When do we truly think life will get back to normal?
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I think this is the new norm now, it will never return to how it was due to the ability to get re infected with this virus.
However, on a timescale, i would say that given the furlough scheme has been extended to the end of March 2021, i reckon at least April next year before some semblance of normality returns and if i'm honest, i am expecting 2021 to be a write off too.
However, on a timescale, i would say that given the furlough scheme has been extended to the end of March 2021, i reckon at least April next year before some semblance of normality returns and if i'm honest, i am expecting 2021 to be a write off too.
Leicesterdave said:
.....Is Spring really likely?
Spring 2022 at the very earliest imho. We are not even going to know whether any vaccine “works” until we get to this point next year, so I fully expect restrictions similar to what we have now being in place all the way through until 2022.The fear, and habits are so ingrained now that I sizeable (and vocal) proportion of the population will be clamouring to be protected whatever the cost.
Maybe May 2023 if everything goes “well”
Muncher said:
Leicesterdave said:
.....Is Spring really likely?
Spring 2022 at the very earliest imho. We are not even going to know whether any vaccine “works” until we get to this point next year, so I fully expect restrictions similar to what we have now being in place all the way through until 2022.The fear, and habits are so ingrained now that I sizeable (and vocal) proportion of the population will be clamouring to be protected whatever the cost.
Maybe May 2023 if everything goes “well”
Yet come the time the vaccine is offered, they will be first in the queue.
I'm not sure it will. The office working environment for one thing has changed completely. Companies will be more reluctant to rent office space if staff can work at home, and that will knock on to places like coffee shops, bars and restaurants. I think some will also be happy not having to be ripped of annually for rail tickets at thousands of pounds per year.
I believe that local amenities will do better as people work from home, but for city centres and non-residential areas, it could be quite a while...
The car trade could be affected too as people don't need them for work so much - maybe more SUV's for the school run...!
But we are People-Of-Habit and it will all go back to normal in a year or two..., therefore the above is crap!
I believe that local amenities will do better as people work from home, but for city centres and non-residential areas, it could be quite a while...
The car trade could be affected too as people don't need them for work so much - maybe more SUV's for the school run...!
But we are People-Of-Habit and it will all go back to normal in a year or two..., therefore the above is crap!
Life in general i.e holidays, big events etc, I think this time next year but could be a bit longer maybe mid 2022 by the time things get "back to normal".
Business wise..... much harder question.
My business was hit hard in the 08-09 recession.
It took around 6-7 years for us to recover and we had to change the way we do things to actually get there.
I hope that we can recover faster than last time, but I think the next 2-3 years are going to be difficult and profits are going to be through the floor. Its just a giant knock on effect then for everything as we buy less off our suppliers, all the staff get less overtime and less bonus it just rolls on and on.
Business wise..... much harder question.
My business was hit hard in the 08-09 recession.
It took around 6-7 years for us to recover and we had to change the way we do things to actually get there.
I hope that we can recover faster than last time, but I think the next 2-3 years are going to be difficult and profits are going to be through the floor. Its just a giant knock on effect then for everything as we buy less off our suppliers, all the staff get less overtime and less bonus it just rolls on and on.
rjfp1962 said:
I'm not sure it will. The office working environment for one thing has changed completely. Companies will be more reluctant to rent office space if staff can work at home, and that will knock on to places like coffee shops, bars and restaurants. I think some will also be happy not having to be ripped of annually for rail tickets at thousands of pounds per year.
I believe that local amenities will do better as people work from home, but for city centres and non-residential areas, it could be quite a while...
The car trade could be affected too as people don't need them for work so much - maybe more SUV's for the school run...!
But we are People-Of-Habit and it will all go back to normal in a year or two..., therefore the above is crap!
2 years of WFH, that will be a tough habit to break, roll out of bed 10 minutes before you are supposed to start work or get up 90 minutes earlier to have a shower, breakfast, don a suit (that no longer fits) and tie and drive for an hour for your 20 mile commute, yeah seems like an easy sell.I believe that local amenities will do better as people work from home, but for city centres and non-residential areas, it could be quite a while...
The car trade could be affected too as people don't need them for work so much - maybe more SUV's for the school run...!
But we are People-Of-Habit and it will all go back to normal in a year or two..., therefore the above is crap!
If the WFH continues garages that rely on servicing are going to struggle as people only get their car serviced every three years, because mileage based service intervals.
Going to be along haul back I feel.
Next April-June for a fairly big return to normal, Spring 2022 for 99% normal.
The vaccine is a game changer.
Karen and Co will stop moaning when the country can no longer afford to keep her in free money, and instantly change her tune.
Infections seem to have levelled off already, deaths will do so and then start to drop as immunising everyone over 65 gradually happens.
The vaccine is a game changer.
Karen and Co will stop moaning when the country can no longer afford to keep her in free money, and instantly change her tune.
Infections seem to have levelled off already, deaths will do so and then start to drop as immunising everyone over 65 gradually happens.
SCEtoAUX said:
Next April-June for a fairly big return to normal, Spring 2022 for 99% normal.
The vaccine is a game changer.
Karen and Co will stop moaning when the country can no longer afford to keep her in free money, and instantly change her tune.
Infections seem to have levelled off already, deaths will do so and then start to drop as immunising everyone over 65 gradually happens.
Not totally convinced by the vaccine. BBC news was saying vaccines normally take up to 10 years to develop and this one 10 months?The vaccine is a game changer.
Karen and Co will stop moaning when the country can no longer afford to keep her in free money, and instantly change her tune.
Infections seem to have levelled off already, deaths will do so and then start to drop as immunising everyone over 65 gradually happens.
I know tech moves at a fast pace but ..... even the BMJ has put some doubt over it.https://www.bmj.com/content/371/bmj.m4037
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