North Norfolk new builds
Discussion
Just spent a week up in North Norfolk. Been to the Broads loads of times right back to when my dad took me and my brothers, up to me taking my lot on boats last year.
Never been to North Norfolk and have to say what a lovely part of the world, helped by no rain at all last week. Did loads of walking and amazing to walk up to the seals basking on the beach at Horsey Gap.
What we found shocking though, was the number of new build estates on the edge of most of the villages and towns. Some already lived in and loads being built.
My question is?
What on earth do all these people do? Surely they don't commute to London? Some of the pricing would suggest that one would need a decent wage to get a mortgage.
Just wondered if anyone that lives in the area could enlighten me. Cheers.
Never been to North Norfolk and have to say what a lovely part of the world, helped by no rain at all last week. Did loads of walking and amazing to walk up to the seals basking on the beach at Horsey Gap.
What we found shocking though, was the number of new build estates on the edge of most of the villages and towns. Some already lived in and loads being built.
My question is?
What on earth do all these people do? Surely they don't commute to London? Some of the pricing would suggest that one would need a decent wage to get a mortgage.
Just wondered if anyone that lives in the area could enlighten me. Cheers.
Greater Anglia trains are planing a ‘Norwich in ninety’ non stop train service into Liverpool Street come the new trains and timetable so it is a feasible commute (not that I’d do it though!).
Property is reasonably priced for London refugees and you get a lot more for the money so a crappy commute may be worth doing if it means coming home to a detached 4 bed rather than a pokey 2 bed flat.
And it’s not just Norwich, new build estates are popping like mushrooms all along the main roads and rail lines into London in Essex and Suffolk.
Property is reasonably priced for London refugees and you get a lot more for the money so a crappy commute may be worth doing if it means coming home to a detached 4 bed rather than a pokey 2 bed flat.
And it’s not just Norwich, new build estates are popping like mushrooms all along the main roads and rail lines into London in Essex and Suffolk.
Plenty of big towns in Norfolk to support employment...Norwich, Cromer, Yarmouth, Lowestoft, Kings Lynn, Thetford...Just like anywhere else in the UK.
Not far from Ipswich, colchester either, and also London from South Norfolk on the train isn't actually too bad (hence why Suffolk is expensive).
They won't be earning 6-figures in banking roles, but then they aren't paying 400k for a 1-bed either.
North Norfolk is the most expensive part too so not representative of the county. A lot of second-home ownership.
Not far from Ipswich, colchester either, and also London from South Norfolk on the train isn't actually too bad (hence why Suffolk is expensive).
They won't be earning 6-figures in banking roles, but then they aren't paying 400k for a 1-bed either.
North Norfolk is the most expensive part too so not representative of the county. A lot of second-home ownership.
If I could give up my well paid London job (Yet struggles to afford the rent on a 2 bedroom flat) to be able to live and work in North Norfolk, I think I would.
Unfortunately my job isn't transferable but if I could afford somewhere and work in a shop, it's tempting.
Sod the commute though. Lived out in Surrey and worked in London and it was hard to beat 2 hours door to door each way. 4 hours a day commuting
At first I thought it was worth it but after 2 years I had had enough and moved back to London.
Looking at some of the villages I saw up in Norfolk, I'm guessing an hour to Norwich before one even starts on the London bound trip.
Unfortunately my job isn't transferable but if I could afford somewhere and work in a shop, it's tempting.
Sod the commute though. Lived out in Surrey and worked in London and it was hard to beat 2 hours door to door each way. 4 hours a day commuting
At first I thought it was worth it but after 2 years I had had enough and moved back to London.
Looking at some of the villages I saw up in Norfolk, I'm guessing an hour to Norwich before one even starts on the London bound trip.
Ask the locals if they're buying one. You'll get a pretty firm and unrepeatable reply. It's like all rural areas, the local people are priced out of it and have to live with parents or rent bedsits. It won't be farm labourers buying them that's for sure.
I can't afford to move back to my native Norfolk. I never thought that would happen - at least things are affordable here in Ulster.
I can't afford to move back to my native Norfolk. I never thought that would happen - at least things are affordable here in Ulster.
croyde said:
If I could give up my well paid London job (Yet struggles to afford the rent on a 2 bedroom flat) to be able to live and work in North Norfolk, I think I would.
Unfortunately my job isn't transferable but if I could afford somewhere and work in a shop, it's tempting.
Sod the commute though. Lived out in Surrey and worked in London and it was hard to beat 2 hours door to door each way. 4 hours a day commuting
At first I thought it was worth it but after 2 years I had had enough and moved back to London.
Looking at some of the villages I saw up in Norfolk, I'm guessing an hour to Norwich before one even starts on the London bound trip.
That's pretty much what I've done.Unfortunately my job isn't transferable but if I could afford somewhere and work in a shop, it's tempting.
Sod the commute though. Lived out in Surrey and worked in London and it was hard to beat 2 hours door to door each way. 4 hours a day commuting
At first I thought it was worth it but after 2 years I had had enough and moved back to London.
Looking at some of the villages I saw up in Norfolk, I'm guessing an hour to Norwich before one even starts on the London bound trip.
Gave up work, sold a 3 bed semi on a good sized plot on the outskirts of Maidstone and moved to South Norfolk.
Bought a 3 bed detached house and cleared off my mortgage.
Roo said:
croyde said:
If I could give up my well paid London job (Yet struggles to afford the rent on a 2 bedroom flat) to be able to live and work in North Norfolk, I think I would.
Unfortunately my job isn't transferable but if I could afford somewhere and work in a shop, it's tempting.
