Deactivated, vintage starter pistol... what to do?
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amongst my late Father in laws posessions is some sort of vintage starter pistol. I know very little about guns but you can cock it, and the trigger works, but the barrel is totally full of weld. I can't make out any of the markings on it.
A quick search on google found this, which looks a very similar model
https://www.gunseekers.co.uk/Ads-6095-South-East-O...
So my questions are
1) Is it legal? Some vintage firearms apparently are.
2) If legal, it worth selling? If so, where?
Obviously if it's illegal, it's getting cut in half and put in the bin.
Thanks in advance
A quick search on google found this, which looks a very similar model
https://www.gunseekers.co.uk/Ads-6095-South-East-O...
So my questions are
1) Is it legal? Some vintage firearms apparently are.
2) If legal, it worth selling? If so, where?
Obviously if it's illegal, it's getting cut in half and put in the bin.
Thanks in advance
I'm not 100% completely sure on this but I think its legal to own a deactivated gun, there are some new rules coming in but I don't know how that applies to old guns that are already deactivated or if you can get a new ticket on your gun.
It might be worth finding out before you destroy it, either a, you can keep it as it was your father in laws, or if its worth £150 like the one in the link you could perhaps sell it.
It might be worth finding out before you destroy it, either a, you can keep it as it was your father in laws, or if its worth £150 like the one in the link you could perhaps sell it.
I've a friend who has two deactivated guns.
One is a Dublin Castle Brown Bess musket whose flintlock still sparks like a good 'un. But it's been filled at the breech end of
the barrel with something solid - could be brass. The ramrod is too long now.
The other is a short magazine Lee Enfield whose bolt has been cut at 45 degrees at the firing pin end.
Thing is, this bloke will bring the guns along uncovered. Since armed response blew someone away when he was carrying
z lump of chair leg in a bin bag, I worry. You don't mess with Dibble when gins are involved.
One is a Dublin Castle Brown Bess musket whose flintlock still sparks like a good 'un. But it's been filled at the breech end of
the barrel with something solid - could be brass. The ramrod is too long now.
The other is a short magazine Lee Enfield whose bolt has been cut at 45 degrees at the firing pin end.
Thing is, this bloke will bring the guns along uncovered. Since armed response blew someone away when he was carrying
z lump of chair leg in a bin bag, I worry. You don't mess with Dibble when gins are involved.
You're correct, you can't list it on eBay. Not even a paintball gun is permitted on there.
I collect vintage deactivated, obsolete calibre and blank firing weapons. I think yours is a Flobert (Belgian) made Cyclists pistol. A cap gun (for warding off dogs !) marketed to long distance cyclists from around 1910. I'll buy it if the price is right. Its not worth much at all though and is a curio. It will live in a display cabinet with other oddities.
Let me know what you'd be happy with for it.
I can donate to your charity of choice if you prefer.
I collect vintage deactivated, obsolete calibre and blank firing weapons. I think yours is a Flobert (Belgian) made Cyclists pistol. A cap gun (for warding off dogs !) marketed to long distance cyclists from around 1910. I'll buy it if the price is right. Its not worth much at all though and is a curio. It will live in a display cabinet with other oddities.
Let me know what you'd be happy with for it.
I can donate to your charity of choice if you prefer.
davhill said:
I've a friend who has two deactivated guns.
One is a Dublin Castle Brown Bess musket whose flintlock still sparks like a good 'un. But it's been filled at the breech end of
the barrel with something solid - could be brass. The ramrod is too long now.
The other is a short magazine Lee Enfield whose bolt has been cut at 45 degrees at the firing pin end.
Thing is, this bloke will bring the guns along uncovered. Since armed response blew someone away when he was carrying
z lump of chair leg in a bin bag, I worry. You don't mess with Dibble when gins are involved.
Where does he bring them to ?One is a Dublin Castle Brown Bess musket whose flintlock still sparks like a good 'un. But it's been filled at the breech end of
the barrel with something solid - could be brass. The ramrod is too long now.
The other is a short magazine Lee Enfield whose bolt has been cut at 45 degrees at the firing pin end.
Thing is, this bloke will bring the guns along uncovered. Since armed response blew someone away when he was carrying
z lump of chair leg in a bin bag, I worry. You don't mess with Dibble when gins are involved.
davhill said:
You don't mess with Dibble when gins are involved.
