Social distancing hypocrisy
Discussion
Doing my head in today
Tesco, you can wander around (or rather squeeze around) everyone else out shopping, chatting in the aisles, etc yet when you get to the check out, there's a tape across the floor that you aren't to cross until the customer in front has cleared their station
Lidl, they've closed the fresh bread section (always wondered about the hygene of that) and every alternate self check out till is closed to keep customers two metres away from each other, yet again they pass each other in the aisles and then queue next to each other while they wait for a self service till to become available.
Aldi, sense prevails, business as usual.
Now all three have customers picking up stuff, looking and placing back on shelves etc does that not risk transfer of whatever?
Bus and train services are being cut back so if people do travel by public transport they'll be more crowded. Even if the bus is only half full, the passengers are sitting next to each other.
Tesco, you can wander around (or rather squeeze around) everyone else out shopping, chatting in the aisles, etc yet when you get to the check out, there's a tape across the floor that you aren't to cross until the customer in front has cleared their station
Lidl, they've closed the fresh bread section (always wondered about the hygene of that) and every alternate self check out till is closed to keep customers two metres away from each other, yet again they pass each other in the aisles and then queue next to each other while they wait for a self service till to become available.
Aldi, sense prevails, business as usual.
Now all three have customers picking up stuff, looking and placing back on shelves etc does that not risk transfer of whatever?
Bus and train services are being cut back so if people do travel by public transport they'll be more crowded. Even if the bus is only half full, the passengers are sitting next to each other.
Does seem silly, I'm working for as long as permitted, I drive to sites with one or two other people on them usually in a different room, have materials delivered to site (although did have to get in one trade counter early before anyone else the other day), the most risky thing I've done all week was probably pop in the co-op on the way home yesterday.
It tells me there is only one solution coming and that is a lockdown
I dropped my other half at work this morning (a supermarket) and the thing that strikes me is the amount of elderly (70+) that are congregating are supermarkets and very close to all other age groups.
I’m not sure if the fully scale of the virus is being appreciated by many in society.
I dropped my other half at work this morning (a supermarket) and the thing that strikes me is the amount of elderly (70+) that are congregating are supermarkets and very close to all other age groups.
I’m not sure if the fully scale of the virus is being appreciated by many in society.
andymc said:
Couldn’t agree more, i drove past my local shopping centre and it’s as if nothing has happened
Were stuck in the house for another week. In laws were going to the shop early to get some bits, said they'd pick up some bits for us too. In the end, eggs were hard to come by, so they went to Morissons, M&S, Booths, and the market.
They still refuse to keep their distance. Her dad is caretaker of a local school, and has absolutely no intention of stopping that.
We're not venturing far at present, just the the corner shop. En route we sometimes come across Daniel, a special needs adult who is totally harmless but, as he's a big chap, can be intimidating if you don't know him. For the last couple of days Daniel has been walking round with a two-metre long garden cane which he uses to keep everyone at the recommended distance apart. Perhaps we should all get a 'Daniel stick'.
Ms 16v had a customer in her shop yesterday who was old enough to have been self isolating. When asked why she was out, said she lived in a care home and was bored. After she left one of the staff said that was the care home her mum was in. Unf
king believable.
We're fkd and only a compulsory lock down will get through to
s like this.
Oh, she's sensibly decided to close after today.
king believable. We're fkd and only a compulsory lock down will get through to
s like this.Oh, she's sensibly decided to close after today.
Edited by SlimJim16v on Saturday 21st March 16:35
Baldchap said:
fatandwheezing said:
They still refuse to keep their distance. Her dad is caretaker of a local school, and has absolutely no intention of stopping that.
Schools are closed now, so I guess he'll be stopping whether he wants to or not. People need to eat though so even in full lock-down they will still be in the food shops milling around.
From what I can tell from wandering around (food shops) is that no one looks ill so hopefully the really ill people simply stay home. If you do the basics (wash hands regularly^, no handshakes etc of course and try to stay away from people) then surely minimal risk. Hopefully too people are staying put within their area so not moving the virus from town to town.
Imho the biggest risk area is cities given everyone is stuffed in there and using the tube etc vs the rest of us out in the sticks with a lower risk profile. Example where I live there is a population of 120k and just 3 confirmed cases.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-51768274
TX.
