Never had a job...
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From another thread in the Lounge but how do people do this....
Now I've no resentment for the guy (apart from his weeds spread to our garden) but a neighbour is in his 50s and has never had a job. Inherited the house off the father (not sure when / where the mother went as only known him 20 years) and has an income "from some of my Dads fund he invested". Basically performs dog sitting for the two sisters of the family in the day so "bit busy to get a job".
Nice bloke, suits him well, at first meet you may call him a layabout but seems to mean no harm and has no asks of anyone.
I knew his Dad was clever (he was 50 years older than the son) when I spoke to him...he died five or so years ago. The Dad was an apprentice trainer prior to WW2 in steelworks. In WW2 he was a ferry pilot of fighter planes to African. He returned and was a teacher, long past his retirement date as kids loved him. He retired from teaching at 72 and then did a PhD in Astrophysics!!!!!
I once asked my neighbour "No offense mate, but you Dad did loads of stuff, why don't you do something like that.......".... the answer was "Bitcoin".!!!!!
Still can't understand why you'd stay at home all day with a couple yappy dogs and a load of money in the bank and never go anywhere in your life....
Now I've no resentment for the guy (apart from his weeds spread to our garden) but a neighbour is in his 50s and has never had a job. Inherited the house off the father (not sure when / where the mother went as only known him 20 years) and has an income "from some of my Dads fund he invested". Basically performs dog sitting for the two sisters of the family in the day so "bit busy to get a job".
Nice bloke, suits him well, at first meet you may call him a layabout but seems to mean no harm and has no asks of anyone.
I knew his Dad was clever (he was 50 years older than the son) when I spoke to him...he died five or so years ago. The Dad was an apprentice trainer prior to WW2 in steelworks. In WW2 he was a ferry pilot of fighter planes to African. He returned and was a teacher, long past his retirement date as kids loved him. He retired from teaching at 72 and then did a PhD in Astrophysics!!!!!
I once asked my neighbour "No offense mate, but you Dad did loads of stuff, why don't you do something like that.......".... the answer was "Bitcoin".!!!!!
Still can't understand why you'd stay at home all day with a couple yappy dogs and a load of money in the bank and never go anywhere in your life....
t all the time but each to their own I think most people wouldn't have issues with a person who was not employed in the UK economy, as long as they were not living on taxpayer's money for income.
If they have inherited their means of living without need for employment then it is indeed fair enough. And if they are successfully investing that inheritance to maintain their need for no employment then again, fair play to them.
I think many would envy such a position to be in.
But for most out there, employment gives life a sense of purpose and challenge, and a means to educate yourself with skills which you can deploy in a wide range of things to diversify what you do on a daily/yearly basis.
But at the end of the day its each person's choice what they do with their life, if they can sustain their living standards and not rely on the taxpayer for their income.
If they have inherited their means of living without need for employment then it is indeed fair enough. And if they are successfully investing that inheritance to maintain their need for no employment then again, fair play to them.
I think many would envy such a position to be in.
But for most out there, employment gives life a sense of purpose and challenge, and a means to educate yourself with skills which you can deploy in a wide range of things to diversify what you do on a daily/yearly basis.
But at the end of the day its each person's choice what they do with their life, if they can sustain their living standards and not rely on the taxpayer for their income.
GroundZero said:
I think most people wouldn't have issues with a person who was not employed in the UK economy, as long as they were not living on taxpayer's money for income.
If they have inherited their means of living without need for employment then it is indeed fair enough. And if they are successfully investing that inheritance to maintain their need for no employment then again, fair play to them.
I think many would envy such a position to be in.
But for most out there, employment gives life a sense of purpose and challenge, and a means to educate yourself with skills which you can deploy in a wide range of things to diversify what you do on a daily/yearly basis.
But at the end of the day its each person's choice what they do with their life, if they can sustain their living standards and not rely on the taxpayer for their income.
The problem is that he isn't being productive in any sense. Not producing anything and not contributing income taxes. I'm sure he will expect hospital treatment, a pension, money if his dad's money runs out etc.If they have inherited their means of living without need for employment then it is indeed fair enough. And if they are successfully investing that inheritance to maintain their need for no employment then again, fair play to them.
