Chinese burns
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stuartmmcfc

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8,775 posts

221 months

Saturday 15th August 2020
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I was telling my kids about how I used to torture their aunt by giving her chinese burns when we were younger.
My very woke children told me I was using a racist term. It’s never occurred to me before. Thinking about it, I’ve always thought of it as like “french dressing”, just a descriptor with no offence implied.
However I’m always willing to learn. Is it a racist term?

Incidentally an American friend told me they called them “Indian burns”, and that’s considered very racist, but I think that’s because of “Indian” not Native American?

wildoliver

9,308 posts

245 months

Saturday 15th August 2020
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Maybe a good time to start educating them that while racism is abhorrent, being offended on the behalf of others who probably don't care is not great either.

Smiler.

11,752 posts

259 months

Saturday 15th August 2020
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Don't tell them about Nepal Crepple

Roofless Toothless

7,567 posts

161 months

Saturday 15th August 2020
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I had a paint set with Chinese white in it. Am I doomed?

whitesocks

1,006 posts

75 months

Saturday 15th August 2020
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Maybe they should ask an actual Chinese person if they feel offended by the term? Instead of feeling the need to be offended on behalf of other people.

Like Wildoliver said, teach that feeling offended on a POC's behalf does not help.

Edited by whitesocks on Saturday 15th August 18:10

Cimaguy

562 posts

101 months

Saturday 15th August 2020
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You should tell them about English burns...it's terrible. My uni mates who went to Ibiza had it bad. Itchy burns around the groin area.

Scottish Burns is a fabulous writer. Definitely not something the Scots would be offended by.

alorotom

12,783 posts

216 months

Saturday 15th August 2020
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Apparently... The reason it's called a Chinese Burn comes from martial arts. When you throw an opponent over and hold on to their arms, they often get burns, so it's called a Chinese burn.

Not racist in the slightest ... your kids need some reality checks

Smiler.

11,752 posts

259 months

Saturday 15th August 2020
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I forget which episode


Liokault

2,837 posts

243 months

Saturday 15th August 2020
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whitesocks said:
Maybe they should ask an actual Chinese person if they feel offended by the term? Instead of feeling the need to be offended on behalf of other people.

Like Wildoliver said, teach that feeling offended on a POC's behalf does not help.

Edited by whitesocks on Saturday 15th August 18:10
As a Chinese person I would vely much like you to stop rusing that term.

Drezza

1,471 posts

83 months

Saturday 15th August 2020
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I bet a wet willy is mysogynistic or something these days n all... what a sad state of affairs.

Europa1

10,923 posts

217 months

Saturday 15th August 2020
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Liokault said:
whitesocks said:
Maybe they should ask an actual Chinese person if they feel offended by the term? Instead of feeling the need to be offended on behalf of other people.

Like Wildoliver said, teach that feeling offended on a POC's behalf does not help.

Edited by whitesocks on Saturday 15th August 18:10
As a Chinese person I would vely much like you to stop rusing that term.
Preserved for posterity.

dudleybloke

20,553 posts

215 months

Saturday 15th August 2020
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Szechuan haggis?

Einion Yrth

19,575 posts

273 months

Saturday 15th August 2020
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dudleybloke said:
Szechuan haggis?
If I saw that on a menu, I'd really have to, wouldn't be able to stop myself.

Ambleton

7,267 posts

221 months

Sunday 16th August 2020
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I was thinking along similar lines the other day.

People still refer to the Spanish influenza that killed a load of people circa 100years ago. If that's okay, why isn't it okay to refer to covid as Chinese Influenza?

(Can of worms opened)

Sophisticated Sarah

15,078 posts

198 months

Sunday 16th August 2020
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stuartmmcfc said:
I was telling my kids about how I used to torture their aunt by giving her chinese burns when we were younger.
My very woke children told me I was using a racist term. It’s never occurred to me before. Thinking about it, I’ve always thought of it as like “french dressing”, just a descriptor with no offence implied.
However I’m always willing to learn. Is it a racist term?

Incidentally an American friend told me they called them “Indian burns”, and that’s considered very racist, but I think that’s because of “Indian” not Native American?
Probably just a case of Chinese whispers as usual with them getting the wrong end of the stick.

stuartmmcfc

Original Poster:

8,775 posts

221 months

Sunday 16th August 2020
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Thanks for the reply’s, I don’t think it’s racist, but it did make me wonder.
I’ve got to clear a few things up though,
They weren’t offended, on any ones behalf, just told me that amongst their friends it would be considered racist.
Secondly, I do think it’s right to be offended on someone else’s behalf.
For example, if I was in rhe pub with a group of white friends and one of them started using the n word, I’d call them out on it. Wouldn’t you?

anonymoususer

8,448 posts

77 months

Sunday 16th August 2020
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Sophisticated Sarah said:
Probably just a case of Chinese whispers as usual with them getting the wrong end of the stick.
Very good

BryanC

1,125 posts

267 months

Sunday 16th August 2020
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Stopped using French letters in case I offend.

55palfers

6,368 posts

193 months

Sunday 16th August 2020
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Mustard is a minefield...

anonymous-user

83 months

Sunday 16th August 2020
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Another thread where old people talk about the good old days, where racism was normal.