Help me compose a letter
Help me compose a letter
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Tyre Smoke

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23,018 posts

290 months

Wednesday 11th November 2020
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Backgound
I was adopted. My birth mother was born in NZ. I was entitled to NZ citizenship under their Section 10 (born abroad to a NZ citizen before a certain date) and successfully applied early this year and now have citizenship and a passport. My son was born in 2003. Had I been NZ citizen at the time (I didn't know, back then) he would automatically be entitled to NZ citizenship by descent. But because I wasn't a citizen before his birth, he doesn't qualify. However, the Embassy in London tell me that I can apply for citizenship for him and put a covering letter in to the Minister explaining exceptional circumstances, which might allow the application to proceed.

From my point of view, had I known about my heritage before my son's birth, I would definitely have made sure of his citizenship status, but for a cruel twist of fate, he's apparently not eligible. So can anyone suggest the best way to beg for mitigation?

alorotom

12,782 posts

216 months

Wednesday 11th November 2020
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Shot in the dark ... but, I would be inclined to have an opening gambit / synopsis of what the letter is about at a high level and then bullet the series of events chronologically

End it with a request for more information on how to seek resolve on the situation.

Include a curly curly and some hand sanitiser.


Tyre Smoke

Original Poster:

23,018 posts

290 months

Wednesday 11th November 2020
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hehe

Thanks for the advice. I'm useless at letter writing.

Taylor James

3,111 posts

90 months

Wednesday 11th November 2020
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There will probably be a clause in the rules about exceptional circumstances and exceptions. Research those before you do anything else because anyone you write to will start with the rules.

julian64

14,325 posts

283 months

Wednesday 11th November 2020
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I would probably start the letter saying why YOU wanted to apply for NZ citizenship?

Riley Blue

23,205 posts

255 months

Wednesday 11th November 2020
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Be polite, keep it brief and to the point.

StevieBee

15,313 posts

284 months

Wednesday 11th November 2020
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Don't 'beg'. Keep the tone matter of fact.

Structure it something like this:

Opening paragraph: Explain who you and for what purpose you are writing.

2nd paragraph: Background - why you're in the position you are.

3rd paragraph - Impact; what your situation means for your son and introduce here the reason why you're asking for what you're asking for. It would be advantageous to demonstrate here equal value to you / your son as well as to New Zealand.

Sign off: Keep this brief and to the point - that being that you would be grateful for any assistance in the matter.....

HTH and Good Luck

Tyre Smoke

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23,018 posts

290 months

Wednesday 11th November 2020
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Thanks Stevie, I've drafted out something along those lines.

With regards to the exceptions, there is nothing I can find except 'the minister may grant citizenship in exceptional circumstances'. I'm hoping that not knowing about my status and having no way of knowing at the time of my son's birth this will constitute exceptional circumstances.

Taylor James

3,111 posts

90 months

Wednesday 11th November 2020
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Tyre Smoke said:
Thanks Stevie, I've drafted out something along those lines.

With regards to the exceptions, there is nothing I can find except 'the minister may grant citizenship in exceptional circumstances'. I'm hoping that not knowing about my status and having no way of knowing at the time of my son's birth this will constitute exceptional circumstances.
See if you can find some test cases. Any specialist forums who might be able to advise?

Tyre Smoke

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23,018 posts

290 months

Wednesday 11th November 2020
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All I can find is aplying for immigration visas and residency. None of which are relevent.

Ultimately if it isn't granted, it will be disappointing, but not the end of the world.

Taylor James

3,111 posts

90 months

Wednesday 11th November 2020
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In my experience there will be some detail on what might constitute exceptional circumstances. Finding it is the issue.

Call to the NZ embassy? NZ ex-pat forum?

Tyre Smoke

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23,018 posts

290 months

Wednesday 11th November 2020
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I'm taking some comfort from the reply to my enquiry email from the Embassy. I explained the circumstances and they gave the 'under normal circumstances...however, here is a link to the application'

Now, I might be adding my two and two to equal five, but the impression they left was it wasn't a waste of time.

NNH

1,548 posts

161 months

Sunday 17th January 2021
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TS - Any luck with this yet?

uncinqsix

3,239 posts

239 months

Sunday 17th January 2021
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Taylor James said:
There will probably be a clause in the rules about exceptional circumstances and exceptions. Research those before you do anything else because anyone you write to will start with the rules.
This is good advice. Find out what the the criteria are (I'm not familiar with the immigration act, but if the Minister has decision making power, there should be something setting out what he/she must take into account). Then explain clearly and concisely why your case meets those criteria.

Tyre Smoke

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23,018 posts

290 months

Sunday 17th January 2021
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I've shelved the idea for the moment. There's more important stuff going on for us right now.

I haven't dropped it altogether, just put it on hold.

NNH

1,548 posts

161 months

Monday 18th January 2021
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Tyre Smoke said:
I've shelved the idea for the moment. There's more important stuff going on for us right now.

I haven't dropped it altogether, just put it on hold.
I know the feeling. I've put getting Irish nationality on hold while I deal with other paperwork.