Random things that aren't there in Google Maps
Random things that aren't there in Google Maps
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Johnnytheboy

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24,499 posts

215 months

Monday 20th June 2022
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Anyone who has been to Heathrow regularly may know there's what looks like an old green aeroplane parked near the hangars at Hatton Cross.

It's actually a fire training fake plane which features design elements from several planes.

In the link below you can see it close up on Streetview, yet it is clearly absent when viewed from above. I'm pretty certain it hasn't moved in years, so someone has ensured it cannot be seen.

https://maps.app.goo.gl/fN3YEWiBCMvFKhR29

Even odder, if you pan out a bit, you'll see there is not a single plane at a gate in the whole of Heathrow, though a couple are taxiing. This seems a trifle.... unlikely... I assume again they've been deleted?

I can't for the life of me think why.

Can anyone else give any good examples of obvious things which have been removed from Google Maps for no obvious reason?

Mods: this isn't just a thread about planes, please don't put it in the planes, trains etc subforum.



bigandclever

14,347 posts

267 months

Monday 20th June 2022
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Composite images, innit. Stitch a few together, keeping only the common items .. so since planes can move about a bit, they won't be in the same place in each image and will be removed. It's why you don't see millions of cars on the M25 for instance.

Doesn't necessarily explain the missing fire training plane though, although given how close it appears to be to the gate, maybe it actually has moved over the years?

ETA Bing doesn't care smile



Edited by bigandclever on Monday 20th June 16:51

MattyD803

2,408 posts

94 months

Monday 20th June 2022
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Not sure and clutching at straws, but if you look on the 2D and 3D satellite photos / imagery, you can see what looks like foam on the floor? I wonder if sod's law dictated that during the process of taking that specific set of imagery recently, there was a training exercise underway, and as such there were flames or smoke visible....hence they deliberately went out of their way to "repair" or "touch up" the image & remove the actual plane (including those associated flames and smoke), just for clarity?

In fact, on second thoughts, ALL planes have been removed from Heathrow airport on the aerial view (except Concorde).....i'm pretty sure this has NEVER actually occured at LHR in the last 50 years and so I guess this automatically done by the imaging software....hence the green training plane has gone also, as it fits that shape/profile. It must be to ensure an unobstructed satellite view when uploaded, although strangely there are lots of planes sat at LGW.

Edited by MattyD803 on Monday 20th June 16:55

StevieBee

15,304 posts

284 months

Monday 20th June 2022
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On a hill just on the outskirts of South Woodham Ferrers in Essex was / is a radar station. Clearly visible to passing traffic and lots of rumours about it but was in fact a testing facility for Marconi (https://marconiradarhistory.pbworks.com/f/secrets%20of%20Bushy.pdf). The footprint of the place is a reasonable size but for years didn't appear on any OS map (just indicated as a field) and only recently has it appeared on Google Earth having previously been air-brushed out. That said, there remain several strictures and what I assume are large covers that should be visible on GE but aren't there, a fact that keeps the local rumours burbling along!

Gareth79

9,016 posts

275 months

Monday 20th June 2022
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I don't think anything is manually edited, I think it's based on several aircraft passes from different directions and then anything which moves between the passes is removed as part of the algorithm.

Johnnytheboy

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24,499 posts

215 months

Monday 20th June 2022
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Gareth79 said:
I don't think anything is manually edited, I think it's based on several aircraft passes from different directions and then anything which moves between the passes is removed as part of the algorithm.
Yes but the green thing has been there since at least the 90s!

AL5026

489 posts

217 months

Monday 20th June 2022
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I learnt this week that you can request to have your house blurred out in Google Streetview. However, once it has been done, it can’t be undone. So if you move on, the new owners will not be able to view their house on Streetview.

StevieBee

15,304 posts

284 months

Monday 20th June 2022
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Gareth79 said:
I don't think anything is manually edited, I think it's based on several aircraft passes from different directions and then anything which moves between the passes is removed as part of the algorithm.
Satellites, not aircraft.

The South Woodham Example was definitely deliberate editing because older OS maps did not show the buildings, aerial OS shots that pre-date Google had it removed as did early passes of Google Earth. I can actually understand why given the sort of work Marconi did back in the day and can only assume such activity is more benign today given that it's now clearly in view.

Writhing

654 posts

138 months

Getragdogleg

10,200 posts

212 months

Monday 20th June 2022
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Writhing said:
So secret I can't actually see any content on that website.

Just adverts.

Johnnytheboy

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24,499 posts

215 months

Monday 20th June 2022
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AL5026 said:
I learnt this week that you can request to have your house blurred out in Google Streetview. However, once it has been done, it can’t be undone. So if you move on, the new owners will not be able to view their house on Streetview.
My brother lives in Germany. Judging from the street view round where he lives this is very popular.

The only one in our road used to belong to a man with David Icke stickers in his Land Rover, so no surprises there.

DoctorX

8,218 posts

196 months

Monday 20th June 2022
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Getragdogleg said:
Writhing said:
So secret I can't actually see any content on that website.

Just adverts.
You have to work at it but there’s some fascinating stuff on there. Website is a disaster though.

Matt_E_Mulsion

1,746 posts

94 months

Monday 20th June 2022
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DoctorX said:
Website is a disaster though.
You can say that again!

Dan_H

1,136 posts

273 months

Monday 20th June 2022
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Very few cars in the Heathrow car parks also.

normalbloke

8,852 posts

248 months

Tuesday 21st June 2022
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French nuclear power stations…

Whats on Second

732 posts

62 months

Tuesday 21st June 2022
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faslane naval base is there in detail on google satellite.

but I suppose the ruskies
have their own satellites and are not really relying on google maps to plan a nuclear strike.

Johnnytheboy

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24,499 posts

215 months

Tuesday 21st June 2022
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bigandclever said:
Composite images, innit. Stitch a few together, keeping only the common items .. so since planes can move about a bit, they won't be in the same place in each image and will be removed. It's why you don't see millions of cars on the M25 for instance.
Interestingly (and PH-worthy), Brands Hatch has cars racing round it. driving


stemll

5,558 posts

229 months

Tuesday 21st June 2022
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StevieBee said:
Gareth79 said:
I don't think anything is manually edited, I think it's based on several aircraft passes from different directions and then anything which moves between the passes is removed as part of the algorithm.
Satellites, not aircraft.
Both satellites and aircraft.

https://support.google.com/earth/answer/6327779?hl...

Huff

3,422 posts

220 months

Tuesday 21st June 2022
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Lee Harvey Oswald...


elanfan

5,527 posts

256 months

Tuesday 21st June 2022
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Mine doesn’t show motorway junction numbers which you would have thought would be useful.