Cogito ergo sum
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ChevronB19

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187 months

Tuesday 15th November 2022
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Sorry - can’t find an appropriate subforum, so this is my best guess.

I only have the loosest grasp of Latin, but a close friend would like a version of this in his gravestone when he goes.

So cogito ergo sum = I think, therefore I am (and I know there are multiple minor variations on this, I guess that’s Latin for you).

What he would like is ‘I thought, therefore I was’.

Is it possible to put cogito ergo sum into the past tense?

Thanks for any advice.

sunbeam alpine

7,229 posts

212 months

Tuesday 15th November 2022
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Cogitavi ergo eram?

Alorotom

12,706 posts

211 months

Tuesday 15th November 2022
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sunbeam alpine said:
Cogitavi ergo eram?
its abstract and simplified, not sure the OP will get much closer than that though.

Roofless Toothless

7,197 posts

156 months

Tuesday 15th November 2022
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Romanes eunt domus?

ChevronB19

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Tuesday 15th November 2022
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Roofless Toothless said:
Romanes eunt domus?
Lol, nice try, I do know *some* latin!

alfaspecial

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164 months

Tuesday 15th November 2022
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ChevronB19 said:
Roofless Toothless said:
Romanes eunt domus?
Lol, nice try, I do know *some* latin!
Correct quote





Or, if he is/was a ladies man

vidi, vici, veni ( I saw, I conquered, I came!)

Roofless Toothless

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Tuesday 15th November 2022
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alfaspecial

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Tuesday 15th November 2022
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Roofless Toothless said:
Roofless Toothless, you learn something new, everyday

I must sound like centurion John Cleese
"People called Romanes, they go the house"


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romani_ite_domum



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Case of domus
The exchange on the case of domus concludes:

Centurion: ?'Domus'? Nominative? 'Go home', this is motion towards, isn't it, boy?
Brian: The dative, sir?
[Centurion draws his sword and holds it to Brian's throat]
Brian: Ahh! No, not the dative, not the dative, sir. No, the, accusative, accusative, 'ad domum', sir!
Centurion: Except that 'domus' takes the ...?
Brian: The locative, sir!
Centurion: Thus it is ...?!
Brian: ?'Domum'.

The (allative) case construction used in the final formulation is not locative but accusative of motion towards. The locative of domus in literary classical Latin is domi.[2] The locative case (without the preposition in) was only used for the names of cities, small islands and a few other isolated words. Correspondingly for these places and the word domus, the accusative was used without a preposition (in or ad) to indicate a motion towards.






Edited by alfaspecial on Tuesday 15th November 16:39

sospan

2,755 posts

246 months

Tuesday 15th November 2022
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Descartes was French. Why not put it in French?
Can’t remember French for therefore so google translate used.
I think, therefore I am ......
Je pense donc je suis

sunbeam alpine

7,229 posts

212 months

Tuesday 15th November 2022
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sospan said:
Descartes was French. Why not put it in French?
Can’t remember French for therefore so google translate used.
I think, therefore I am ......
Je pense donc je suis
He wants it in the past tense, so -

J'ai pensé, donc j'etais

or Je pensais, donc j'etais

would maybe more appropriate?

TwigtheWonderkid

48,193 posts

174 months

Tuesday 15th November 2022
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There was a law student called Rex
Who had very small organs of sex
When charged with exposure
He replied with composure
De minimis non curat lex

nickfrog

24,514 posts

241 months

Tuesday 15th November 2022
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sunbeam alpine said:
He wants it in the past tense, so -

J'ai pensé, donc j'etais

or Je pensais, donc j'etais

would maybe more appropriate?
The imperfect is fine although a little passé simple will add a touch of grandeur to the proceedings and will save on the amount of engraving laugh

Je pensai donc je fus.

ChevronB19

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8,527 posts

187 months

Wednesday 16th November 2022
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Love the replies, and taking it all on board! Despite Descartes, he would prefer the Latin.

LordGrover

34,092 posts

236 months

Wednesday 16th November 2022
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Twitter may have the answer... cogitavi ergo ego eram.