Experience of New Age travellers in 1990s
Experience of New Age travellers in 1990s
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Spare tyre

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12,558 posts

159 months

Saturday 10th October 2020
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I’ve been watching this morning a documentary on YouTube about some New Age travellers who camped on stoney cross airfield in the new forest Hampshire in the early 90’s. It caught my eye as it’s right near where I lived as a kid, but was only 5 or so, so probably never saw it on the news etc.

The press at the time made them out to be bad people, were they? A lot of em seem jolly posh, some look a bit mental aNd the rest somewhere in between.

The news articles I can find around the time suggest they are bad eggs, would be interesting to hear people on here views.

These are not normal gypsies etc, but hippy types living in mad old coaches etc

Thanks

Edited by Spare tyre on Saturday 10th October 19:27

21st Century Man

42,561 posts

277 months

Saturday 10th October 2020
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It seemed to be a big deal at the time, but looking back, a lot of fuss about nothing. I bet they were all leading ordinary lives just a few years later.

Edited by 21st Century Man on Saturday 10th October 19:17

pequod

8,997 posts

167 months

Saturday 10th October 2020
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The place you remember is called Stoney Cross. It was an airfield during WW2 and despite it now being within the New Forest NPA, many locals remember it being more akin to an abandoned airfield with the concrete taxiways and main airstrip. Many of us learnt to drive there.

As for the NAT's, they were a bunch of hippies who took to life on the road in old coaches and other assorted vehicles and were the fore-runners of today's so-called travellers, not to be confused with the genuine gypsy community.

Illegally occupying land was, and is, their 'right' apparently including leaving all manner of rubbish behind for the landowner to deal with.

Cost a friend of mine several thousands over the years in court costs to remove them from his farmland and clearing the site after they were evicted.

Charming!!

Spare tyre

Original Poster:

12,558 posts

159 months

Saturday 10th October 2020
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pequod said:
The place you remember is called Stoney Cross. It was an airfield during WW2 and despite it now being within the New Forest NPA, many locals remember it being more akin to an abandoned airfield with the concrete taxiways and main airstrip. Many of us learnt to drive there.

As for the NAT's, they were a bunch of hippies who took to life on the road in old coaches and other assorted vehicles and were the fore-runners of today's so-called travellers, not to be confused with the genuine gypsy community.

Illegally occupying land was, and is, their 'right' apparently including leaving all manner of rubbish behind for the landowner to deal with.

Cost a friend of mine several thousands over the years in court costs to remove them from his farmland and clearing the site after they were evicted.

Charming!!
Cheers, just noted my typo.

Interesting views, cheers

Spare tyre

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12,558 posts

159 months

Saturday 10th October 2020
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Some interesting pics on the galleries here

http://digitaljournalist.eu/OnTheRoad/travellers/

warch

2,941 posts

183 months

Saturday 10th October 2020
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pequod said:
As for the NAT's, they were a bunch of hippies who took to life on the road in old coaches and other assorted vehicles and were the fore-runners of today's so-called travellers, not to be confused with the genuine gypsy community.
They were most certainly not the forerunners of travellers, who have been the subject of local and national laws and decrees since at least the 12th century.

21st Century Man

42,561 posts

277 months

Saturday 10th October 2020
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pequod said:
As for the NAT's, they were a bunch of hippies who took to life on the road in old coaches and other assorted vehicles and were the fore-runners of today's so-called travellers, not to be confused with the genuine gypsy community.
Really?

Today's travellers evolved from lefty Greenham, CND, anti-nuclear, Greenpeace, anti capitalist, anti-globalist, extinction rebellion, anti-new bypass Swampy protester types?

I never knew?

Rollin

6,331 posts

274 months

Saturday 10th October 2020
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warch said:
pequod said:
As for the NAT's, they were a bunch of hippies who took to life on the road in old coaches and other assorted vehicles and were the fore-runners of today's so-called travellers, not to be confused with the genuine gypsy community.
They were most certainly not the forerunners of travellers, who have been the subject of local and national laws and decrees since at least the 12th century.
Agreed.
I was at Nostell Priory Festival in 1984 when the peace convoy was present. They were nothing like current 'travellers'.

SCEtoAUX

4,119 posts

110 months

Saturday 10th October 2020
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I always remember Swampy at time like this. A lovely gentle guy who just wanted peace and harmony for all, a world where man loved his fellow man and we all just got along.

Sadly Swampy died of heart failure a few years ago. Surgeons could have saved him but he didn't want a bypass.

21st Century Man

42,561 posts

277 months

Saturday 10th October 2020
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hehe

knk

1,340 posts

300 months

Saturday 10th October 2020
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A chap I know spent most of a (gap) year up a tree with Swampy protesting at the Newbury bypass.

Then he went to University and following that commissioned into Her Majesty's first Regiment of Foot Guards!

whitesocks

1,006 posts

75 months

Saturday 10th October 2020
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So nothing like the Travellers that bring misery to places where they pitch up then?

loafer123

16,710 posts

244 months

Saturday 10th October 2020
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pequod said:
As for the NAT's, they were a bunch of hippies who took to life on the road in old coaches and other assorted vehicles and were the fore-runners of today's so-called travellers, not to be confused with the genuine gypsy community.
No, they really weren’t.

I grew up in Bath with a lot of “Crusties” living nearby (some still do in the woods near Bathampton) and all the ones I ever met didn’t care about money at all, just the environment and having fun.

williamp

20,397 posts

302 months

Saturday 10th October 2020
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Plenty of documentaries on youtube

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kwkX7D6PmcQ

Is one of many. Also good to spot the old cars, busses etc

dudleybloke

20,553 posts

215 months

Saturday 10th October 2020
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Most I met in the rave scene back then were posh hippies sticking one finger up to expectations and taking a lot of LSD in the process.
They certainly didn't act like "travellers" (Esox Lucius) at all and more like a travelling kibbutz.

anonymous-user

83 months

Saturday 10th October 2020
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Seen to recall a lot of issues stemmed from many of their vehicles being unroadworthy, untaxed, uninsured death traps.

KAgantua

5,166 posts

160 months

Sunday 11th October 2020
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Fascinating subject, I am very into Acid and techno/ trance music from the 90s, so am aware of this subculture. Stories welcome.

vixen1700

29,018 posts

299 months

Sunday 11th October 2020
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dudleybloke said:
Most I met in the rave scene back then were posh hippies sticking one finger up to expectations and taking a lot of LSD in the process.
They certainly didn't act like "travellers" (Esox Lucius) at all and more like a travelling kibbutz.
Went to a few parties here in East London when they had the M11 link-road protests and yeah it was just like that. Especially a lot of LSD. hehe

Remember the day they were all 'evicted', never seen such a huge police presence backed up a mile or so away. eek

vixen1700

29,018 posts

299 months

Sunday 11th October 2020
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KAgantua said:
Fascinating subject, I am very into Acid and techno/ trance music from the 90s, so am aware of this subculture. Stories welcome.
Hearing the sort of 'London Acid Techno' for the first time was a mind-blower. I just thought rave music was that kind of piano-riff M25 stuff.

Wow! Hearing Routemaster and SUF stuff was insane. laugh

ellroy

7,834 posts

254 months

Sunday 11th October 2020
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knk said:
A chap I know spent most of a (gap) year up a tree with Swampy protesting at the Newbury bypass.

Then he went to University and following that commissioned into Her Majesty's first Regiment of Foot Guards!
The Grenadiers were always a frightful bunch of oiks.