How much can you milk from the social?
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I've mentioned it a few times on here, but my father in law lived entirely on benefits for all the time I knew him.
He lived in the same area as us, and had a newer car (motability). The kitchen, bathroom, windows and boiler were all replaced at the taxpayers expense, as the house was provided by the tax payer. It was a nice 3 bedroom house with a garage and off street parking.
When we moved I to the area we could only afford a 2 bed place, and it needed a comp!are refurb. I could just afford the mortgages so to pay for the bathroom, kitchen and windows I worked overtime (leaving me less time to do the work). When kids came a long we needed to extend, so I had to come up with 40k just to create the extra space. Nobody else was going to provide it.
Now that I'm retired I do wonder why I spent decades working so hard to house and feed my family, when my father in law achieved the same with zero effort.
He lived in the same area as us, and had a newer car (motability). The kitchen, bathroom, windows and boiler were all replaced at the taxpayers expense, as the house was provided by the tax payer. It was a nice 3 bedroom house with a garage and off street parking.
When we moved I to the area we could only afford a 2 bed place, and it needed a comp!are refurb. I could just afford the mortgages so to pay for the bathroom, kitchen and windows I worked overtime (leaving me less time to do the work). When kids came a long we needed to extend, so I had to come up with 40k just to create the extra space. Nobody else was going to provide it.
Now that I'm retired I do wonder why I spent decades working so hard to house and feed my family, when my father in law achieved the same with zero effort.
98elise said:
I've mentioned it a few times on here, but my father in law lived entirely on benefits for all the time I knew him.
He lived in the same area as us, and had a newer car (motability). The kitchen, bathroom, windows and boiler were all replaced at the taxpayers expense, as the house was provided by the tax payer. It was a nice 3 bedroom house with a garage and off street parking.
When we moved I to the area we could only afford a 2 bed place, and it needed a comp!are refurb. I could just afford the mortgages so to pay for the bathroom, kitchen and windows I worked overtime (leaving me less time to do the work). When kids came a long we needed to extend, so I had to come up with 40k just to create the extra space. Nobody else was going to provide it.
Now that I'm retired I do wonder why I spent decades working so hard to house and feed my family, when my father in law achieved the same with zero effort.
I work from home and was having proper stressful week, about 7pm I look out the window to see them all sat out in the garden(same as mine) having the time of their lives. They’d been sat there since about 3pm. He lived in the same area as us, and had a newer car (motability). The kitchen, bathroom, windows and boiler were all replaced at the taxpayers expense, as the house was provided by the tax payer. It was a nice 3 bedroom house with a garage and off street parking.
When we moved I to the area we could only afford a 2 bed place, and it needed a comp!are refurb. I could just afford the mortgages so to pay for the bathroom, kitchen and windows I worked overtime (leaving me less time to do the work). When kids came a long we needed to extend, so I had to come up with 40k just to create the extra space. Nobody else was going to provide it.
Now that I'm retired I do wonder why I spent decades working so hard to house and feed my family, when my father in law achieved the same with zero effort.
I guess I have to pay for them by working longer! Drove me to distraction and we had to move in the end
I once sold a car to a lady who's credit history wasn't great and the finance company wanted to know how much she received in total each month with all her benefits/tax credits etc. She had 4 kids with 1 being in a wheelchair permanently so she got a little more than normal, She bought some bank statements down to the garage so we could work it out, she said numbers weren't her 'thing' and she was pleasant enough so I didn't mind helping..
Just under £3100 per month she was getting!
Just under £3100 per month she was getting!
98elise said:
I've mentioned it a few times on here, but my father in law lived entirely on benefits for all the time I knew him.
He lived in the same area as us, and had a newer car (motability). The kitchen, bathroom, windows and boiler were all replaced at the taxpayers expense, as the house was provided by the tax payer. It was a nice 3 bedroom house with a garage and off street parking.
When we moved I to the area we could only afford a 2 bed place, and it needed a comp!are refurb. I could just afford the mortgages so to pay for the bathroom, kitchen and windows I worked overtime (leaving me less time to do the work). When kids came a long we needed to extend, so I had to come up with 40k just to create the extra space. Nobody else was going to provide it.
Now that I'm retired I do wonder why I spent decades working so hard to house and feed my family, when my father in law achieved the same with zero effort.
In my experience (having worked for a few ALMOs and Housing Associations) Social Housing tends to be of a very basic quality and usually in a fairly crappy area. The reason it's usually of a basic quality is because some scrotey tenants kick 7 bells out of it so HAs are always having to repair/replace stuff (ergo no point in using expensive high quality material). And they're in scummy areas because Council tenants have a higher-than-average ratio of scrotes/decent person. Kitchens/bathrooms/windows etc will be replaced because they're tenants and all Landlords are supposed to make sure the House is in a fit and suitable condition. All tenants (whether Council or private sector/BTL) should have the same provided by their Landlord. He lived in the same area as us, and had a newer car (motability). The kitchen, bathroom, windows and boiler were all replaced at the taxpayers expense, as the house was provided by the tax payer. It was a nice 3 bedroom house with a garage and off street parking.
