Civil Partnerships - Straight Couples

[br d]

Not sure where this should go.

All I can find is that in October last year it was decided this was going to be a thing. I can't find any timeline though. Anyone know when this will be introduced?

[Eric Mc]

There's no mad rush and other matters (such as Brexit) have kind of kicked it into the weeds.

[sc0tt]

I’m obviously not to clued up but if same sex marriage is available what is the difference between that and a civil partnership?

P.s are you out saturday br d?

[gregs656]

sc0tt said:

I’m obviously not to clued up but if same sex marriage is available what is the difference between that and a civil partnership?

P.s are you out saturday br d?

legally there is very little difference.

But I think some people just don't want the social or historically religious baggage that comes with a marriage, and see a civil partnership as offering that. I can see why, but it's currently only available to gay couples.

It costs next to nothing to 'convert' a civil partnership to a marriage.

[br d]

gregs656 said:

legally there is very little difference.

But I think some people just don't want the social or historically religious baggage that comes with a marriage, and see a civil partnership as offering that. I can see why, but it's currently only available to gay couples.

This exactly. Myself and my partner have been together for over 25 years, never wanted to marry, perfectly happy, no interest whatsoever in all the stuff that goes with a wedding. However, I have been the higher earner by some margin and the property, business and toys are all in my name, if I snuff it tomorrow she is going to be royally shafted by our wonderful overlords.

A civil partnership would sort that, bung a few quid in the coffers, sign a quick form, smile at the official and bobs your uncle.

[br d]

sc0tt said:

P.s are you out saturday br d?

Should be Scott, see you there.

[sc0tt]

br d said:

gregs656 said:

legally there is very little difference.

But I think some people just don't want the social or historically religious baggage that comes with a marriage, and see a civil partnership as offering that. I can see why, but it's currently only available to gay couples.

This exactly. Myself and my partner have been together for over 25 years, never wanted to marry, perfectly happy, no interest whatsoever in all the stuff that goes with a wedding. However, I have been the higher earner by some margin and the property, business and toys are all in my name, if I snuff it tomorrow she is going to be royally shafted by our wonderful overlords.

A civil partnership would sort that, bung a few quid in the coffers, sign a quick form, smile at the official and bobs your uncle.

Would a will not alleviate the issue?

[PF62]

sc0tt said:

br d said:

gregs656 said:

legally there is very little difference.

But I think some people just don't want the social or historically religious baggage that comes with a marriage, and see a civil partnership as offering that. I can see why, but it's currently only available to gay couples.

This exactly. Myself and my partner have been together for over 25 years, never wanted to marry, perfectly happy, no interest whatsoever in all the stuff that goes with a wedding. However, I have been the higher earner by some margin and the property, business and toys are all in my name, if I snuff it tomorrow she is going to be royally shafted by our wonderful overlords.

A civil partnership would sort that, bung a few quid in the coffers, sign a quick form, smile at the official and bobs your uncle.

Would a will not alleviate the issue?

Doesn't solve the tax issue.

[Bill]

I kinda get the whole wedding baggage thing being undesirable to some, but from a practical perspective why not just go to the registry office with two randoms off the street as witnesses and get it done. No need to tell anyone at all.

[Jasandjules]

br d said:

This exactly. Myself and my partner have been together for over 25 years, never wanted to marry, perfectly happy, no interest whatsoever in all the stuff that goes with a wedding. However, I have been the higher earner by some margin and the property, business and toys are all in my name, if I snuff it tomorrow she is going to be royally shafted by our wonderful overlords.

A civil partnership would sort that, bung a few quid in the coffers, sign a quick form, smile at the official and bobs your uncle.

Get down the Registry office with a few friends, go out for a meal afterwards. Job done.

[bingybongy]

Jasandjules said:

br d said:

This exactly. Myself and my partner have been together for over 25 years, never wanted to marry, perfectly happy, no interest whatsoever in all the stuff that goes with a wedding. However, I have been the higher earner by some margin and the property, business and toys are all in my name, if I snuff it tomorrow she is going to be royally shafted by our wonderful overlords.

A civil partnership would sort that, bung a few quid in the coffers, sign a quick form, smile at the official and bobs your uncle.

Get down the Registry office with a few friends, go out for a meal afterwards. Job done.

This.
It's how we dealt with the problem.

[GroundEffect]

Mazel tov Brad

[Teddy Lop]

Jasandjules said:

br d said:

This exactly. Myself and my partner have been together for over 25 years, never wanted to marry, perfectly happy, no interest whatsoever in all the stuff that goes with a wedding. However, I have been the higher earner by some margin and the property, business and toys are all in my name, if I snuff it tomorrow she is going to be royally shafted by our wonderful overlords.

A civil partnership would sort that, bung a few quid in the coffers, sign a quick form, smile at the official and bobs your uncle.

Get down the Registry office with a few friends, go out for a meal afterwards. Job done.

or go holiday to Vegas and get married by Elvis , or Barbados and get married on the beach, etc etc etc

[br d]

All good points re the registery office but neither of us has ever actually fancied being married as such. Probably sounds like semantics and maybe a little cold but a CP is just a legal doc while marriage is a "state".

Marriage, even via an RO, is still wedlock. Yuck!

The Taxman cometh though, something will need signing.

[Cold]

Not just the taxman, though. Should one of you end up in hospital the other will have no say in any treatment given/withheld no matter how long you've been a couple.
Daft situation really and the civil partnership would solve that.

[FurtiveFreddy]

I'm with br d.

This needs to be passed into law.

[singlecoil]

I can easily see why this won't be a priority, as civil partnerships are legally the same as marriage but for same sex couples. They were invented because marriage isn't available for same sex couples.

[gregs656]

singlecoil said:

I can easily see why this won't be a priority, as civil partnerships are legally the same as marriage but for same sex couples. They were invented because marriage isn't available for same sex couples.

Same sex marriage is available.

[Roman Moroni]

br d said:

gregs656 said:

legally there is very little difference.

But I think some people just don't want the social or historically religious baggage that comes with a marriage, and see a civil partnership as offering that. I can see why, but it's currently only available to gay couples.

This exactly. Myself and my partner have been together for over 25 years, never wanted to marry, perfectly happy, no interest whatsoever in all the stuff that goes with a wedding. However, I have been the higher earner by some margin and the property, business and toys are all in my name, if I snuff it tomorrow she is going to be royally shafted by our wonderful overlords.

A civil partnership would sort that, bung a few quid in the coffers, sign a quick form, smile at the official and bobs your uncle.

+1

We've been together 17 years, got the child, got the house, the mortgage, the cars etc etc. Neither of us want to marry. I've got friends that have married and divorced twice in the time we've been together. I'm committed to her and she to me

We can't wait for CP's to be legalised so we can get it sorted once & for all

[anonymous-user]

FurtiveFreddy said:

I'm with br d.

This needs to be passed into law.

Me too.

The original complaint brought to the High Court by Rebecca Steinfeld and Charles Keidan was that it was unfair to offer civil partnerships to same sex couples but not heterosexual couples, and I agree entirely.