Does anyone ever change their mind?
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I've been on pistonheads more than most. Over the years I've taken part in threads that I felt passionately about. I've taken part in threads that I actually had first hand experience in, as well as the usual 'throw an opinion in' threads. I've also watched a lot of threads just because its fun to watch the dynamic slowly evolve, or because the person talking teaches me something I didn't know, or throws a light into a world I'll never experience.
However in all that time I can't remember a single thread where someone starts the thread with one opinion and finishes with another.
So I thought I'd start a thread named 'Does anyone ever change their mind', or I could have started a thread saying 'Does anyone ever apologise'
It would be nice to have links to threads where you could actually see that happen, because I can't remember every seeing either over the last couple of years. And if I'm right and no-one ever changes their mind, then how does one make that happen?
However in all that time I can't remember a single thread where someone starts the thread with one opinion and finishes with another.
So I thought I'd start a thread named 'Does anyone ever change their mind', or I could have started a thread saying 'Does anyone ever apologise'
It would be nice to have links to threads where you could actually see that happen, because I can't remember every seeing either over the last couple of years. And if I'm right and no-one ever changes their mind, then how does one make that happen?
On ideological matters: rarely. Though I've become far less vocally atheist than I used to be, as it aligns me with some real dick posters, and I realise I'm not going to change anyone's mind, ironically.
Where you do quite frequently see people's minds changed is 'what car' threads, when people come in with a binary choice and are advised of the existence of an alternative.
Where you do quite frequently see people's minds changed is 'what car' threads, when people come in with a binary choice and are advised of the existence of an alternative.
Do you mean change your mind, or change your opinion.
In that, I've lots of opinions about things, most of which I've little actual experience of.
Sometimes, my opinions are wrong.
However, I realise this and would therefore caveat my opinions are sometimes wrong.
I'm not sure when I've taken the time to actually experience something, I'll change my mind easily.
In that, I've lots of opinions about things, most of which I've little actual experience of.
Sometimes, my opinions are wrong.
However, I realise this and would therefore caveat my opinions are sometimes wrong.
I'm not sure when I've taken the time to actually experience something, I'll change my mind easily.
I'm trying to think of anything (significant) I have changed my mind about. I am always open to alternative viewpoints, but not sure if I've every actually been swayed by their arguments. Minor things, like opinions on food, brands, transport etc. yes, more fundamental political or ethical leanings, then no, I don't think so.
It's because strongly held opinions or beliefs are processed by an area of the brain called the amygdala. The amygdala is also the emotional processer of the brain and the area activated we feel feel physically threatened.
Even with all the proof, facts and figures presented to counter an incorrect belief, the brain will still treat this conflicting opinion as strongly as a direct physical threat to our person.
It's been hardwired into us since we climbed trees (or didn't climb trees dependent on your belief
)
Even with all the proof, facts and figures presented to counter an incorrect belief, the brain will still treat this conflicting opinion as strongly as a direct physical threat to our person.
It's been hardwired into us since we climbed trees (or didn't climb trees dependent on your belief
)Yes, but not from PH exposure.
I was initially fairly anti-Trans rights. Didn't get it and it seemed a lot of of "blokes want to go into the ladies' loos" or want to be put in a women's prison. But discussing the situation with people with far more knowledge and experience has made me change my mind.
If i limited my experience just to PH, then i think i would just have become more and more bitter and twisted
I was initially fairly anti-Trans rights. Didn't get it and it seemed a lot of of "blokes want to go into the ladies' loos" or want to be put in a women's prison. But discussing the situation with people with far more knowledge and experience has made me change my mind.
If i limited my experience just to PH, then i think i would just have become more and more bitter and twisted
dundarach said:
Do you mean change your mind, or change your opinion.
In that, I've lots of opinions about things, most of which I've little actual experience of.
Sometimes, my opinions are wrong.
However, I realise this and would therefore caveat my opinions are sometimes wrong.
I'm not sure when I've taken the time to actually experience something, I'll change my mind easily.
