Horrendous story from primary school
Horrendous story from primary school
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ScotHill

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3,925 posts

133 months

Wednesday 7th September 2022
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Must have been around 1984, the story in an assembly tried to explain why some people have dark skin and some have light skin.

Originally everyone in the world had dark brown skin, but word got around that there was a special spring that if you bathed in it it turned your skin a beautiful light shade; dark skinned people dived in and came out light skinned. It was so popular that people travelled from around the world to lighten their skin, but soon the spring ran dry and the last people to reach it could only place their palms and soles of their feet into it. So that's why there are still dark skinned people and why they have light coloured palms, apparently.

Obviously, all of the kids gathered around the only dark skinned kid in the school at playtime, looking at his palms and taunting him that his ancestors were too slow to get to the whitening spring before it ran out.

Has anyone ever come across this story before or know where it originates? I can't find any trace of anything similar on the web, and I would hate to think the lovely headteacher had made it up herself to try to lubricate interracial friendships.

Zetec-S

6,682 posts

117 months

Wednesday 7th September 2022
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eek

ChocolateFrog

34,954 posts

197 months

Wednesday 7th September 2022
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Go to any Sunday school and you'll hear similar mumbo jumbo to this day.

Never heard that particular story though.

tafkattn

166 posts

45 months

Wednesday 7th September 2022
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Wow, that is just wow. I think (I could be way off base), it was well intentioned but poorly executed. Imagine if that happened today!

Kids are smarter than (many) adults give them credit for. The truth is usually much more easily explained (i.e. as people migrated to colder climates their bodies adapted to the reduced UV levels).

Spare tyre

12,158 posts

154 months

Wednesday 7th September 2022
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My niece who was about 8 at the time had the local vicar coming into their school , they were asked to think of questions.

I asked her to ask:
If dogs believe in god
Why, if the big guy can work miracles, does they church roof always need replacing

She managed to first one, but not the second

markh1973

2,825 posts

192 months

Wednesday 7th September 2022
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ChocolateFrog said:
Go to any Sunday school and you'll hear similar mumbo jumbo to this day.

Never heard that particular story though.
Not in any Sunday school I went to in the 70s/80s you wouldn't

Basstronic

11 posts

99 months

Wednesday 7th September 2022
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I don’t post much but yes that exact story!, early 80s.

TwigtheWonderkid

48,193 posts

174 months

Wednesday 7th September 2022
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Spare tyre said:
My niece who was about 8 at the time had the local vicar coming into their school , they were asked to think of questions.

I asked her to ask:
If dogs believe in god
Why, if the big guy can work miracles, does they church roof always need replacing

She managed to first one, but not the second
Why does the church steeple need a lightning conductor?

ChocolateFrog

34,954 posts

197 months

Wednesday 7th September 2022
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markh1973 said:
ChocolateFrog said:
Go to any Sunday school and you'll hear similar mumbo jumbo to this day.

Never heard that particular story though.
Not in any Sunday school I went to in the 70s/80s you wouldn't
Either we went to very different Sunday schools or our threshold for utter bullst is diametrically opposed.

ScotHill

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3,925 posts

133 months

Wednesday 7th September 2022
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Basstronic said:
I don’t post much but yes that exact story!, early 80s.
You weren't in Worcestershire were you?

TGCOTF-dewey

7,419 posts

79 months

Wednesday 7th September 2022
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TwigtheWonderkid said:
Spare tyre said:
My niece who was about 8 at the time had the local vicar coming into their school , they were asked to think of questions.

I asked her to ask:
If dogs believe in god
Why, if the big guy can work miracles, does they church roof always need replacing

She managed to first one, but not the second
Why does the church steeple need a lightning conductor?
To receive God's electrical blessing!

Basstronic

11 posts

99 months

Wednesday 7th September 2022
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ScotHill said:
You weren't in Worcestershire were you?
No Southampton

Alex_225

7,431 posts

225 months

Wednesday 7th September 2022
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Jeez, sounds like the sort of made up nonsense the old bat that ran my primary school would have said. She was all sorts of old school and a super Catholic too (cape and everything haha).