Sod the commute though. Lived out in Surrey and worked in London and it was hard to beat 2 hours door to door each way. 4 hours a day commuting
At first I thought it was worth it but after 2 years I had had enough and moved back to London.
Looking at some of the villages I saw up in Norfolk, I'm guessing an hour to Norwich before one even starts on the London bound trip.
That's pretty much what I've done.Unfortunately my job isn't transferable but if I could afford somewhere and work in a shop, it's tempting.
Sod the commute though. Lived out in Surrey and worked in London and it was hard to beat 2 hours door to door each way. 4 hours a day commuting
At first I thought it was worth it but after 2 years I had had enough and moved back to London.
Looking at some of the villages I saw up in Norfolk, I'm guessing an hour to Norwich before one even starts on the London bound trip.
Gave up work, sold a 3 bed semi on a good sized plot on the outskirts of Maidstone and moved to South Norfolk.
Bought a 3 bed detached house and cleared off my mortgage.
croyde said:
Hello there. I remember when you gave me Crown Victoria advice (I think). Did you end up taking on a much less stressful and lower paid job in the end?
Yes, that was me.I got made redundant in April 2014 after doing six day weeks for twenty five years.
Pottered around and had a rest. Then redecorated the house and due to family reasons for my wife moved here in April 2017.
Oversaw getting work done on this house and then completely redecorated.
I took on a job in July last year but couldn't stand it so packed it in at New Year.
So not doing anything at the moment.
Alucidnation said:
There are a huge amount of new builds going up in our area at the moment.
We are doing most of them and making an absolute killing.
Most of the estates I see being thrown up look like a suburban hell.We are doing most of them and making an absolute killing.
A foot between "detached" houses, limited parking, dubious workmanship and poor quality.
That doesn't stop them queing up to buy though ( and pay the new build premium which could see the "owners" in negative equity if they decide to sell after a few years).
Madness.
Edited by Red 4 on Saturday 13th April 18:04
Red 4 said:
Alucidnation said:
There are a huge amount of new builds going up in our area at the moment.
We are doing most of them and making an absolute killing.
Most of the estates I see being thrown up look like a suburban hell.We are doing most of them and making an absolute killing.
A foot between "detached" houses, limited parking, dubious workmanship and poor quality.
That doesn't stop them queing up to buy though ( and pay the new build premium which could see the "owners" in negative equity if they decide to sell after a few years).
Madness.
Edited by Red 4 on Saturday 13th April 18:04
konark said:
And don't forget 'Fleecehold' and being made to pay £300 per annum for the verges to be cut twice a year..
... And ground rents that double every 10 years, being charged to make improvements/ alterations to "your" property, and some mortgage lenders being unwilling to lend on some leasehold properties ( with dodgy ground rent clauses ).There's a new development a near to me ... 3/4/5 bed detached houses built on a flood plain, sandwiched between a railway line and an Army rifle range (who appear to like the smell of napalm in the morning - lots of noise from live fire exercises ! ).
No shortage of people wanting to buy though ... Just hope you're not too close to the social housing lot ...
In South Norfolk here. I live in a small town (Wymondham if anyone knows it) and they've thrown up 4 new estates in the 4 years I've been here, plus seeking planning permission for another 620 houses.
All the locals are complaining that these developers are getting permission based on building associated facilities like schools for all the new people, except when the last house is built there's mysteriously no money for a school/shops/leisure facility...
I never thought I'd become a NIMBY type but you can tell the difference. When it was a trickle moving into existing older properties like I did, you kind of had to adapt to the town, which was very nice and had a community feel. Now there's so many people arriving at once a little of that niceness seems to have gone.
I think it's time for the government to start seriously looking into building new towns again. Existing places can keep their identity and all that acreage from patchwork expansion clumped together with proper facilities in one place.
All the locals are complaining that these developers are getting permission based on building associated facilities like schools for all the new people, except when the last house is built there's mysteriously no money for a school/shops/leisure facility...
I never thought I'd become a NIMBY type but you can tell the difference. When it was a trickle moving into existing older properties like I did, you kind of had to adapt to the town, which was very nice and had a community feel. Now there's so many people arriving at once a little of that niceness seems to have gone.
I think it's time for the government to start seriously looking into building new towns again. Existing places can keep their identity and all that acreage from patchwork expansion clumped together with proper facilities in one place.
crofty1984 said:
I never thought I'd become a NIMBY type but you can tell the difference. When it was a trickle moving into existing older properties like I did, you kind of had to adapt to the town, which was very nice and had a community feel. Now there's so many people arriving at once a little of that niceness seems to have gone.
I think it's time for the government to start seriously looking into building new towns again. Existing places can keep their identity and all that acreage from patchwork expansion clumped together with proper facilities in one place.
I find the psychology of new towns fascinating. They never, ever seem to take off or become desirable. There's something innate in humans that favours places that have sprung up organically rather than the enforced. I think it's time for the government to start seriously looking into building new towns again. Existing places can keep their identity and all that acreage from patchwork expansion clumped together with proper facilities in one place.
Even the most ambitious attempts like Brasilia wind up sitting there like a lonely turd at sunset.
Round my way in Devon there's Cranbrook which is the first wholly new settlement there since medieval times. It's got a smattering of everything you need but it still feels like the set of a cruddy soap opera rather than a place where your descendants will still be thriving in a century.
All along the M5 from Exeter upwards they're developing like mad and doing nothing to address the cloggage it brings.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-coventry-war...
This one's still going up. Helps SOA commitments, despite a JLR slowdown.
This one's still going up. Helps SOA commitments, despite a JLR slowdown.
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