^I do that when entering the supermarket and also when leaving.
From what I can tell from wandering around (food shops) is that no one looks ill so hopefully the really ill people simply stay home. If you do the basics (wash hands regularly^, no handshakes etc of course and try to stay away from people) then surely minimal risk. Hopefully too people are staying put within their area so not moving the virus from town to town.
Imho the biggest risk area is cities given everyone is stuffed in there and using the tube etc vs the rest of us out in the sticks with a lower risk profile. Example where I live there is a population of 120k and just 3 confirmed cases.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-51768274
TX.
^I do that when entering the supermarket and also when leaving.
This thread is confusing. Do those on here moaning think people shouldn't go to supermarkets and just live off what they have already until they die in their beds?
Yes the risk in a supermarket might be slightly higher than your weird niche job that only involves 3 people but that's not the point. Buying food to eat is essential, and hopefully people are minimising the risk by not over-handling things (I know I am) and trying to keep a general sensible distance.
It's about reducing risk and spread overall. It's not possible to cut it out entirely. Letting people go to pubs or sporting events for no reason is just adding chances for spread.
Likewise they want to keep people in work, afterall this is going to destroy the economy enough without everyone staying home, but it's your responsibility to reduce the risk of spread however possible. Be that working from home, diving teams or hours, disinfecting etc etc.
Hypocrisy would be allowing mass gatherings but stopping people going to supermarkets. Letting people work and shop isn't hypocrisy.
Yes the risk in a supermarket might be slightly higher than your weird niche job that only involves 3 people but that's not the point. Buying food to eat is essential, and hopefully people are minimising the risk by not over-handling things (I know I am) and trying to keep a general sensible distance.
It's about reducing risk and spread overall. It's not possible to cut it out entirely. Letting people go to pubs or sporting events for no reason is just adding chances for spread.
Likewise they want to keep people in work, afterall this is going to destroy the economy enough without everyone staying home, but it's your responsibility to reduce the risk of spread however possible. Be that working from home, diving teams or hours, disinfecting etc etc.
Hypocrisy would be allowing mass gatherings but stopping people going to supermarkets. Letting people work and shop isn't hypocrisy.
Baldchap said:
Just walked the dog in the woods like I do every day. It's like a f
king bank holiday. There's a b
d ice cream van there!
Exactly the same - we took the dogs out on the basis the local common is usually quiet and you're unlikely to get within isolation distance of anyone even in normal times, so no chances of unwittingly infecting anyone (we're currently asymptomatic, but that doesn't count for an awful lot). Suddenly today it's absolutely heaving with people, loads of big groups and not much sense of isolation in sight. I'm guessing everybody who'd normally have gone to the pub or a café has headed out there instead.
king bank holiday. There's a b
d ice cream van there! I can't see how we're going to avoid an enforced lockdown at this point, other than through a large number of avoidable deaths. The notion that Brits are superior to those flighty continentals and can be trusted to quietly get on with it and sensibly follow advice is being dispelled rapidly.
Riley Blue said:
We're not venturing far at present, just the the corner shop. En route we sometimes come across Daniel, a special needs adult who is totally harmless but, as he's a big chap, can be intimidating if you don't know him. For the last couple of days Daniel has been walking round with a two-metre long garden cane which he uses to keep everyone at the recommended distance apart. Perhaps we should all get a 'Daniel stick'.
My (autistic) son is welcoming people in to his world of heightened anxiety and social distancing.BMR said:
It tells me there is only one solution coming and that is a lockdown
I dropped my other half at work this morning (a supermarket) and the thing that strikes me is the amount of elderly (70+) that are congregating are supermarkets and very close to all other age groups.
I’m not sure if the fully scale of the virus is being appreciated by many in society.
I thought that on my last visit to a supermarket. Loads of old people, giving a fair amount of space in the aisles, but as soon as they got to checkout, were queuing right up against each other and even chatting to strangers next to them. Madness.I dropped my other half at work this morning (a supermarket) and the thing that strikes me is the amount of elderly (70+) that are congregating are supermarkets and very close to all other age groups.
I’m not sure if the fully scale of the virus is being appreciated by many in society.
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