Is it possible to buy a more expensive waste bin?
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A platoon of these chaps have arrived in my local park.
The internet suggests they are around £4,000 each plus installation and ongoing maintenance costs.
Seems they compact the rubbish thus reducing the frequency of bin emptying thus potentially saving costs for the council.
Does anyone have these in their vicinity or any real world cost saving data please?
The internet suggests they are around £4,000 each plus installation and ongoing maintenance costs.
Seems they compact the rubbish thus reducing the frequency of bin emptying thus potentially saving costs for the council.
Does anyone have these in their vicinity or any real world cost saving data please?
They will also transmit how full they are to the council, so they will only be emptied when full. This saves a lot of cost in having council workers visiting each bin to check how full they are, or needlessly emptying a bin which isn't even nearly full. So, significant savings in staff costs plus vehicle costs. I don't have the total savings to hand, but they generally do save money over a reasonable period of time.
Hopefully the council will have negotiated a bit of a bulk buy discount too, so each bin will have cost less than you quoted.
Hopefully the council will have negotiated a bit of a bulk buy discount too, so each bin will have cost less than you quoted.
Found one example- https://www.brixhamtowncouncil.gov.uk/data/uploads...
That's for the Big Belly bins, which also compact the waste and communicate with the collection authority. Bins are leased too.
That's for the Big Belly bins, which also compact the waste and communicate with the collection authority. Bins are leased too.
StuTheGrouch said:
Found one example- https://www.brixhamtowncouncil.gov.uk/data/uploads...
That's for the Big Belly bins, which also compact the waste and communicate with the collection authority. Bins are leased too.
Thanks for that - some interesting assumptions.That's for the Big Belly bins, which also compact the waste and communicate with the collection authority. Bins are leased too.
I see they have reduced head count to 1 man. Then ask said man to empty a bin containing around 4.5 times as much mass?
I'd still like to see some actual accounts
softtop said:
The reduction in collections is about eight times that of a conventional bin. Costs are based on your local labour. If you then factor in visiting them only if they need emptying then you make savings on route planning and vehicle costs
And you'd need to factor in the 'value adding' of the aforementioned labour as they'll now be prioritised on more important issues within the borough therefore delivering an increased return on the labour cost p4cks said:
StuTheGrouch said:
Hopefully the council will have negotiated a bit of a bulk buy discount too, so each bin will have cost less than you quoted.
I wish I had the same confidence about my local council as you do about yours 
We have similar looking bins local to us, foot pedal for opening, I think they have a solar panel on the top but can't recall.
No idea they indicated when full though, clever stuff although seriously expensive. I suspect over a long period they work out to be more efficient in terms of the overall process!
No idea they indicated when full though, clever stuff although seriously expensive. I suspect over a long period they work out to be more efficient in terms of the overall process!
No pleasing some poeple!
Option 1 - Don't innovate, spend taxpayers money inefficiently emptying bins and therefore neglect potholes or a park - "council are w
kers."
Option 2 - Bring the innovation, save money and redirect budget to something that adds value - "they took our jeeerbs! Council are wkers."
Personally, I'm glad that they're trying to economise on pure cost things that add no value, in the hope that they can redirect it to areas that bring benefit.
Option 1 - Don't innovate, spend taxpayers money inefficiently emptying bins and therefore neglect potholes or a park - "council are w
kers."Option 2 - Bring the innovation, save money and redirect budget to something that adds value - "they took our jeeerbs! Council are w
kers."Personally, I'm glad that they're trying to economise on pure cost things that add no value, in the hope that they can redirect it to areas that bring benefit.
StevieBee said:
Smart Bins! They're becoming more and more popular. Aside from waste compaction, they sense fill levels and measure temperatures to alert to the risk of fire. The data is fed into a platform that not only advises the council on the bins that need emptying but the optimal routing for the collection vehicles. We're working with a Spanish company that's developed one that identifies what items are being placed in the bin and separating them out into different compartments within the bin. They are very cost-effective.
Until the "platform" gets hacked, or the company running it goes bust or stops maintaining it, at which point you've got a £4K stupid bin. Maybe it saves enough money before that happens. See also Smart Meters...outnumbered said:
StevieBee said:
Smart Bins! They're becoming more and more popular. Aside from waste compaction, they sense fill levels and measure temperatures to alert to the risk of fire. The data is fed into a platform that not only advises the council on the bins that need emptying but the optimal routing for the collection vehicles. We're working with a Spanish company that's developed one that identifies what items are being placed in the bin and separating them out into different compartments within the bin. They are very cost-effective.
Until the "platform" gets hacked, or the company running it goes bust or stops maintaining it, at which point you've got a £4K stupid bin. Maybe it saves enough money before that happens. See also Smart Meters...While we're at it, let's return to corded telephones and a four-channel TV system as I'd hate to be mid series when Netflix gets hacked or goes bust.
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