Moulded mains plugs
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sociopath

Original Poster:

3,433 posts

95 months

Thursday 29th October 2020
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Just what is the point?

As soon as you want to do something even remotely useful, like route some cabling, you have to cut the bloody things off and then you can't reuse them.

Whatever safety nazi got those things forced through needs impaling, on a box of moulded plugs.

Now have to wait for amazon to deliver reusable plugs.

Grrr. Rant over.

Alucidnation

16,810 posts

199 months

Thursday 29th October 2020
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sociopath said:
Just what is the point?

As soon as you want to do something even remotely useful, like route some cabling, you have to cut the bloody things off and then you can't reuse them.

Whatever safety nazi got those things forced through needs impaling, on a box of moulded plugs.

Now have to wait for amazon to deliver reusable plugs.

Grrr. Rant over.
0/10.

Drill a bigger hole.

Exige77

6,523 posts

220 months

Thursday 29th October 2020
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I find it hard to believe a PHer wouldn’t keep stock of ready to use plugs in their well equipped shed.

Must be a covid thing ?

StoatInACoat

1,355 posts

214 months

Thursday 29th October 2020
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The amount of people I have met who struggle to put a plug in the right way up let alone rewire one or replace the fuse suggests sealed plugs are probably a necessary evil.

bristolracer

5,949 posts

178 months

Thursday 29th October 2020
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Wall transformers
Some stick up above the wall socket,some hang down, none of them will fit in a floorbox

Can somebody explain what the useless bit of plastic on the plug prongs is for? What does it protect? How many lives has it saved, and why in these times of saving the planet we are still using them? Pointless plastic waste

Essel

593 posts

175 months

Thursday 29th October 2020
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Exige77 said:
I find it hard to believe a PHer wouldn’t keep stock of ready to use plugs in their well equipped shed.

Must be a covid thing ?
I have mine in a special box, along with all the random old cables (scsi,and 15 pin printer mostly) that I will also need one day.
As I'm old enough to remember plugs being an optional extra when buying anything electrical, I'm all in favour of moulded plugs.
Buy a hole saw - problem solved.

Spare tyre

12,558 posts

159 months

Thursday 29th October 2020
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Often you can open the appliance up and unscrew cable in side, route then re attach

I often pinch the cable from dead hoovers as they make good extension leads

cml24

1,583 posts

176 months

Thursday 29th October 2020
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bristolracer said:
Wall transformers
Some stick up above the wall socket,some hang down, none of them will fit in a floorbox

Can somebody explain what the useless bit of plastic on the plug prongs is for? What does it protect? How many lives has it saved, and why in these times of saving the planet we are still using them? Pointless plastic waste
The plastic on the live and neutral ensures the pins are disconnected from the socket before you can touch the metal and kill yourself. Quite clever I think really.

In fact, (moulded plugs aside) the whole bs1363 system is clever and owes a lot to Caroline Haslett. Her aim was to protect the ignorant (young children), and I guess it now protects the stupid as well (young adults, who’s talents lie elsewhere).

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caroline_Haslett

abzmike

11,985 posts

135 months

Thursday 29th October 2020
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For probably 90% of purposes and consumers moulded plugs are perfectly adequate, and stop people ballsing up when they need to wire a plug for the first time in 10 years. Surprising they are such an issue for someone of the OP's competence.

bristolracer

5,949 posts

178 months

Thursday 29th October 2020
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cml24 said:
The plastic on the live and neutral ensures the pins are disconnected from the socket before you can touch the metal and kill yourself. Quite clever I think really.
Im talking about the 3 pronged plastic cover that is on the plug pins when new, that is subsequently discarded when first used and sent to landfill never to be used again. Seems very wasteful in these environmental times.

cml24

1,583 posts

176 months

Thursday 29th October 2020
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bristolracer said:
Im talking about the 3 pronged plastic cover that is on the plug pins when new, that is subsequently discarded when first used and sent to landfill never to be used again. Seems very wasteful in these environmental times.
Hmm, that’s a valid pointed, and they are annoying.

There must be a reason...

Edit: protecting the appliance in transit seems to be the consensus.

ATG

23,731 posts

301 months

Thursday 29th October 2020
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I'm with the OP. Moulded plugs are fking ridiculous. You can protect the public from their stupidity well enough by selling them goods with normal three pins plugs attached. If they choose to disassemble them and kill themselves, so be it.

sociopath

Original Poster:

3,433 posts

95 months

Thursday 29th October 2020
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abzmike said:
For probably 90% of purposes and consumers moulded plugs are perfectly adequate, and stop people ballsing up when they need to wire a plug for the first time in 10 years. Surprising they are such an issue for someone of the OP's competence.
:-)

It's an issue when you have a job planned for the day and realise that you dont have enough spare plugs so they job has to be postponed, plus I hate the waste of throwing a perfectly servicable plug awa.

Krikkit

27,938 posts

210 months

Thursday 29th October 2020
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Moulded plugs are great - they're much more durable than the rubbish you used to get, and 99.9% of morons won't do something daft with them.

Ever see a re-plugged stainless kettle with the earth wire cut flush and the live/neutral insulation poking out? I have, the owner maintained it was fine.

In the rare cases where you need to do something funky just cut the plug off and rewire it with a "proper" one.

RizzoTheRat

28,896 posts

221 months

Thursday 29th October 2020
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Having replaced several plugs with Euro ones recently, I hadn't previously appreciated how good a design the UK plug is, the Euro ones are a pain in the arse to wire in comparison. I do like the ability to use them upside down though.
I agree moulded is a pain though, I've had to throw away several plugs rather than keep them to put back on later.

bigpriest

2,532 posts

159 months

Thursday 29th October 2020
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Is it Australia where you can't wire a plug yourself - have to get an electrician? I suspect moulded plugs are being secretly promoted by the electrical industry smile

Fastchas

2,836 posts

150 months

Thursday 29th October 2020
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Exige77 said:
I find it hard to believe a PHer wouldn’t keep stock of ready to use plugs in their well equipped shed.

Must be a covid thing ?
No self-respecting PH'er will be seen cutting off plugs from discarded equipment.
If they need them, they are delivered in 'just-in-time' fashion.

rjfp1962

9,348 posts

102 months

Thursday 29th October 2020
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I have no problem with moulded plugs except, like others have mentioned the 3 pin plastic cover they all seem to have - It's just more for landfill. I didn't particularly like buying a mains powered product that arrived without a plug.. It's like "Batteries Not Supplied" for a product that requires them..!

Sheepshanks

40,992 posts

148 months

Thursday 29th October 2020
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sociopath said:
As soon as you want to do something even remotely useful, like route some cabling, you have to cut the bloody things off and then you can't reuse them.
I guess most people could think or random examples but I can't remember ever snipping off a plug, apart from to repair the cord to our kettle base.

The Christmas tree lights were awkward as I wanted to plug them in on the other side of the wall - but I just made up an extension lead to go through the wall instead.

ATG

23,731 posts

301 months

Thursday 29th October 2020
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I cut one off yesterday. I needed to swap a lamp's standard three pin plug for one with round pins so I can use it on the livingroom's switched light circuit. Instead of being used elsewhere, the moulded POS is heading for landfill.