I think many would envy such a position to be in.
But for most out there, employment gives life a sense of purpose and challenge, and a means to educate yourself with skills which you can deploy in a wide range of things to diversify what you do on a daily/yearly basis.
But at the end of the day its each person's choice what they do with their life, if they can sustain their living standards and not rely on the taxpayer for their income.
I say that as someone who has retired early. I'm well aware that if I continued to work I would be contributing far more to society than I do now.
Ive got a neighbour at my mums old house like this. He has an old VW beetle that is covered in rust, that he only drives to the end of the road and back once in a blue moon.
He doesnt work (Hes at retirement age now, but has never worked the 11 years ive known him) and owns his house and the house opposite. The house opposite is empty and used as junk storage. He inherited both from his parents, who were business people.
Ive never been inside his house (Blackout blinds) and his garden is full of junk. I think is house is probably full of crap as well. Before she died my mum would moan about the state of his garden. 3 years ago his fence blew down in the wind (All posts rotted bar the join to the wall, and the join the other end to the concrete post the railway company manage )
His response? Prop it back up again, and just balance it up. It lasted a few days...
I put up a concrete fence our side of his fence, he didnt offer to help or pay.
When mum died I had some work done on the chimney stack (Shared) and the shared firewall. He didnt offer to help or pay.
Hes always pottering around in work overalls but never seems to accomplish anything.
Nice guy, just your stereotypical lazy boomer/ hoarder type.
He doesnt work (Hes at retirement age now, but has never worked the 11 years ive known him) and owns his house and the house opposite. The house opposite is empty and used as junk storage. He inherited both from his parents, who were business people.
Ive never been inside his house (Blackout blinds) and his garden is full of junk. I think is house is probably full of crap as well. Before she died my mum would moan about the state of his garden. 3 years ago his fence blew down in the wind (All posts rotted bar the join to the wall, and the join the other end to the concrete post the railway company manage )
His response? Prop it back up again, and just balance it up. It lasted a few days...
I put up a concrete fence our side of his fence, he didnt offer to help or pay.
When mum died I had some work done on the chimney stack (Shared) and the shared firewall. He didnt offer to help or pay.
Hes always pottering around in work overalls but never seems to accomplish anything.
Nice guy, just your stereotypical lazy boomer/ hoarder type.
98elise said:
The problem is that he isn't being productive in any sense. Not producing anything and not contributing income taxes. I'm sure he will expect hospital treatment, a pension, money if his dad's money runs out etc.
I say that as someone who has retired early. I'm well aware that if I continued to work I would be contributing far more to society than I do now.
What makes you think he's not paying any income tax or NI contributions? I say that as someone who has retired early. I'm well aware that if I continued to work I would be contributing far more to society than I do now.
Cold said:
98elise said:
The problem is that he isn't being productive in any sense. Not producing anything and not contributing income taxes. I'm sure he will expect hospital treatment, a pension, money if his dad's money runs out etc.
I say that as someone who has retired early. I'm well aware that if I continued to work I would be contributing far more to society than I do now.
What makes you think he's not paying any income tax or NI contributions? I say that as someone who has retired early. I'm well aware that if I continued to work I would be contributing far more to society than I do now.
Deep Thought said:
Man chooses not to join the treadmill but lives a nice, quiet existence and not bothering anyone then good luck to him.
Oh dear, what a flabby platitude,I think the opting out of society so early in life, contributing exactly nothing while counting the days
waiting for parents to die so as to inherit property and savings is a worthless lifestyle no one
with any self respect should aspire to.
98elise said:
Cold said:
98elise said:
The problem is that he isn't being productive in any sense. Not producing anything and not contributing income taxes. I'm sure he will expect hospital treatment, a pension, money if his dad's money runs out etc.
I say that as someone who has retired early. I'm well aware that if I continued to work I would be contributing far more to society than I do now.
What makes you think he's not paying any income tax or NI contributions? I say that as someone who has retired early. I'm well aware that if I continued to work I would be contributing far more to society than I do now.
