Moulded mains plugs
Discussion
Just what is the point?
As soon as you want to do something even remotely useful, like route some cabling, you have to cut the bloody things off and then you can't reuse them.
Whatever safety nazi got those things forced through needs impaling, on a box of moulded plugs.
Now have to wait for amazon to deliver reusable plugs.
Grrr. Rant over.
As soon as you want to do something even remotely useful, like route some cabling, you have to cut the bloody things off and then you can't reuse them.
Whatever safety nazi got those things forced through needs impaling, on a box of moulded plugs.
Now have to wait for amazon to deliver reusable plugs.
Grrr. Rant over.
sociopath said:
Just what is the point?
As soon as you want to do something even remotely useful, like route some cabling, you have to cut the bloody things off and then you can't reuse them.
Whatever safety nazi got those things forced through needs impaling, on a box of moulded plugs.
Now have to wait for amazon to deliver reusable plugs.
Grrr. Rant over.
0/10.As soon as you want to do something even remotely useful, like route some cabling, you have to cut the bloody things off and then you can't reuse them.
Whatever safety nazi got those things forced through needs impaling, on a box of moulded plugs.
Now have to wait for amazon to deliver reusable plugs.
Grrr. Rant over.
Drill a bigger hole.
Wall transformers
Some stick up above the wall socket,some hang down, none of them will fit in a floorbox
Can somebody explain what the useless bit of plastic on the plug prongs is for? What does it protect? How many lives has it saved, and why in these times of saving the planet we are still using them? Pointless plastic waste
Some stick up above the wall socket,some hang down, none of them will fit in a floorbox
Can somebody explain what the useless bit of plastic on the plug prongs is for? What does it protect? How many lives has it saved, and why in these times of saving the planet we are still using them? Pointless plastic waste
Exige77 said:
I find it hard to believe a PHer wouldn’t keep stock of ready to use plugs in their well equipped shed.
Must be a covid thing ?
I have mine in a special box, along with all the random old cables (scsi,and 15 pin printer mostly) that I will also need one day.Must be a covid thing ?
As I'm old enough to remember plugs being an optional extra when buying anything electrical, I'm all in favour of moulded plugs.
Buy a hole saw - problem solved.
bristolracer said:
Wall transformers
Some stick up above the wall socket,some hang down, none of them will fit in a floorbox
Can somebody explain what the useless bit of plastic on the plug prongs is for? What does it protect? How many lives has it saved, and why in these times of saving the planet we are still using them? Pointless plastic waste
The plastic on the live and neutral ensures the pins are disconnected from the socket before you can touch the metal and kill yourself. Quite clever I think really.Some stick up above the wall socket,some hang down, none of them will fit in a floorbox
Can somebody explain what the useless bit of plastic on the plug prongs is for? What does it protect? How many lives has it saved, and why in these times of saving the planet we are still using them? Pointless plastic waste
In fact, (moulded plugs aside) the whole bs1363 system is clever and owes a lot to Caroline Haslett. Her aim was to protect the ignorant (young children), and I guess it now protects the stupid as well (young adults, who’s talents lie elsewhere).
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caroline_Haslett
cml24 said:
The plastic on the live and neutral ensures the pins are disconnected from the socket before you can touch the metal and kill yourself. Quite clever I think really.
Im talking about the 3 pronged plastic cover that is on the plug pins when new, that is subsequently discarded when first used and sent to landfill never to be used again. Seems very wasteful in these environmental times. bristolracer said:
Im talking about the 3 pronged plastic cover that is on the plug pins when new, that is subsequently discarded when first used and sent to landfill never to be used again. Seems very wasteful in these environmental times.
Hmm, that’s a valid pointed, and they are annoying.There must be a reason...
Edit: protecting the appliance in transit seems to be the consensus.
abzmike said:
For probably 90% of purposes and consumers moulded plugs are perfectly adequate, and stop people ballsing up when they need to wire a plug for the first time in 10 years. Surprising they are such an issue for someone of the OP's competence.
:-) It's an issue when you have a job planned for the day and realise that you dont have enough spare plugs so they job has to be postponed, plus I hate the waste of throwing a perfectly servicable plug awa.
Moulded plugs are great - they're much more durable than the rubbish you used to get, and 99.9% of morons won't do something daft with them.
Ever see a re-plugged stainless kettle with the earth wire cut flush and the live/neutral insulation poking out? I have, the owner maintained it was fine.
In the rare cases where you need to do something funky just cut the plug off and rewire it with a "proper" one.
Ever see a re-plugged stainless kettle with the earth wire cut flush and the live/neutral insulation poking out? I have, the owner maintained it was fine.
In the rare cases where you need to do something funky just cut the plug off and rewire it with a "proper" one.
Having replaced several plugs with Euro ones recently, I hadn't previously appreciated how good a design the UK plug is, the Euro ones are a pain in the arse to wire in comparison. I do like the ability to use them upside down though.
I agree moulded is a pain though, I've had to throw away several plugs rather than keep them to put back on later.
I agree moulded is a pain though, I've had to throw away several plugs rather than keep them to put back on later.
Exige77 said:
I find it hard to believe a PHer wouldn’t keep stock of ready to use plugs in their well equipped shed.
Must be a covid thing ?
No self-respecting PH'er will be seen cutting off plugs from discarded equipment.Must be a covid thing ?
If they need them, they are delivered in 'just-in-time' fashion.
I have no problem with moulded plugs except, like others have mentioned the 3 pin plastic cover they all seem to have - It's just more for landfill. I didn't particularly like buying a mains powered product that arrived without a plug.. It's like "Batteries Not Supplied" for a product that requires them..!
sociopath said:
As soon as you want to do something even remotely useful, like route some cabling, you have to cut the bloody things off and then you can't reuse them.
I guess most people could think or random examples but I can't remember ever snipping off a plug, apart from to repair the cord to our kettle base.The Christmas tree lights were awkward as I wanted to plug them in on the other side of the wall - but I just made up an extension lead to go through the wall instead.
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king ridiculous. You can protect the public from their stupidity well enough by selling them goods with normal three pins plugs attached. If they choose to disassemble them and kill themselves, so be it.