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Stick Legs

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8,924 posts

194 months

Saturday 15th May 2021
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C n C said:
giveitfish said:
Chocmonster said:
You might also enjoy this website a friend created which covers things many of us who were kids in that era can relate to:
https://hauntedgeneration.co.uk/2019/04/22/thehaun...
Thanks, that looks intriguing!
Also this compilation of public information films etc..

Charley Says
This conversation was running in 'Memories of childhood...' here in the lounge, but I thought before I dragged it off any further OT I would just start a new thread as a repository of all the melancholic goodness those of us interested in Hauntology would like to share.

I have always found the aesthetic of the late 1960's - late 1970's appealing and there are some aspects I find creepy and fascinating in equal measure.
Growing up I was just the odd one out, with a fetishisation of relics from this era. But as time went on I discovered I was not alone.

The first sign that I wasn't alone was the discovery that other people loved Brutalist Architecture, I remember watching Damien Hirst on late night BBC2 discussing his love of a medical school: Now available in the 'Building Sights' series on iPlayer.

Or Jonathan Meades' brilliant 'Aboard in Britain' & 'Further Abroad series'.

The Aesthetic of the original BBC adaptations of the John LeCarre novels, Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy, Smiley's People & A Perfect Spy.

This soon spread to videoing Open University films from the 1970's off early hours BBC2.

The seriously unsettling aesthetic of early Diana Rigg era Avengers, watch 'Silent Dust' Series 4 episode 4.

I feel that some kind of dam broke when almost simultaneously Public Service Broadcasting's first album came out about the same time as BBC iPlayer uploaded Ian Nairn's programmes.

I was not alone!

Then I found Scarfolk on the internet and Concretism's Album and it turned out what I was interested in was Hauntology.

My particular flavour of hauntology resides somewhere between the pending nuclear apocalypse of the late 1960's V-Bombers in anti-flash white and the Typeface Jaguar used for technical publications in the early 1980's. And if that sounds too random and disconnected then maybe hauntology isn't for you.

Mr Peel

635 posts

151 months

Monday 17th May 2021
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You didn't mention Ghost Box Records. If you don't know about them, stand by to empty your wallet. Just about everything they do is great - and exactly in this space you describe.

Stick Legs

Original Poster:

8,924 posts

194 months

Monday 17th May 2021
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Mr Peel said:
You didn't mention Ghost Box Records. If you don't know about them, stand by to empty your wallet. Just about everything they do is great - and exactly in this space you describe.
I am and yes. beer

Prak

840 posts

247 months

Tuesday 18th May 2021
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I became aware of Boards of Canada thanks to Top Gear :

https://youtu.be/Mnlv-yoeC5Y?t=121

hammo19

7,711 posts

225 months

Tuesday 18th May 2021
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I’m with you on the V-Bombers but I have no idea what you are talking about. Would The Prisoner count as a hauntology programme?

tangerine_sedge

6,663 posts

247 months

Tuesday 18th May 2021
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I'd never heard of hauntology before but I think it perfectly captures my memories of the early 70's.

There was a brand of horror /psychological terror that was designed for the childrens market which I don't think we've seen before or since. Children of the stones/The Tomorrow people / Saphire and Steel /Lizzy dripping, plus horror books for children and those public safety ads. I can't think of anything like that for modern children, apart from Dr Who which is for a more adult audience and a throw back to that period anyway!

To answer the above question, I think 'The Prisoner' is definitely in this category; colourful and pleasant at first view, but dystopian and bleak underneath.

conkerman

3,513 posts

164 months

Tuesday 18th May 2021
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Prak said:
I became aware of Boards of Canada thanks to Top Gear :

https://youtu.be/Mnlv-yoeC5Y?t=121
Salad fingers for me.

Stick Legs

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8,924 posts

194 months

Tuesday 18th May 2021
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hammo19 said:
Would The Prisoner count as a hauntology programme?
Very much so. As someone else said the blend of the outwardly pleasant and benign with the undercurrent of unpleasantness is perfectly of it's time.

See also 'The Wicker Man'.

Louis Balfour

28,176 posts

251 months

Tuesday 18th May 2021
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tangerine_sedge said:
There was a brand of horror /psychological terror that was designed for the childrens market which I don't think we've seen before or since....The Tomorrow people.....
This I used to find properly creepy. Even the theme music and images were creepy. There was one story line where a girl had a bomb planted inside her body and she leapt to her death from a window as it exploded, to save other people.

It is a wonder us children of the 70s aren't more damaged.laugh
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Johnnytheboy

24,499 posts

215 months

Tuesday 18th May 2021
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The public information films were terrifying.

I was made to sit and watch an hour long film about farm safety in ~1980. No trigger warnings, we were just sat down in the school hall, and BAM:


rxtx

6,050 posts

239 months

Tuesday 18th May 2021
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I remember watching the farm safety video, didn't stop us though.

The theme tune to Tales of the Unexpected is still a bit unsettling.

SpeckledJim

34,057 posts

282 months

Tuesday 18th May 2021
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Good thread.

The mention of the old Jaguar typeface was perfect. I know exactly what you mean.

I'd throw in the Green Cross Code man, BMX Bandits, and Escape to Witch Mountain

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0072951/


ETA:

This place is right up your street. Veeeery creepy.

https://hackgreen.co.uk/




Edited by SpeckledJim on Tuesday 18th May 14:08

Louis Balfour

28,176 posts

251 months

Tuesday 18th May 2021
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I remember all media being spookiness heavy in the 70s. Local news programmes routinely had pieces about hauntings, UFOs or aliens. Ditto the mainstream printed media. As a small child it was a bit scary to be honest.

Perhaps it was the media's way of distracting us from bad fashion, hair and music. I remember the 70s and 80s as being a dark and not very happy period. Things only really improved late 80s onwards.


KAgantua

5,165 posts

160 months

Tuesday 18th May 2021
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Numbers stations.

SpeckledJim

34,057 posts

282 months

Tuesday 18th May 2021
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New Towns


SpeckledJim

34,057 posts

282 months

Tuesday 18th May 2021
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Municipal libraries, steel climbing frames, and swimming pools.

(this is going to completely dominate my afternoon now. Thanks a bunch. smile)

Louis Balfour

28,176 posts

251 months

Tuesday 18th May 2021
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SpeckledJim said:
Municipal libraries, steel climbing frames, and swimming pools.

(this is going to completely dominate my afternoon now. Thanks a bunch. smile)
Swimming pools were transitioning then.

I recall starting my childhood not wanting to go into an ornate Victorian pool with changing around the edge, to not wanting to go into a modern 1970s affair made of concrete and plastic. In both, there always seemed to be someone disabled in the showers, seemingly for the express purpose of unsettling children. It's okay I can say that, it happened before being horrible about disabled people was bad.




take-good-care-of-the-forest-dewey

7,868 posts

84 months

Tuesday 18th May 2021
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Those films did work. I've never been swimming in a disused quarry when there's an eerie mist around... Nor climbed I'm an old fridge.

Johnnytheboy

24,499 posts

215 months

Tuesday 18th May 2021
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SpeckledJim said:
Good thread.

The mention of the old Jaguar typeface was perfect. I know exactly what you mean.
I'd love to see an example of this. My nomination would be the Profil font. Suddenly I'm eight again:


Stick Legs

Original Poster:

8,924 posts

194 months

Tuesday 18th May 2021
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KAgantua said:
Numbers stations.
100%. And the high speed morse you could hear on SW at night.