Is this suit really worth it?
Is this suit really worth it?
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Hoofy

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80,006 posts

311 months

Friday 15th July 2022
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Dunno where to post this. Don't think we have a fashion section.

Anyway, consider this more a Fun Friday Fread than a serious post.

Occasionally, I like to browse TKMaxx's website.

Today I spotted this billy bargain at 78% off.

https://www.tkmaxx.com/uk/en/men/clothing/suits/br...

(1) Is it worth it at £649.99?
(2) Was it worth it at £3010?

Anyone who knows me will know that I'm not very informed on fashion although thanks to PH I now know that
(1) A North Face fleece is not the height of sartorial excellence.
(2) Never EVER under any circumstance button up the lowest button. Doing so may increase the risk of cancer, diabetes, heart disease and strokes.

Largechris

2,019 posts

120 months

Friday 15th July 2022
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Looks like Sergio Georgio to me

Turtle Shed

2,992 posts

55 months

Friday 15th July 2022
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Nobody, and I mean nobody, ever needs to venture further into the world of fashion that Sainsbury's 'TU' range.

On a budget? Then George at Asda.

Thank me later.

bigandclever

14,347 posts

267 months

Friday 15th July 2022
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Old Brunello will flog you a pair of cotton socks for £200 if you ask nicely enough. So on that basis a couple of grand for a suit is almost reasonable. I could link to the cashmere ones, they're £350 laugh

https://shop.brunellocucinelli.com/en-gb/men/acces...

Edited by bigandclever on Friday 15th July 13:34

Shnozz

30,630 posts

300 months

Friday 15th July 2022
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Turtle Shed said:
Nobody, and I mean nobody, ever needs to venture further into the world of fashion that Sainsbury's 'TU' range.

On a budget? Then George at Asda.

Thank me later.
So very PH.

Hoofy

Original Poster:

80,006 posts

311 months

Friday 15th July 2022
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Shnozz said:
Turtle Shed said:
Nobody, and I mean nobody, ever needs to venture further into the world of fashion that Sainsbury's 'TU' range.

On a budget? Then George at Asda.

Thank me later.
So very PH.
*bins his North Face fleece* grumpy

thewarlock

3,285 posts

74 months

Friday 15th July 2022
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Turtle Shed said:
Nobody, and I mean nobody, ever needs to venture further into the world of fashion that Sainsbury's 'TU' range.

On a budget? Then George at Asda.

Thank me later.
Jesus, really?

You buy suits, shoes, and your nice clothes in a supermarket?

Shnozz

30,630 posts

300 months

Friday 15th July 2022
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thewarlock said:
Jesus, really?

You buy suits, shoes, and your nice clothes in a supermarket?
You can see why the match.com thread is so populated on this forum.

PositronicRay

28,958 posts

212 months

Friday 15th July 2022
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thewarlock said:
Turtle Shed said:
Nobody, and I mean nobody, ever needs to venture further into the world of fashion that Sainsbury's 'TU' range.

On a budget? Then George at Asda.

Thank me later.
Jesus, really?

You buy suits, shoes, and your nice clothes in a supermarket?
I'd go further not just nice clothes.

(Screwfix is pretty good too, plenty of pockets and stuff)

Spare tyre

12,545 posts

159 months

Friday 15th July 2022
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BRUNELLO CUCINELLI

His uncle Gino did lovely ice cream in the 80s

anonymous-user

83 months

Friday 15th July 2022
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The problem is... The fit/cut of a suit is usually far more important than the brand or even quality of the material.

That suit is the thick end of £700, and unless you get really lucky, it will most likely be a poor fit on you, and require various alterations anyway, which will cost you.

It would be a far better idea to buy a 'made to measure' suit, available from a number of different places, for similar money. That way you get to choose the fabric/colour and also be ensured of a good fit.

Made to measure starts from about £500-600, and there is a lot of choice under £1000. You can even get a Hackett made to measure from around £800.

https://www.gq-magazine.co.uk/gallery/best-made-to...

In short: That TK Maxx suit isn't worth it, unless you happen to love the colour/fabric, and also happen to get lucky and it fits perfectly when you try it.

