50% of the population are of below average intelligence
50% of the population are of below average intelligence
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mattnovak

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338 posts

132 months

Thursday 2nd May 2019
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What-ho, fellow PH'er's!

I was born and raised in Dagenham, Essex. This makes me uniquely (in so far as that descriptor applies) positioned to have a good ol' cockney stab at dressing down my peers.

As a fairly recent convert to social media; I was amazed at how many of my peers spend a great deal of their life managing their external image. Perhaps that last sentence belongs in the 'council' thread?

Anyway. The above said (it was a 3 bottles kinda lunch); what are your collective thoughts around average intelligence?

Best,

Matt




Cotty

42,244 posts

314 months

Thursday 2nd May 2019
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mattnovak said:
(it was a 3 bottles kinda lunch);
Beer or wine?

SlimRick

2,277 posts

195 months

Thursday 2nd May 2019
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I don't understand the question.

antspants

2,402 posts

205 months

Thursday 2nd May 2019
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2 replies (not including mine), 1 doesn't understand the question, OP you're right it's conclusive.

Spare tyre

12,569 posts

160 months

Thursday 2nd May 2019
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Females innit?

Kewy

1,464 posts

124 months

Thursday 2nd May 2019
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SlimRick said:
I don't understand the question.
Have a guess at what 50% you're in.

bigandclever

14,381 posts

268 months

Thursday 2nd May 2019
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Lobbing random semicolons around puts you in a particular half.

Frank7

6,619 posts

117 months

Thursday 2nd May 2019
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mattnovak said:
What-ho, fellow PH'er's!

I was born and raised in Dagenham, Essex. This makes me uniquely (in so far as that descriptor applies) positioned to have a good ol' cockney stab at dressing down my peers.

As a fairly recent convert to social media; I was amazed at how many of my peers spend a great deal of their life managing their external image. Perhaps that last sentence belongs in the 'council' thread?

Anyway. The above said (it was a 3 bottles kinda lunch); what are your collective thoughts around average intelligence?

Best,

Matt
With the best will in the world Matt, if you were born and raised in Dagenham, Essex, you’re self elevating yourself beyond your wildest dreams if you think that you can have a Cockney stab at anything.
You can have a Corned Beef City stab if you wish, as when the council estates of Dagenham and Becontree first went up, the urban myth began, that the residents were so poor, they could only afford corned beef.
As for the original question, I was tempted to say that it’s more like more than 50%, but on second thought, I’ll go with 50%.

DaveTheRave87

2,155 posts

119 months

Thursday 2nd May 2019
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bigandclever said:
Lobbing random; semicolons around puts you in; a particular half.
FTFY

LimaDelta

8,499 posts

248 months

Thursday 2nd May 2019
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It's more like a standard deviation curve with most tending towards the mean. There are those who are very smart at one end, and those who are not at the other, but the majority are very close to the middle.



Kewy

1,464 posts

124 months

Thursday 2nd May 2019
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LimaDelta said:
It's more like a standard deviation curve with most tending towards the mean. There are those who are very smart at one end, and those who are not at the other, but the majority are very close to the middle.

FTFY

LimaDelta

8,499 posts

248 months

Thursday 2nd May 2019
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Kewy said:
LimaDelta said:
It's more like a standard deviation curve with most tending towards the mean. There are those who are very smart at one end, and those who are not at the other, but the majority are very close to the middle.

FTFY
Very good hehe

TriumphStag3.0V8

5,480 posts

111 months

Thursday 2nd May 2019
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Surely by the very defenition of an average..... 50% would be below it and 50% therefore would be above it.....

Assuming of course that the measure of "average" is based on population rather than an IQ "target"

LimaDelta

8,499 posts

248 months

Thursday 2nd May 2019
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TriumphStag3.0V8 said:
Surely by the very defenition of an average..... 50% would be below it and 50% therefore would be above it.....

Assuming of course that the measure of "average" is based on population rather than an IQ "target"
Yes, kind of. But it is not a straight line, it's a curve as above. Think of height instead of intelligence. Most people are of average height, some are tall, some are really tall. There are not the same number of really tall people as there are people of average height.

50% of the population are less than average intelligence, but 68% to 95% of the population are about average intelligence. And of course, that all depends on how one measures intelligence in the first place. You could say that between 68 and 95% of people are 'normal'. The rest are either really smart, or really not.

dartissimus

954 posts

204 months

Thursday 2nd May 2019
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How smart is the average bear ?

Mort7

1,489 posts

138 months

Thursday 2nd May 2019
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dartissimus said:
How smart is the average bear ?
Not as smart as Yogi.

BBC give a breakdown here:- http://www.bbc.co.uk/testthenation/iq_norms.shtml

World rankings here:- https://brainstats.com/average-iq-by-country.html

Unfortunately, stupid people tend to have stupid children, and they also tend to have larger families, so the UK trend is probably downward.

ambuletz

11,754 posts

211 months

Thursday 2nd May 2019
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IMO that curve is more like this.



too many stupid people nowadays. it's made worse by the fact that stupid people have easier access to things. like the internet, phones, social media.

Dr Jekyll

23,820 posts

291 months

Thursday 2nd May 2019
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TriumphStag3.0V8 said:
Surely by the very defenition of an average..... 50% would be below it and 50% therefore would be above it.....

Assuming of course that the measure of "average" is based on population rather than an IQ "target"
That's only the definition of median average. Using mean average there can be far more one side than the other, EG the mean average number of legs for a person is just under 2, most people have more than that.

J4CKO

46,839 posts

230 months

Thursday 2nd May 2019
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Intelligence takes many forms, I have know certifiable geniuses based on IQ numbers who are spectacularly clueless at various things and some right thickos who have some skills in other areas.

IQ tests are a very clumsy way to categorise intelligence, and you can with time, get better scores by practising.


Some kind of a referendum is a much better way to work out who is stupid biggrin


sparkyhx

4,200 posts

234 months

Thursday 2nd May 2019
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Dr Jekyll said:
TriumphStag3.0V8 said:
Surely by the very defenition of an average..... 50% would be below it and 50% therefore would be above it.....

Assuming of course that the measure of "average" is based on population rather than an IQ "target"
That's only the definition of median average. Using mean average there can be far more one side than the other, EG the mean average number of legs for a person is just under 2, most people have more than that.
Mode would likely be 2, median would likely be 2, mean would be 1.x

so average depends on which one you choose. Assuming the OP is referring to the mean, then by definition as someone pointed out 50% below average 50% above, assuming nobody falls exactly on the mean.


Edited by sparkyhx on Thursday 2nd May 19:33