She had a black cat called, 'Niggy' which I'm pretty sure was not it's original name. Also remember the PE teacher calling the young Indian lad, 'Abbo'! This was at the end of the 80s.


CloudStuff

4,150 posts

128 months

Wednesday 7th September 2022
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What the fk?

straight dad

510 posts

181 months

Wednesday 7th September 2022
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ScotHill said:
Must have been around 1984, the story in an assembly tried to explain why some people have dark skin and some have light skin.

Originally everyone in the world had dark brown skin, but word got around that there was a special spring that if you bathed in it it turned your skin a beautiful light shade; dark skinned people dived in and came out light skinned. It was so popular that people travelled from around the world to lighten their skin, but soon the spring ran dry and the last people to reach it could only place their palms and soles of their feet into it. So that's why there are still dark skinned people and why they have light coloured palms, apparently.

Obviously, all of the kids gathered around the only dark skinned kid in the school at playtime, looking at his palms and taunting him that his ancestors were too slow to get to the whitening spring before it ran out.

Has anyone ever come across this story before or know where it originates? I can't find any trace of anything similar on the web, and I would hate to think the lovely headteacher had made it up herself to try to lubricate interracial friendships.
I was told the same story by a teacher in primary school (Peterborough) around 1969, I still can't find where the positive can be found in the story. Bizarrely I was only thinking about it over the last couple of days and how it would be received today, I would like to think I haven't been negatively influenced by the story over the years.

CloudStuff

4,150 posts

128 months

Wednesday 7th September 2022
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We had mum jokes, with the ultimate retort being “Yeah, yeah, your mum on toast”.

But that’s it.

Mallard126

3,487 posts

181 months

Wednesday 7th September 2022
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It rings a bit of a bell from my early school days (early-mid 80s). I think the moral was meant to be "We're all the same inside, it's just that some people have different colour skin."

It's an horrendous way of making that point though!

anonymous-user

78 months

Wednesday 7th September 2022
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That's pretty shocking to be honest but not unusual for that time period.
I heard one kid getting bullied for having pink palms and soles and the ring leader asked him if it was because he had to get down on his hands and feet to be spray painted.
I had a brain tumour at the time and my skin became quite pigmented and kids i went to primary school and then secondary school with and we had known each other for years, resorted to calling me the P word and the vile racist abuse i used to get would make your stomach churn.

Funny but once the tumour was removed and my skin returned to it's natural shade, they all wanted to be friends again.
let me think....no...fk off you racist piece of st!

Roofless Toothless

7,200 posts

156 months

Wednesday 7th September 2022
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I used to work with a Nigerian guy on a blood service team in the City of London. Lovely bloke, called Titus. One day I was backing our truck into a very dimly lit goods bay under some offices, and he was behind me helping me in. As much as I peered into the mirror I could see neither him nor where I was supposed to stop reversing. Suddenly a white hand flashed up and just in time I stopped.

I said to him afterwards that it was a bloody good job the palms of his hands are lighter than the rest of him. He told me that the phenomenon was down to generations of his ancestors using them to rub their sun tan cream on.

Faust66

2,374 posts

189 months

Wednesday 7th September 2022
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IIRC correctly there was only one black kid at my primary school (Stephen Clarke... think his family were from Mauritius). This was back in the late 1970s/early 1980s in rural Somerset.

I can remember the teachers referring to him as a 'chocolate pudding' and 'sambo'. Gave me a lifelong sense of 'why do people have to be dicks to someone who is different to them?' anger.


I also remember him for the fantastic variety of curses his dad came out with to an impressionable child (my parents were and are fairly strict Roman Catholics so there was no drinking, swearing or fun in our family).

"Damn, st and blast it" was a particularly good one. So much so that I use it to this day, 40 odd years later! hehe

As this is PH, his dad had a Japanese car which was a thing of wonder to us small boys: Datsun 120y with weird conical hubcaps.