Is this Racist
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PAULJ5555

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3,554 posts

206 months

Thursday 21st February 2019
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There have been lots of these debates popping up about people painting their face black/white in order to pose as a person of a different race. Is this racist.

I can understand if its done to undermine the race or poke fun but other situations its a celebration and not meant to put them down.

There are now even compaints about shoes because they have a black face and these have been pulled from the shops.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/newsbeat-47211111

Is this all getting out of hand or am I missing something (possible my history is not that great)

anonymous-user

84 months

Thursday 21st February 2019
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PAULJ5555 said:
There have been lots of these debates popping up about people painting their face black/white in order to pose as a person of a different race. Is this racist.

I can understand if its done to undermine the race or poke fun but other situations its a celebration and not meant to put them down.

There are now even compaints about shoes because they have a black face and these have been pulled from the shops.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/newsbeat-47211111

Is this all getting out of hand or am I missing something (possible my history is not that great)
First hit on google for 'blackface' explains why, if you care.

I'm currently making assumptions on why you posted this, here, rather than looking it up.

bigandclever

14,386 posts

268 months

Thursday 21st February 2019
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There is no way on God's green earth that you don't understand why blackface is unacceptable in a grown-up world.

j_4m

1,574 posts

94 months

Thursday 21st February 2019
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Depends on intent and context. Ali-G is a blackface character, but SBC manages to tread the line between harmless fun and being genuinely offensive quite carefully. Katy Perry's shoes aren't racist I feel, but they should be banned anyway because they're so fking ugly.

Classic black-and-white minstrel style face paint has its roots firmly in Jim Crow, that's why it's offensive.

Stella Tortoise

3,158 posts

173 months

Thursday 21st February 2019
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Michael Jackson got away with it for years.

PAULJ5555

Original Poster:

3,554 posts

206 months

Thursday 21st February 2019
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bigandclever said:
There is no way on God's green earth that you don't understand why blackface is unacceptable in a grown-up world.
I do understand where you are coming from but is it so in all situations. A Pair of shoes? There is not intent to undermine or poke fun.

Edited by PAULJ5555 on Thursday 21st February 15:36

anonymous-user

84 months

Thursday 21st February 2019
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PAULJ5555 said:
bigandclever said:
There is no way on God's green earth that you don't understand why blackface is unacceptable in a grown-up world.
I do understand where you are coming from but is it so in all situations. A Pair of shoes?
Here we go. We've gone from 'I genuinely don't know anything about this' to 'I know what it is, I'm just trying to justify something'.

Do you think 'I rape' on a shoe would be inoffensive? How about the N word? It's only a pair of shoes, as you say.

Drew106

1,652 posts

175 months

Thursday 21st February 2019
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j_4m said:
Depends on intent and context. Ali-G is a blackface character, but SBC manages to tread the line between harmless fun and being genuinely offensive quite carefully.
Isn't Ali G meant to be a "Wigga" character. Young white guy heavily influenced by "black" culture? I wouldn't consider that blackface.



PAULJ5555

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3,554 posts

206 months

Thursday 21st February 2019
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Badda said:
PAULJ5555 said:
bigandclever said:
There is no way on God's green earth that you don't understand why blackface is unacceptable in a grown-up world.
I do understand where you are coming from but is it so in all situations. A Pair of shoes?
Here we go. We've gone from 'I genuinely don't know anything about this' to 'I know what it is, I'm just trying to justify something'.

Do you think 'I rape' on a shoe would be inoffensive? How about the N word? It's only a pair of shoes, as you say.
But they dont do they.

Read the OP properly.




Edited by PAULJ5555 on Thursday 21st February 16:02

So

28,176 posts

252 months

Thursday 21st February 2019
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PAULJ5555 said:
There have been lots of these debates popping up about people painting their face black/white in order to pose as a person of a different race. Is this racist.

I can understand if its done to undermine the race or poke fun but other situations its a celebration and not meant to put them down.

There are now even compaints about shoes because they have a black face and these have been pulled from the shops.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/newsbeat-47211111

Is this all getting out of hand or am I missing something (possible my history is not that great)
You ignorant fool.

The black version of the shoe is a direct reference to when white people used to imprison black people, before hollowing them out and turning them into shoes.

The pink version is just a pink shoe with a face on it.


Johnnytheboy

24,499 posts

216 months

Thursday 21st February 2019
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Everything is racist.

/thread

BigMacDaddy

967 posts

211 months

Thursday 21st February 2019
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So said:
You ignorant fool.

The black version of the shoe is a direct reference to when white people used to imprison black people, before hollowing them out and turning them into shoes.

The pink version is just a pink shoe with a face on it.
laugh

g3org3y

22,479 posts

221 months

Thursday 21st February 2019
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So said:
You ignorant fool.

The black version of the shoe is a direct reference to when white people used to imprison black people, before hollowing them out and turning them into shoes.

The pink version is just a pink shoe with a face on it.
Genuine LOL. hehe

98elise

32,633 posts

191 months

Thursday 21st February 2019
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Drew106 said:
j_4m said:
Depends on intent and context. Ali-G is a blackface character, but SBC manages to tread the line between harmless fun and being genuinely offensive quite carefully.
Isn't Ali G meant to be a "Wigga" character. Young white guy heavily influenced by "black" culture? I wouldn't consider that blackface.
Yes, the character was a white guy Identifying as black when he clearly wasn't. It was taking the piss out white people.

If his skin looked darker its more likely to be his heritage rather than blackface make-up.


SlimJim16v

8,117 posts

173 months

Thursday 21st February 2019
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It depends, are they white shoes and one has been blacked up, or are they black shoes and one has been whited up?

magooagain

13,504 posts

200 months

Thursday 21st February 2019
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Seriously. I don't have a notion what any of the above posts are on about.

Lemming Train

5,567 posts

102 months

Thursday 21st February 2019
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magooagain said:
Seriously. I don't have a notion what any of the above posts are on about.
It should be in the 'people who are perma-offended' thread.

alorotom

12,787 posts

217 months

Thursday 21st February 2019
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Lemming Train said:
magooagain said:
Seriously. I don't have a notion what any of the above posts are on about.
It should be in the 'people who are perma-offended' thread.
YES YES YES ... This!

98elise

32,633 posts

191 months

Thursday 21st February 2019
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98elise said:
Yes, the character was a white guy Identifying as black when he clearly wasn't. It was taking the piss out of white people.

If his skin looked darker its more likely to be his heritage rather than blackface make-up.