras online, although the first advert I saw after connecting my camera was for camera stabilisation devices. These can't be coincidences. I'm really interested in what extent these companies go to.

DaveGoddard

1,210 posts

175 months

Tuesday 17th April 2018
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sidekickdmr said:
I have a weirder one than that, that I cant work out for the life of me.

I dont own a farm, never have, and have 0 need to google anything to do with calving.

Popped into the vets to pick up some treatment for my dog, this vets had a poster on the wall for Moo-call, this is a smart device that tells you when your cows are giving birth to your smartphone, it was such a odd and off the wall device that me and the wife briefly talked/joked about it, and I can assure you, if I had seen an advert for it before, I sure would have noticed it.

Half an hour later, back home, my facebook feed is covered in adverts for moo-call!
This sort of thing has happened to me in the past - and I don't own a smartphone or a phone with any internet on it, nor was I near such a device at the time of the conversation.