Anti-woke

[rolex]

Just a simple question. Does being anti-woke make you a Luddite?

[Esceptico]

Depends what you mean by woke. Most people either don’t know what it means or think it means something other than what it meant originally:

https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/articles-repo...

[Kermit power]

I don't see how the two are even related?

What does a dislike of new technology, especially in the workplace have to do with political views?

[Teddy Lop]

rolex said:

Just a simple question. Does being anti-woke make you a Luddite?

The instagoto for anyone with an adamant belief which isnt wholly reconciled is to attack the one questioning it and not the question.

So yes.

[Quhet]

Kermit power said:

I don't see how the two are even related?

What does a dislike of new technology, especially in the workplace have to do with political views?

This. I think luddite is the wrong word here.

[Bill]

Quhet said:

This. I think luddite is the wrong word here.

I suppose it's possible he means he doesn't like this expensive new fangled mechanisation when he can get black people to pick cotton for free??

[Kermit power]

Bill said:

Quhet said:

This. I think luddite is the wrong word here.

I suppose it's possible he means he doesn't like this expensive new fangled mechanisation when he can get black people to pick cotton for free??

[Spare tyre]

I’m a jamaican lesbian with no legs who lives in social housing.

[x5tuu]

Esceptico said:

Depends what you mean by woke. Most people either don’t know what it means or think it means something other than what it meant originally:

https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/articles-repo...

But in reality woke is more likely linked to cancel culture and many people seem to consider that they go hand in hand and the meaning is morphing because for this (irrespective of its roots)

[InitialDave]

rolex said:

Just a simple question. Does being anti-woke make you a Luddite?

The simple answer is no.

The less simple answer would require defining the term in the first place.

[Esceptico]

Spare tyre said:

I’m a jamaican lesbian with no legs who lives in social housing.

The Toten Hosen wrote a song about you:

https://youtu.be/22SiW9bFzsg

[D1bram]

I think the term Woke has been twisted and misrepresented the past 12 months, to the point it is now used interchangeably with the term 'snowflake'; usually by someone who likes to get themselves wound up fantasizing over none existent world gone mad scenarios; they're cancelling Christmas etc....


Woke, I believe, refers to being fully aware of the plights suffered by minorities, originally Black Americans but more recently a wider spectrum of minority groups.

Think about how many times for example you hear a white person say 'racism isn't a problem in this country anymore'. Not only is this incorrect, but it is also spoken from a position of inexperience and I suppose is the anti to woke.

[Skyedriver]

Woke up this morning at 4 oclock
Didn't want to but couldn't get back to sleep
Does that make me anti - woke?

[Clockwork Cupcake]

D1bram said:

I think the term Woke has been twisted and misrepresented the past 12 months, to the point it is now used interchangeably with the term 'snowflake'; usually by someone who likes to get themselves wound up fantasizing over none existent world gone mad scenarios; they're cancelling Christmas etc....


Woke, I believe, refers to being fully aware of the plights suffered by minorities, originally Black Americans but more recently a wider spectrum of minority groups.

Think about how many times for example you hear a white person say 'racism isn't a problem in this country anymore'. Not only is this incorrect, but it is also spoken from a position of inexperience and I suppose is the anti to woke.

Exactly so.

I used to be of the opinion that the word meant being aware of, and sensitive to, minorities issues, and to not being a racist dick. And, as such, considered it to be something to aspire to being.

It has since been pointed out to me that the word has now morphed into meaning "Politically Correct libtard left wing hipster snowflake" and become a pejorative term. Which, I think is a shame as I preferred the original meaning.

Regardless of what the word now means, I think the values for which it originally stood for are something to aspire to.

[coppernorks]

it's entirely possible to be despairing at the lunatic excesses of wokeness [ people who menstruate, ]
while embracing the general thrust and gist of the defence and support of minorities.

[Clockwork Cupcake]

coppernorks said:

[ people who menstruate, ]

Actually, and as an aside, that one was actually fair enough I thought. For a product to do with menstruation, surely it is only aimed at people who, you know, actually menstruate and not applicable to those that don't (pre-pubescent girls, post-menopausal women, women who have had hysterectomies, trans women, and any other woman who doesn't menstruate for whatever reason). I don't really get what the whole hoo-ha was. Just seemed descriptive to me.

[kambites]

It's a bit of s shame that the word "woke" has been hijacked to mean ludicrously PC. Its original (positive) meaning was, in many ways, far more useful.

[bitchstewie]

I think it's just turned into a bit of shorthand for "anyone who disagrees with me" a lot of the time.

Working from home? Woke.

Petrol panic is a gift to the woke work from home hardliners

Stand against racism racism? Woke.

Woke activists will tell you otherwise - but taking the knee will always be a controversial gesture

The Telegraph really like the word

[coppernorks]

Clockwork Cupcake said:

Actually, and as an aside, that one was actually fair enough I thought. For a product to do with menstruation, surely it is only aimed at people who, you know, actually menstruate and not applicable to those that don't (pre-pubescent girls, post-menopausal women, women who have had hysterectomies, trans women, and any other woman who doesn't menstruate for whatever reason). I don't really get what the whole hoo-ha was. Just seemed descriptive to me.

As only humans with 2 X chromosomes can ever menstruate I have the long held the belief that the
word Women adequately described that half of the populace, and as you say some women will never
menstruate for various reasons but they will still possess 2 X chromosomes and still be Women, but those with an X and Y
chromosome cannot ever menstruate, they are called Men.

[Clockwork Cupcake]

coppernorks said:

As only humans with 2 X chromosomes can ever menstruate I have the long held the belief that the
word Women adequately described that half of the populace, and as you say some women will never
menstruate for various reasons but they will still possess 2 X chromosomes and still be Women, but those with an X and Y
chromosome cannot ever menstruate, they are called Men.

I do not want to have a transgender debate with you. So let's just move on.