All gender toilets.
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28,176 posts

251 months

Monday 3rd June 2019
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Spotted in an NHS place locally.

What is wrong with just “toilets”?

Or am I out of touch and a dinosaur?

daddy cool

4,107 posts

258 months

Monday 3rd June 2019
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and who wears half a dress???

Shakermaker

11,317 posts

129 months

Monday 3rd June 2019
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So said:
Spotted in an NHS place locally.

What is wrong with just “toilets”?

Or am I out of touch and a dinosaur?
Nothing wrong with "Toilets" but maybe, and this is speculation, having the sign specifically saying "all gender toilets" will mean that people are not left confused if they see someone walking out. Avoids that "oh, have I walked into the ladies by mistake?" scenario that happens occasionally?

Hoofy

80,053 posts

311 months

Monday 3rd June 2019
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Shakermaker said:
Nothing wrong with "Toilets" but maybe, and this is speculation, having the sign specifically saying "all gender toilets" will mean that people are not left confused if they see someone walking out. Avoids that "oh, have I walked into the ladies by mistake?" scenario that happens occasionally?
I've used toilets in hospitals that are just marked "Toilet", seen a woman (or trans?) exit and never thought, "That's the ladies."

227bhp

10,203 posts

157 months

Monday 3rd June 2019
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daddy cool said:
and who wears half a dress???
Someone who is half and half? An Arthur and a Martha.
Made me chuckle, i've never seen that symbol before.

GeneralSinn

12,782 posts

216 months

Monday 3rd June 2019
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Probably the result of a new appointment to the trust role in equality and diversity. They’ll have undertaken an EQIA and flagged that all persons regardless of all protected and unprotected characteristics are impacted equally and rather than take the logical approach of a “toilet” sign, and to avoid all potential confusion, went for a totally inclusive sign instead.

Waste of taxpayer money imho (and that’s from a [albeit interim] trust exec)

GAjon

4,083 posts

242 months

Monday 3rd June 2019
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The money would be better spent on keeping the places clean rather than signs,
I couldn’t believe how bad the condition of the toilets were last time I was at a Hospital.

Cold

16,689 posts

119 months

Monday 3rd June 2019
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This is just a ruse to reduce the queues at the women's toilets.

selym

9,581 posts

200 months

Monday 3rd June 2019
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daddy cool said:
and who wears half a dress???
Someone nursing an erection, and that's why these toilets might be a bad idea!

bristolbaron

5,375 posts

241 months

Monday 3rd June 2019
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Ha! Half a dress, brilliant. I’m not sure those that are angry and don’t know why are going to be appeased by that.
These make perfect sense though -

sparkythecat

8,097 posts

284 months

Monday 3rd June 2019
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daddy cool said:
and who wears half a dress???
Ronnie Barker in his sketch about the Ministry of Sexual Equality



https://youtu.be/js5-OsdvqTY

Gary29

5,213 posts

128 months

Monday 3rd June 2019
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As a percentage, how many people in the UK population identify as anything other than male or female do we think?

I'm guessing a very small percentage, yet another way to spunk tax payer money up the wall, literally.

What is wrong with the term 'Unisex'?

Bear-n

1,956 posts

111 months

Monday 3rd June 2019
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I wished they'd called them gender fluid toilets.

wisbech

4,217 posts

150 months

Monday 3rd June 2019
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Yep - unisex toilets are standard on aircraft/ trains etc. No one bats an eyelid.


227bhp

10,203 posts

157 months

Monday 3rd June 2019
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Gary29 said:
As a percentage, how many people in the UK population identify as anything other than male or female do we think?

I'm guessing a very small percentage, yet another way to spunk tax payer money up the wall, literally.

What is wrong with the term 'Unisex'?
I'm not really seeing how any extra money has been spent here? In fact, money has been saved.

Gary29

5,213 posts

128 months

Monday 3rd June 2019
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227bhp said:
I'm not really seeing how any extra money has been spent here? In fact, money has been saved.
Well unless this is a brand new NHS facility (I'm presuming it's not?) then they have spent money on making a new sign and putting it up, which probably took a team of 10 people six months to agree on the design of, when there was more than likely a sign there before that read 'Toilets' that was perfectly acceptable to everyone, and everyone just got on with their lives.

I get the idea of Unisex toilets used to save money, although I don't agree with the principle, but that's another debate!

Shuvi McTupya

24,460 posts

276 months

Monday 3rd June 2019
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227bhp said:
daddy cool said:
and who wears half a dress???
Someone who is half and half? An Arthur and a Martha.
Made me chuckle, i've never seen that symbol before.
Looks like a man carrying a small sheet of plywood under his arm to me.

Rawwr

22,722 posts

263 months

Monday 3rd June 2019
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Gary29 said:
I get the idea of Unisex toilets used to save money, although I don't agree with the principle...
Go on.

wisbech

4,217 posts

150 months

Monday 3rd June 2019
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Gary29 said:
I get the idea of Unisex toilets used to save money, although I don't agree with the principle, but that's another debate!
My wife gets annoyed when I don’t put the seat down - but she wouldn’t insist on a separate toilet.

Gary29

5,213 posts

128 months

Monday 3rd June 2019
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Rawwr said:
Go on.
I don't like the idea of strange men in the same space as my missus / daughter / mum / female friends / any females for that matter. Personally I think unisex toilets just add to the opportunity for weirdos to be weird and make women and children (and other men in some cases) feel uncomfortable.

Nothing wrong with separate toilets for men and women in my opinion, and if your gender is not clear, then just pick one and use that toilet.