PositronicRay

28,958 posts

212 months

Friday 15th July 2022
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Lord Marylebone said:
The problem is... The fit/cut of a suit is usually far more important than the brand or even quality of the material.

That suit is the thick end of £700, and unless you get really lucky, it will most likely be a poor fit on you, and require various alterations anyway, which will cost you.

It would be a far better idea to buy a 'made to measure' suit, available from a number of different places, for similar money. That way you get to choose the fabric/colour and also be ensured of a good fit.

Made to measure starts from about £500-600, and there is a lot of choice under £1000. You can even get a Hackett made to measure from around £800.

https://www.gq-magazine.co.uk/gallery/best-made-to...

In short: That TK Maxx suit isn't worth it, unless you happen to love the colour/fabric, and also happen to get lucky and it fits perfectly when you try it.
I'd have to agree, this one's the similar.

https://www.tkmaxx.com/uk/en/men/clothing/suits/ma...

gl20

1,198 posts

178 months

Friday 15th July 2022
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Lord Marylebone said:
The problem is... The fit/cut of a suit is usually far more important than the brand or even quality of the material.

That suit is the thick end of £700, and unless you get really lucky, it will most likely be a poor fit on you, and require various alterations anyway, which will cost you.

It would be a far better idea to buy a 'made to measure' suit, available from a number of different places, for similar money. That way you get to choose the fabric/colour and also be ensured of a good fit.

Made to measure starts from about £500-600, and there is a lot of choice under £1000. You can even get a Hackett made to measure from around £800.

https://www.gq-magazine.co.uk/gallery/best-made-to...

In short: That TK Maxx suit isn't worth it, unless you happen to love the colour/fabric, and also happen to get lucky and it fits perfectly when you try it.
Exactly this. I’m curious as to how this suit made it into TK M. I assumed anything they got in was off-the-peg, albeit sometimes designed off-the-peg. It makes no sense for anyone ever to spend the original price on a peg suit. So was it made to measure, but rejected by the customer, then somehow made it to TKM? Either way, unless you’re the twin of whoever this suit was made for, It won’t be worth it.

(Claim to fame time - in my early 20s I sometimes ‘modelled’ for a tailor who was developing their off the peg range and needed to work out a sensible fit. I can assume this meant I had a totally average body shape.. )

anonymous-user

83 months

Friday 15th July 2022
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PositronicRay said:
I'd have to agree, this one's the similar.

https://www.tkmaxx.com/uk/en/men/clothing/suits/ma...
For £169 that one is probably worth a punt, because you hardly get anything for that price. If it fits to a reasonable standard then it's all good.

It's just once you get up to £700-ish, as per the other suit, there are far better options out there, and massively more choice for the same money. Not worth paying £700 for an off-the-peg in the hope it fits. Might as well spend that getting a made to measure in the fabric of your choosing.

Turtle Shed

2,992 posts

55 months

Friday 15th July 2022
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thewarlock said:
Turtle Shed said:
Nobody, and I mean nobody, ever needs to venture further into the world of fashion that Sainsbury's 'TU' range.

On a budget? Then George at Asda.

Thank me later.
Jesus, really?

You buy suits, shoes, and your nice clothes in a supermarket?
Haven't bought a suit for three decades. Occasional 'nice clothes' in M&S but that's pretty much it.

gl20

1,198 posts

178 months

Friday 15th July 2022
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Lord Marylebone said:
The problem is... The fit/cut of a suit is usually far more important than the brand or even quality of the material.

That suit is the thick end of £700, and unless you get really lucky, it will most likely be a poor fit on you, and require various alterations anyway, which will cost you.

It would be a far better idea to buy a 'made to measure' suit, available from a number of different places, for similar money. That way you get to choose the fabric/colour and also be ensured of a good fit.

Made to measure starts from about £500-600, and there is a lot of choice under £1000. You can even get a Hackett made to measure from around £800.

https://www.gq-magazine.co.uk/gallery/best-made-to...

