Drunks and beggars
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After Covid travel restrictions ended Monday, I drove down to Torquay to stay for a couple of weeks. I was amazed at the number of drunks and beggars out on the streets before 10am the day after I arrived. Went to Exmouth yesterday lunchtime, less drunks but more beggars with a sleeping bag person in a shop doorway.
I thought the homeless had been helped during this last year.
Is this a similar situation in coastal resorts and towns near where you live? If more people are planning on staycations it's not good for our tourist industry.
Are there any solutions?
I thought the homeless had been helped during this last year.
Is this a similar situation in coastal resorts and towns near where you live? If more people are planning on staycations it's not good for our tourist industry.
Are there any solutions?
condor said:
After Covid travel restrictions ended Monday, I drove down to Torquay to stay for a couple of weeks. I was amazed at the number of drunks and beggars out on the streets before 10am the day after I arrived. Went to Exmouth yesterday lunchtime, less drunks but more beggars with a sleeping bag person in a shop doorway.
I thought the homeless had been helped during this last year.
Is this a similar situation in coastal resorts and towns near where you live? If more people are planning on staycations it's not good for our tourist industry.
Are there any solutions?
I'm guessing they don't actually have a start time, lying in may be difficult too.Hence out and about before 10am.I thought the homeless had been helped during this last year.
Is this a similar situation in coastal resorts and towns near where you live? If more people are planning on staycations it's not good for our tourist industry.
Are there any solutions?
I've worked every day throughout the pandemic in central London, and i was thinking that there were hardly any rough sleepers / beggars - I guess having nobody to beg from has an effect.
To be fair, i guess if i had to live outside i'd head to warmer pastures if i could.
Sounds like normal Torquay to me though.
To be fair, i guess if i had to live outside i'd head to warmer pastures if i could.
Sounds like normal Torquay to me though.
Torquay does seem to attract them. I mentioned it to the tourist information people and they said there were 3 regular drunks that all hang about the harbour area but the Street Rangers are there to move them on. Tuesday morning one of them had 3 Police officers talking to him, as the Street Ranger presumably just asks them to sort it. That same drunk was causing a nuisance of himself again yesterday. There are a few pavement Cafe bars with plenty of tourists enjoying brunch/ coffee so am surprised the bar owners aren't more vocal as they can't be good for business.
condor said:
Is this a similar situation in coastal resorts and towns near where you live?
Southeast coast has always been bad for it. Brighton, Folkestone, Hastings. I was dragged to Newquay a few years ago and it was worse there. You can find the same everywhere I think it’s just that inland they will be in parks and not quite so obvious.
I know bigger seaside towns are full of people struggling as the old fashioned B and B places now make their money from housing them.
I saw a program about homelessness is Devon and Cornwall, it was remarkable that they have seasonal homelessness in the summer they work at the holiday parks etc
I’d imagine it’s easy for vulnerable younguns to fall in the cracks and hard to get out
We have a homeless in our affluent market town, but he lets himself down in so many ways that I’d imagine he doesn’t make as much money as when he first arrived. The cynic in me imagines he isn’t actually homeless. Does have bonkers face tattoos so clearly a troubled soul. Frustrating thing is lots of people buy him decent healthy food which he just leaves behind
I saw a program about homelessness is Devon and Cornwall, it was remarkable that they have seasonal homelessness in the summer they work at the holiday parks etc
I’d imagine it’s easy for vulnerable younguns to fall in the cracks and hard to get out
We have a homeless in our affluent market town, but he lets himself down in so many ways that I’d imagine he doesn’t make as much money as when he first arrived. The cynic in me imagines he isn’t actually homeless. Does have bonkers face tattoos so clearly a troubled soul. Frustrating thing is lots of people buy him decent healthy food which he just leaves behind
Was in Brixham earlier today and didn't see any drunks/beggars around the harbour area. There was one a few streets away though. I think the Brixham businesses have managed to keep them out - and there were plenty of tourists eating their fish & chips at table cafes/bars. I ate mine on the harbour wall 
I did get chatting with a Poole resident, who told me that Poole was much worse than Torquay, as that is where most of the London beggars had moved too.
Also mentioned that he'd not seen any beggars in the Lake district.
I did get chatting with a Poole resident, who told me that Poole was much worse than Torquay, as that is where most of the London beggars had moved too.
Also mentioned that he'd not seen any beggars in the Lake district.
Evoluzione said:
Doofus said:
condor said:
Are there any solutions?
You could try being a bit more tolerant. Empathetic, even.Sorry.
Common scenario is for places like Brighton to fill a bus full and provide a night or two b&b in Eastbourne. Leaving it for that town/council to pick resolve when ends.
But as were coming out of lockdown and people arrange uk holidays I suspect they're thinking its better there than in the city.
But as were coming out of lockdown and people arrange uk holidays I suspect they're thinking its better there than in the city.
There are ‘hobos’ and there are council flat dwelling, non genuine, pee taking, chancers, who spend all day begging, then go back to their council flat, with some ASDA budget cider / super strength lager / crack / spice / shrooms, paid for with ‘generous donations’ from passers by, as soon as the sun goes down. If you are out and about in ( insert any town ) during the cold / dark months, after dark, you’ll soon learn which is which. The pee takers pray on ‘passing trade’, the genuine ones ( who need help ) don’t.
Edited by Maximus_Meridius101 on Saturday 17th April 21:11
alorotom said:
I’ve noticed that in recent months a number of homeless in Newcastle and Sunderland have migrated out of the city and into the suburbs.
Again, Jesus Christ. They're people. Spare tyre could have said a homeless man, rather than "a homeless". You could have said homeless people rather than "a number of homeless". Imagine if you'd both said black, or Asian.
s2sol said:
alorotom said:
I’ve noticed that in recent months a number of homeless in Newcastle and Sunderland have migrated out of the city and into the suburbs.
Again, Jesus Christ. They're people. Spare tyre could have said a homeless man, rather than "a homeless". You could have said homeless people rather than "a number of homeless". Imagine if you'd both said black, or Asian.
You can't call anyone anything these days without someone objecting.
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