You’re not wrong. Although with the ongoing saga of limb reconstruction and pretty much being off the booze due to being on about 40 or so tablets a day, I’ve still got two unopened bottles of rum from away last year, about a dozen bottles of wine and a couple of litres of gin in the flat. I’ve even got raspberry gin liqueur (one by Tiptree, one by Liverpool Gin) and a cherry Bakewell gin to go at...Surgery number eight on Tuesday...
Yup, it is legal to own a deactivated firearm. Get them from very odd places indeed, perfectly legally. Clarkson wrote about the AK47 in one of his books, I think it was 'you've got soul'. Design classic and could put it on the wall. Niggled away and went out with friends who were into Am Dram, they said you could get these as props.
On a Friday night after beer did a search and lo and behold they were right. Need a deactivated rifle, MG42, AK47 there they are. Credit card and beer is not a good mix. 5 days later the postman delivers a deactivated AK47 wrapped in cardboard. Fully kosher, Home Office cert of deactivation, fully welded breech etc.
It then dawns that NO, mounting it on the wall is a bloody stupid idea and likely to result in the loss of the front door by Mr plod. Now have to explain to pissed off wife why there is rifle under the desk
On a Friday night after beer did a search and lo and behold they were right. Need a deactivated rifle, MG42, AK47 there they are. Credit card and beer is not a good mix. 5 days later the postman delivers a deactivated AK47 wrapped in cardboard. Fully kosher, Home Office cert of deactivation, fully welded breech etc.
It then dawns that NO, mounting it on the wall is a bloody stupid idea and likely to result in the loss of the front door by Mr plod. Now have to explain to pissed off wife why there is rifle under the desk
davhill said:
I've a friend who has two deactivated guns.
One is a Dublin Castle Brown Bess musket whose flintlock still sparks like a good 'un. But it's been filled at the breech end of
the barrel with something solid - could be brass. The ramrod is too long now.
Seems odd to deactivate one of those, they're legal to own in working order without a licence aren't they?One is a Dublin Castle Brown Bess musket whose flintlock still sparks like a good 'un. But it's been filled at the breech end of
the barrel with something solid - could be brass. The ramrod is too long now.
KingNothing said:
davhill said:
I've a friend who has two deactivated guns.
One is a Dublin Castle Brown Bess musket whose flintlock still sparks like a good 'un. But it's been filled at the breech end of
the barrel with something solid - could be brass. The ramrod is too long now.
Seems odd to deactivate one of those, they're legal to own in working order without a licence aren't they?One is a Dublin Castle Brown Bess musket whose flintlock still sparks like a good 'un. But it's been filled at the breech end of
the barrel with something solid - could be brass. The ramrod is too long now.
layercake said:
KingNothing said:
davhill said:
I've a friend who has two deactivated guns.
One is a Dublin Castle Brown Bess musket whose flintlock still sparks like a good 'un. But it's been filled at the breech end of
the barrel with something solid - could be brass. The ramrod is too long now.
Seems odd to deactivate one of those, they're legal to own in working order without a licence aren't they?One is a Dublin Castle Brown Bess musket whose flintlock still sparks like a good 'un. But it's been filled at the breech end of
the barrel with something solid - could be brass. The ramrod is too long now.
I have a Yunker 4 in its original greasy plastic bag in its box straight from the Kalashnikov factory in Ishmash, Russia.
It's basically an AK74 training rifle with folding stock.
90% interchangeable with the real thing but will only fire .177 metal balls using a CO2 cartridge in the magazine.
I was in the process of buying an air rifle when the dealer showed it to me. Perfectly legal to own so I had to have it.
Obviously I can't take it anywhere as it'll mean instant SWAT arrival.
So it sits under my bed in perfect nick.
Maybe it's appreciating in value. They are no longer legal in the US, which is laughable considering you can easily buy a semi auto AK type rifle there.
It's basically an AK74 training rifle with folding stock.
90% interchangeable with the real thing but will only fire .177 metal balls using a CO2 cartridge in the magazine.
I was in the process of buying an air rifle when the dealer showed it to me. Perfectly legal to own so I had to have it.
Obviously I can't take it anywhere as it'll mean instant SWAT arrival.
So it sits under my bed in perfect nick.
Maybe it's appreciating in value. They are no longer legal in the US, which is laughable considering you can easily buy a semi auto AK type rifle there.
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