Farmers - Harvest question
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My son asked me a good question and I haven’t found him an answer yet. Was hoping the PH massive may help.
He was watching the harvest in a nearby field, a particularly nice Claas Lexion working away with two John Deere 5 series tractors and trailers, and he said, “Do the farmers keep some grain so they can grow next year’s crop?”
Do they?
He was watching the harvest in a nearby field, a particularly nice Claas Lexion working away with two John Deere 5 series tractors and trailers, and he said, “Do the farmers keep some grain so they can grow next year’s crop?”
Do they?
tracer.smart said:
My son asked me a good question and I haven’t found him an answer yet. Was hoping the PH massive may help.
He was watching the harvest in a nearby field, a particularly nice Claas Lexion working away with two John Deere 5 series tractors and trailers, and he said, “Do the farmers keep some grain so they can grow next year’s crop?”
Do they?
I can only speak for farmers here in SW Germany, NO, not when they can avoid it... because....He was watching the harvest in a nearby field, a particularly nice Claas Lexion working away with two John Deere 5 series tractors and trailers, and he said, “Do the farmers keep some grain so they can grow next year’s crop?”
Do they?
The contracts with grain suppliers (which could be seen as bordering on the illegal) are such that they are forced to pay the grain suppliers (Monsanto and other verging on the criminal, companies) repeat payments for the delivered grain for up to 3 to 5 years after delivery, due to supposed "patents" on the grain type.....
IMHO if not illegal, then it damn well should be......
Imagine your long awaited sports car which you paid in full on order, and then having to pay for it again for 3 or 5 years (because there are patented parts in it)!??!?! WTF!!!!
Thought I would reply to this before the tin foil hat brigade got out of hand.
Some farmers keep their own seed, normally from the best yielding field on the farm and then in the winter / spring you get it dressed (remove the smallest seeds and treat with a preservative) then in spring time they sow the seed.
certain varieties you have to pay royalties on, essentially a bit like a license to for the IP that bred the seed.
We have been doing this for over twenty years, we used to test the germination of the seed before we sowed it but stopped doing that years ago and never had any issues.
Some farmers keep their own seed, normally from the best yielding field on the farm and then in the winter / spring you get it dressed (remove the smallest seeds and treat with a preservative) then in spring time they sow the seed.
certain varieties you have to pay royalties on, essentially a bit like a license to for the IP that bred the seed.
We have been doing this for over twenty years, we used to test the germination of the seed before we sowed it but stopped doing that years ago and never had any issues.
JMGS4 said:
I can only speak for farmers here in SW Germany, NO, not when they can avoid it... because....
The contracts with grain suppliers (which could be seen as bordering on the illegal) are such that they are forced to pay the grain suppliers (Monsanto and other verging on the criminal, companies) repeat payments for the delivered grain for up to 3 to 5 years after delivery, due to supposed "patents" on the grain type.....
IMHO if not illegal, then it damn well should be......
Imagine your long awaited sports car which you paid in full on order, and then having to pay for it again for 3 or 5 years (because there are patented parts in it)!??!?! WTF!!!!
listening to a Podcast about Monsanto, never heard of them before.The contracts with grain suppliers (which could be seen as bordering on the illegal) are such that they are forced to pay the grain suppliers (Monsanto and other verging on the criminal, companies) repeat payments for the delivered grain for up to 3 to 5 years after delivery, due to supposed "patents" on the grain type.....
IMHO if not illegal, then it damn well should be......
Imagine your long awaited sports car which you paid in full on order, and then having to pay for it again for 3 or 5 years (because there are patented parts in it)!??!?! WTF!!!!
Going on just their history and facts, they are truly an abhorrent and evil company.
that was the podcast I found in the meantimetracer.smart said:
My son asked me a good question and I haven’t found him an answer yet. Was hoping the PH massive may help.
He was watching the harvest in a nearby field, a particularly nice Claas Lexion working away with two John Deere 5 series tractors and trailers, and he said, “Do the farmers keep some grain so they can grow next year’s crop?”
Do they?
in ireland they do a little. but the majority buy anew. they are supplying the bread bin over there. He was watching the harvest in a nearby field, a particularly nice Claas Lexion working away with two John Deere 5 series tractors and trailers, and he said, “Do the farmers keep some grain so they can grow next year’s crop?”
Do they?
Those tractors are fairly small for the haul. I wouldve said that most tillage farmers would be running 6 series. Did they have loader or loader brackets on them from what you could see, as this would explain the compact size due to yard work.
Some do, some varieties don't need the licenses as stated above.
Your seed will need to go through a cleaner and sometimes treated. Tend to do a germination test too.
Agrovista clean ours https://www.agrovista.co.uk/mobile-seed-cleaning-a...
Yield would average about 3 tonne per acre and plant about 75-80kg/acre on average. Varies a lot depending on conditions though.
Your seed will need to go through a cleaner and sometimes treated. Tend to do a germination test too.
Agrovista clean ours https://www.agrovista.co.uk/mobile-seed-cleaning-a...
Yield would average about 3 tonne per acre and plant about 75-80kg/acre on average. Varies a lot depending on conditions though.
Was with someone yesterday who harvested an entire field of beans which not only had cost nothing to seed, were what had fallen on the ground from last year.
But as with other posts... Some farmers will save some, however most tends to be bought in. Depends on your farming type. Livestock farmers who want to keep some back for their animals will be much happier resowing some stuff out the barn than the large arable estates which are going for super high yields.
Some varieties of hybrid crops are sterile, so the farmer is forced to buy new seed each year. Tends not to happen so much in the UK, but is big in the soyabean and corn areas (USA/Brazil).
But as with other posts... Some farmers will save some, however most tends to be bought in. Depends on your farming type. Livestock farmers who want to keep some back for their animals will be much happier resowing some stuff out the barn than the large arable estates which are going for super high yields.
Some varieties of hybrid crops are sterile, so the farmer is forced to buy new seed each year. Tends not to happen so much in the UK, but is big in the soyabean and corn areas (USA/Brazil).
nute said:
We buy ours in new each time, not a very big farm and we don’t grow the same crop on the same ground consecutively and we don’t have much storage.
We do a mixture of both, 'home save' and bought in. Bought in seed is grown to particular standards, so if a farmer decides to save some for next year it's best to grow it as if you were growing a seed crop for others...tracer.smart said:
My son asked me a good question and I haven’t found him an answer yet. Was hoping the PH massive may help.
He was watching the harvest in a nearby field, a particularly nice Claas Lexion working away with two John Deere 5 series tractors and trailers, and he said, “Do the farmers keep some grain so they can grow next year
Do they?
Nearly all of our seed is home saved.He was watching the harvest in a nearby field, a particularly nice Claas Lexion working away with two John Deere 5 series tractors and trailers, and he said, “Do the farmers keep some grain so they can grow next year
Do they?
The seed is cleaned, grained and treated with what ever treatment is needed by these people https://www.angliagrainservices.co.uk/ they also do a thousand grain weight test and pay the breeders royalties. When we grow new varieties they come straight from the breeders as C1 seed
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