I think this is the crux of the matter with PH. Many - or most - put up a question or opinion for discussion. Sooner or later the OP will get slaughtered. It then either ends in the thread being deleted by the OP, or the OP doing the offski completely. In that, I've lots of opinions about things, most of which I've little actual experience of.
Sometimes, my opinions are wrong.
However, I realise this and would therefore caveat my opinions are sometimes wrong.
I'm not sure when I've taken the time to actually experience something, I'll change my mind easily.
Sometimes is becomes a battle of wit as some will try and justify their opinion just to prove Mistra Knowitall wrong or gain the ascendancy/moral high ground.
Brexit.
I voted Remain because I was quite happy with the status quo. I'm not a mad EU fan who hums 'Ode to joy' as he walks down the street but I also didn't see any of the purported benefits of leaving.
I now think it may not have been a terrible idea, also the 'Rejoiners' now appear as swivel eyed as the hardcore Leave mob did in 2016.
Someone challenged me on this position a few months ago with the phrase 'Well you can't have voted Remain if that's how you feel!", Yeah, okay.
To not be able to change your mind condemns you to having to fight every battle as if it was your last. I think the world could do with a lot more ambivalence.
I voted Remain because I was quite happy with the status quo. I'm not a mad EU fan who hums 'Ode to joy' as he walks down the street but I also didn't see any of the purported benefits of leaving.
I now think it may not have been a terrible idea, also the 'Rejoiners' now appear as swivel eyed as the hardcore Leave mob did in 2016.
Someone challenged me on this position a few months ago with the phrase 'Well you can't have voted Remain if that's how you feel!", Yeah, okay.
To not be able to change your mind condemns you to having to fight every battle as if it was your last. I think the world could do with a lot more ambivalence.
Stick Legs said:
Brexit.
I voted Remain because I was quite happy with the status quo. I'm not a mad EU fan who hums 'Ode to joy' as he walks down the street but I also didn't see any of the purported benefits of leaving.
I now think it may not have been a terrible idea, also the 'Rejoiners' now appear as swivel eyed as the hardcore Leave mob did in 2016.
Someone challenged me on this position a few months ago with the phrase 'Well you can't have voted Remain if that's how you feel!", Yeah, okay.
To not be able to change your mind condemns you to having to fight every battle as if it was your last. I think the world could do with a lot more ambivalence.
Initially I genuinely struggled to decide which way to vote on Brexit as I could see benefits both sides but ended up plumping for Remain. I ended up getting quite entrenched in that view.I voted Remain because I was quite happy with the status quo. I'm not a mad EU fan who hums 'Ode to joy' as he walks down the street but I also didn't see any of the purported benefits of leaving.
I now think it may not have been a terrible idea, also the 'Rejoiners' now appear as swivel eyed as the hardcore Leave mob did in 2016.
Someone challenged me on this position a few months ago with the phrase 'Well you can't have voted Remain if that's how you feel!", Yeah, okay.
To not be able to change your mind condemns you to having to fight every battle as if it was your last. I think the world could do with a lot more ambivalence.
Then the vote happened and I decided that the past was the past and the most important thing was now to just get on with it.
So I dropped any resistance and started looking for the positives, of which there are quite a few.
I find it too easy to "change my mind" about so many things, especially social, political or moral issues that don't really affect me directly.
Things like immigration, welfare benefits, NHS funding, criminal justice/sentencing, drug use, sexuality, etc. Basically, all the things that get gammons frothing at the mouth.
My problem is, I am a life-long tory voter (well, until the last 10 years), but I seem to be developing more of a social conscience as I approach retirement age. I can see both sides of most arguments, and I can flip between the two, depending on how I'm feeling at the time. It can be very frustrating!
Things like immigration, welfare benefits, NHS funding, criminal justice/sentencing, drug use, sexuality, etc. Basically, all the things that get gammons frothing at the mouth.
My problem is, I am a life-long tory voter (well, until the last 10 years), but I seem to be developing more of a social conscience as I approach retirement age. I can see both sides of most arguments, and I can flip between the two, depending on how I'm feeling at the time. It can be very frustrating!
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