In short: That TK Maxx suit isn't worth it, unless you happen to love the colour/fabric, and also happen to get lucky and it fits perfectly when you try it.
Exactly this. I’m curious as to how this suit made it into TK M. I assumed anything they got in was off-the-peg, albeit sometimes designed off-the-peg. It makes no sense for anyone ever to spend the original price on a peg suit. So was it made to measure, but rejected by the customer, then somehow made it to TKM? Either way, unless you’re the twin of whoever this suit was made for, It won’t be worth it.

(Claim to fame time - in my early 20s I sometimes ‘modelled’ for a tailor who was developing their off the peg range and needed to work out a sensible fit. I can assume this meant I had a totally average body shape.. )

Mr Penguin

4,685 posts

68 months

Friday 15th July 2022
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gl20 said:
Exactly this. I’m curious as to how this suit made it into TK M. I assumed anything they got in was off-the-peg, albeit sometimes designed off-the-peg. It makes no sense for anyone ever to spend the original price on a peg suit. So was it made to measure, but rejected by the customer, then somehow made it to TKM? Either way, unless you’re the twin of whoever this suit was made for, It won’t be worth it.
(Claim to fame time - in my early 20s I sometimes ‘modelled’ for a tailor who was developing their off the peg range and needed to work out a sensible fit. I can assume this meant I had a totally average body shape.. )
If the original customer and the new customer have a fairly average body shape, it will probably be OK with tailoring (unless it was rejected as a dud). Its not a typical cloth so might be made for someone who wants MTM or bespoke because they want clothes that look distinctive, rather than because they have a wonky shoulder.

I think its worth a go since it can always be returned.

Condi

20,308 posts

200 months

Friday 15th July 2022
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gl20 said:
So was it made to measure, but rejected by the customer, then somehow made it to TKM? Either way, unless you’re the twin of whoever this suit was made for, It won’t be worth it.
Not necessarily, fashion houses have "off the peg" suits which are then adjusted for the customer as required. Much quicker turnaround than a custom made product and cheaper to produce. The £3k RRP might well have included a fitting session and adjustment.

EDIT - a custom suit is great until you put on weight/lose weight/go to the gym and get bigger shoulders etc.

Edited by Condi on Friday 15th July 14:13

Jamescrs

6,363 posts

94 months

Friday 15th July 2022
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Suits are overrated IMO, I've been wearing them now for about 20 years on and off and i have come to really dislike them.

Currently waiting for a start date on a new job where I will be wearing casual clothing and I hope to never wear a suit again apart from the odd funeral. I'm looking forward to throwing them all out apart from one and maybe three formal shirts just in case.

mmm-five

12,323 posts

313 months

Friday 15th July 2022
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TK Maxx are known for 2 things (according to Channel 4 Dispatches):
  1. using heavily-inflated, fake RRPs
  2. using RRPs of boutique designer items instead of the actual RRP for the budget versions that they buy from the same design house
Channel4 said:
  • Despite advertising promising big labels and famous brands, many items sold in TK Maxx are actually own brand “private label” products – using a multitude of names such as like Arabella and Addison, Kenar, Amaryllis Amphora and Frederik Anderson of Copenhagen
  • Price tags that a trading standards expert says breach government guidelines on Recommended Retail Prices (RRPs), discounts and savings:
  • With some products having a TK Maxx RRP significantly higher than the price we could find the products on sale at elsewhere
  • RRPs on some own brand products in contravention of TK Maxx’s own policy which says that own brands should not carry RRPs
  • Misleading labelling of a product as ‘Current Season’ at TK Maxx
  • Previous designer products made bespoke for TK Maxx
  • We hear from a former production manager who worked for the Nicole Farhi brand until 2009 when it was under different ownership than it is now , producing a bespoke Nicole Farhi line for TK Maxx. She said the garments were “cheaper level products”
I fell for it once when I spotted some bargain Jean-Claude Killy skiing gear (£2k RRP, checked elsewhere) for £400.

Fell apart before my 2 weeks skiing in Canada was up, and I bought some Burton stuff instead. Came back with it and TKM said it had been 'heavily used' and wouldn't do anything about it.

Checked some comparisons with 'genuine' versions online and found out some of the ways they make their versions cheaper (lower cost materials & manufacturing for shell, filling, non-waterproof seams, zippers, pockets, etc.).

Never been there since.

Edited by mmm-five on Friday 15th July 14:30