Meat eating/ cows farting/veganism

[Zed 44]

Simple question. Who's farts are more destructive - cow's farts or humans? I don't know how many cow's there are but there are circa 9 billion of us farting every day and soon to be 12 billion. And as far as I know our farts contain methane because I can remember lighting them as a kid.

[V 02]

Takes General Gassing to a whole new level this thread does

[Pieman68]

Zed 44 said:

Simple question. Who's farts are more destructive - cow's farts or humans? I don't know how many cow's there are but there are circa 9 billion of us farting every day and soon to be 12 billion. And as far as I know our farts contain methane because I can remember lighting them as a kid.

Surely the yoghurt-weavers who eat nothing but plankton and grass fart more anyway, thus exacerbating the issue further

I know when I've eaten a decent amount of cabbage and the like, it's like Le Corbussier et Papin dans Jean de Florette 2

[SpudLink]

Zed 44 said:

Simple question. Who's farts are more destructive - cow's farts or humans? I don't know how many cow's there are but there are circa 9 billion of us farting every day and soon to be 12 billion. And as far as I know our farts contain methane because I can remember lighting them as a kid.

Over the course of a person's lifetime, how many cows lived (and died) to provide beef. The collective methane expelled by all those cows has to be included in the calculation.

[BoRED S2upid]

And considering curry farts are the worst and most of the population is in India. It’s a fair point. India also don’t eat cows so double trouble.

[Nomme de Plum]

V 02 said:

Takes General Gassing to a whole new level this thread does

Like it

Vo2 max versus CH4

[mac96]

It's cow belches that are the problem, not farts!!
Silent but deadly... apparently.

[Glassman]

As much as I have loved steak, cows and their by-products account for 51% of all worldwide greenhouse gases; animal agriculture is responsible for around 90% of Amazon destruction; 70 billion farmed animals are reared annually worldwide and more than 6 million animals are killed for food every hour.

.*(according to Cowspiracy, the documentary.)

[mac96]

Glassman said:

As much as I have loved steak, cows and their by-products account for 51% of all worldwide greenhouse gases; animal agriculture is responsible for around 90% of Amazon destruction; 70 billion farmed animals are reared annually worldwide and more than 6 million animals are killed for food every hour.

.*(according to Cowspiracy, the documentary.)

Sounds an awful lot? I wonder whether that was % of methane emissions, not all greenhouse gasses?

This suggests 14% of total:

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2021/oct/2...

[Tom8]

Glassman said:

As much as I have loved steak, cows and their by-products account for 51% of all worldwide greenhouse gases; animal agriculture is responsible for around 90% of Amazon destruction; 70 billion farmed animals are reared annually worldwide and more than 6 million animals are killed for food every hour.

.*(according to Cowspiracy, the documentary.)

So when they are all extinct the planet will be saved? Hooray!

[Glassman]

Tom8 said:

So when they are all extinct the planet will be saved? Hooray!

They'll never become extinct. Like stupidity.

[Tom8]

Glassman said:

Tom8 said:

So when they are all extinct the planet will be saved? Hooray!

They'll never become extinct. Like stupidity.

Cattle and sheep would not survive as stand alone species in the wild having been farmed for thousands of years. Or are all the vegans going to look after them?

[mac96]

Tom8 said:

Glassman said:

Tom8 said:

So when they are all extinct the planet will be saved? Hooray!

They'll never become extinct. Like stupidity.

Cattle and sheep would not survive as stand alone species in the wild having been farmed for thousands of years. Or are all the vegans going to look after them?

Some sheep breeds might become feral perhaps- after all, feral populations of goats seem to survive.

[brownspeed]

Glassman said:

As much as I have loved steak, cows and their by-products account for 51% of all worldwide greenhouse gases; animal agriculture is responsible for around 90% of Amazon destruction; 70 billion farmed animals are reared annually worldwide and more than 6 million animals are killed for food every hour.

.*(according to Cowspiracy, the documentary.)

sounds like a load of bull to me

[520TORQUES]

Glassman said:

As much as I have loved steak, cows and their by-products account for 51% of all worldwide greenhouse gases; animal agriculture is responsible for around 90% of Amazon destruction; 70 billion farmed animals are reared annually worldwide and more than 6 million animals are killed for food every hour.

.*(according to Cowspiracy, the documentary.)

But it tastes so good.

[Roofless Toothless]

The volume of methane emitted as a result of the farming of ruminants world wide is approximately the same as that emitted from the paddy fields used to grow rice. For some reason, vegans tend not to dwell on this.

[230TE]

Glassman said:

As much as I have loved steak, cows and their by-products account for 51% of all worldwide greenhouse gases; animal agriculture is responsible for around 90% of Amazon destruction; 70 billion farmed animals are reared annually worldwide and more than 6 million animals are killed for food every hour.

.*(according to Cowspiracy, the documentary.)

Calling Cowspiracy a documentary is a bit misleading. It's a vegan polemic and not entirely to be trusted. Scientific consensus is 15% rather than 51%. Maybe they just got their digits mixed up.

On the OP's question, the issue here is methanogens, micro-organisms found in the intestines of a small number of species of which the most numerous are cattle and humans. AFAIK the methane-producing effects of global veganism are not included in the dramatic figures being bandied about for the GHG benefits of abolishing animal agriculture.

In the end the key question is "can we get all the nutrients we need from a plant-based diet?" The UN thinks not.

https://news.un.org/en/story/2023/04/1135972

[Tom8]

mac96 said:

Tom8 said:

Glassman said:

Tom8 said:

So when they are all extinct the planet will be saved? Hooray!

They'll never become extinct. Like stupidity.

Cattle and sheep would not survive as stand alone species in the wild having been farmed for thousands of years. Or are all the vegans going to look after them?

Some sheep breeds might become feral perhaps- after all, feral populations of goats seem to survive.

You have clearly never looked after sheep.

[DodgyGeezer]

Tom8 said:

mac96 said:

Tom8 said:

Glassman said:

Tom8 said:

So when they are all extinct the planet will be saved? Hooray!

They'll never become extinct. Like stupidity.

Cattle and sheep would not survive as stand alone species in the wild having been farmed for thousands of years. Or are all the vegans going to look after them?

Some sheep breeds might become feral perhaps- after all, feral populations of goats seem to survive.

You have clearly never looked after sheep.

I dunno - these ones manage just fine

[GilletteFan]

230TE said:

Calling Cowspiracy a documentary is a bit misleading. It's a vegan polemic and not entirely to be trusted. Scientific consensus is 15% rather than 51%. Maybe they just got their digits mixed up.

On the OP's question, the issue here is methanogens, micro-organisms found in the intestines of a small number of species of which the most numerous are cattle and humans. AFAIK the methane-producing effects of global veganism are not included in the dramatic figures being bandied about for the GHG benefits of abolishing animal agriculture.

In the end the key question is "can we get all the nutrients we need from a plant-based diet?" The UN thinks not.

https://news.un.org/en/story/2023/04/1135972

You seem quite knowledgeable on this topic.

I work in an office environment that has slowly, but surely, seen the proportion of men drop even though numbers of worker bees have come back up. What I noticed was the smell in the office has gotten bad with this change. It got me thinking about the types of foods we eat and the effects on how bearable the farts are as a result of diet. Do people that eat more vegetables and fruits have nastier farts? Also, what about those who eat nothing but sweet breads and are overweight? There should be a carbon tax introduced. Your's truly does not eat beef much by the way. Why would I when chickens taste to good here?!