It's unlikely he will ever need any financial benefits from the State so it sounds like he will be one of the few net contributors to the tax pot.
valiant said:
Man chooses not to join the treadmill but lives a nice, quiet existence and not bothering anyone then good luck to him.
Perhaps it’s the fact that the jobless guy doesn’t obviously do anything with his time that the op finds vexing not that he doesn’t “join the treadmill” though? Sure some of us get some feeling of identity from our jobs or a sense of purpose or wellbeing etc but jobs for many are just something they don’t particularly like and do for money to live. It’s just a transaction you give your time and labour or skill and someone else makes money and pays you for it.
What happens when we retire? Do we no longer have identity or a purpose?
I bet this bloke isn’t sitting there wishing he had a job like the op or the other neighbours.
Personally if I didn’t need to work I’d still work part time or do some volunteering or hobby/sports and travel etc but I completely get that someone else just wants to chill out all the time with some dogs or whatever.
Edited by anonymous-user on Saturday 20th August 13:22
Think some people get miffed (and maybe just a little bit jealous) when someone chooses not to be part of the rat race. We have lots of early-retirees and wannabe-early-retirees on here- I don't hear many proclaiming that they want to work for as long as possible, though the odd person says that.
Think how many of the upper echelons of society (in wealth terms) steal/inherit a living through wealth, investments and businesses handed down. There's also surprisingly little criticism of this, either.
Think how many of the upper echelons of society (in wealth terms) steal/inherit a living through wealth, investments and businesses handed down. There's also surprisingly little criticism of this, either.
Allegro_Snapon said:
Inherited the house off the father (not sure when / where the mother went as only known him 20 years)...I once asked my neighbour "No offense mate, but you Dad did loads of stuff, why don't you do something like that.......".... the answer was "Bitcoin".!!!!!
- Only* 20 years and you've not gotten to know one another, but you can advise him that you think he ought to live his life differently?
Being an office monkey my entire professional life, I'd be minded to stop by and tell him not to get into any office-based job given some of the people and politics that - based on my experiences anyway - can (but not always) come about.
By contrast he's at home, being his own boss and doing his own thing, earning some good money with cryptocurrency as well as a passion for animals.
Sheets Tabuer said:
If I could give up work tomorrow I'd do it in a heartbeat, I actually took a few years out n my 30s and I was amazed how quickly I was able to fill my days, so much so I wondered how I ever found time for work.
I had pretty much 2 years off during the pandemic, I did some constructive things like retraining incase I got made redundant and loads of hobbies and sports etc but I never got bored or felt I lacked self respect or purpose once. Working again is fun as I love my job plus I’m still involved in the new field I retrained for but I definitely look back fondly on all that time off I had.
It did make me realise I’m not ready to retire though as I think knowing I still had a job whilst I was off, definitely helped my wellbeing.
Pre covid I always felt I could retire and fill my time happily doing my hobbies but now I think I’ll try and have some kind of part time work I enjoy, especially if it’s with younger people etc just for variety.
My job hours are pretty much part time anyway and give me loads of travel which I love so I’ll keep doing it until I have to quit and then see how I’m doing.
I’m not sure whether it’s about a sense of purpose or not but I do like the feeling of knowing I’ve got a job and loads of time off rather than just doing no job and hobbies etc completely if that makes sense.
98elise said:
Cold said:
98elise said:
The problem is that he isn't being productive in any sense. Not producing anything and not contributing income taxes. I'm sure he will expect hospital treatment, a pension, money if his dad's money runs out etc.
I say that as someone who has retired early. I'm well aware that if I continued to work I would be contributing far more to society than I do now.
What makes you think he's not paying any income tax or NI contributions? I say that as someone who has retired early. I'm well aware that if I continued to work I would be contributing far more to society than I do now.
Punctilio said:
Deep Thought said:
Man chooses not to join the treadmill but lives a nice, quiet existence and not bothering anyone then good luck to him.
Oh dear, what a flabby platitude,I think the opting out of society so early in life, contributing exactly nothing while counting the days
waiting for parents to die so as to inherit property and savings is a worthless lifestyle no one
with any self respect should aspire to.
Might not suit you or be something many of us would want to do for long, but if thats what he wants to do, let him crack on.
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