When we moved I to the area we could only afford a 2 bed place, and it needed a comp!are refurb. I could just afford the mortgages so to pay for the bathroom, kitchen and windows I worked overtime (leaving me less time to do the work). When kids came a long we needed to extend, so I had to come up with 40k just to create the extra space. Nobody else was going to provide it.
Now that I'm retired I do wonder why I spent decades working so hard to house and feed my family, when my father in law achieved the same with zero effort.
In answer to the original question - a life purely on benefits is crap. It becomes tolerable if you're doing cash in hand jobs at the same time to top up your earnings.
We reckoned up that with the various benefits, next door to my mum was getting around 2400 a month
usual scenario applies, seven kids, no dad, house extended, doesn't work, never has,
garden looks like an argos brochure,
Then you had mum and dad worked all their lives, struggling pensioners,
then get cancer, life isnt fair.
usual scenario applies, seven kids, no dad, house extended, doesn't work, never has,
garden looks like an argos brochure,
Then you had mum and dad worked all their lives, struggling pensioners,
then get cancer, life isnt fair.
Spare tyre said:
My old next door neighbour had same house as me, a new car, USA holidays (term time kids out of school job)
Her boyfriend had a council flat that he sub let. They bred boxer dogs for extra cash and he sold small packets of oregano etc to youngsters
To be clear, that's not "milking the social". That's "being a criminal".Her boyfriend had a council flat that he sub let. They bred boxer dogs for extra cash and he sold small packets of oregano etc to youngsters
Calling Austinsmirk. Calling Austinsmirk. Fortunately the benefit caps are now in force.
Also remember although those figures seem high, thats in effect "post tax" for the rest of us. Did some calculations a while ago with colleagues when working for a charity and quite often there were people with 2 or 3 kids getting £2k a month easily in benefits. £2k a month before tax equates to a £30k job which most of these scrotes have zero chance of ever getting near that in legitimate earnings.
That women with £3.1k would need to earn almost £50k to get the same money through work.
Also remember although those figures seem high, thats in effect "post tax" for the rest of us. Did some calculations a while ago with colleagues when working for a charity and quite often there were people with 2 or 3 kids getting £2k a month easily in benefits. £2k a month before tax equates to a £30k job which most of these scrotes have zero chance of ever getting near that in legitimate earnings.
That women with £3.1k would need to earn almost £50k to get the same money through work.
The big jackpots are:
Housing benefit (or even lower than market value rents from Social Housing)
Council Tax benefit - normally zero cost
Motability car - for example if your child has ADHD etc
Mobility/disability allowances for ADHD kids
Carers allowances for them
then
free school meals
free prescriptions
events - ie. coach and theme park entry for £10 with priority queuing
Housing benefit (or even lower than market value rents from Social Housing)
Council Tax benefit - normally zero cost
Motability car - for example if your child has ADHD etc
Mobility/disability allowances for ADHD kids
Carers allowances for them
then
free school meals
free prescriptions
events - ie. coach and theme park entry for £10 with priority queuing
Spare tyre said:
My old next door neighbour had same house as me, a new car, USA holidays (term time kids out of school job)
Her boyfriend had a council flat that he sub let. They bred boxer dogs for extra cash and he sold small packets of oregano etc to youngsters
I bet you were glad when we moved out. Her boyfriend had a council flat that he sub let. They bred boxer dogs for extra cash and he sold small packets of oregano etc to youngsters
Spare tyre said:
CoolHands said:
It’s the free motability cars that get me
I am led to believe ina lot of cases granny or whoever takes the agreement out then insures family, might be BSCan we please stop calling motability cars a benefit, they aren't. The actually benefit is a PIP (formerly DLA) mobility allowance, they can exchange this for a car or take the cash (£250 a month if memory serves).
Also IIRC a lot of benefits are also related to having kids at home and under 18. If you have none of the above the benefit amount you will receive is significantly lower.
I find it galling just like everyone else, don't see this as me defending a life of benefits but if we are going to do this, lets do it properly aye?
Also IIRC a lot of benefits are also related to having kids at home and under 18. If you have none of the above the benefit amount you will receive is significantly lower.
I find it galling just like everyone else, don't see this as me defending a life of benefits but if we are going to do this, lets do it properly aye?
romeogolf said:
Work it out for yourself: https://www.entitledto.co.uk/
4 kids, 1 claiming disability (low level), parent long term out of work, 2.4k 
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