After School Detention
After School Detention
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welshjon81

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729 posts

170 months

Thursday 19th October 2023
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Without going into detail - my 15 year old son has been given after an school detention for something that his mum and I feel is totally unjust.

The school already knew how we felt but still handed down the punishment. What would happen if I rang the school and told them point blank, that he isn't going to attend?


normalbloke

8,832 posts

248 months

Thursday 19th October 2023
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welshjon81 said:
Without going into detail - my 15 year old son has been given after an school detention for something that his mum and I feel is totally unjust.

The school already knew how we felt but still handed down the punishment. What would happen if I rang the school and told them point blank, that he isn't going to attend?
Pointless without the detail.

welshjon81

Original Poster:

729 posts

170 months

Thursday 19th October 2023
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normalbloke said:
welshjon81 said:
Without going into detail - my 15 year old son has been given after an school detention for something that his mum and I feel is totally unjust.

The school already knew how we felt but still handed down the punishment. What would happen if I rang the school and told them point blank, that he isn't going to attend?
Pointless without the detail.
Why? I'm asking what are the repercussions (if any), if as a parent, I tell him not to attend and the school to FO.

Jonmx

2,919 posts

242 months

Thursday 19th October 2023
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Let your son know that while you support him, sometimes in life, things happen that are unjust and you have to deal with the consequences. A good life lesson that sometimes st happens that we don't deserve.

48k

17,344 posts

177 months

Thursday 19th October 2023
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welshjon81 said:
his mum and I feel is totally unjust.
Have you heard all sides of the story or just his?

Vipers

33,496 posts

257 months

Thursday 19th October 2023
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My thoughts are its not a hanging offence, and they cant forcably detain your son, so tell him just to come home, and dont attend detention.

Obviously something has pissed you off, and guessing righly so.

But its worth discussing it face to face with the school as well, there are always two sides to a story.


welshjon81

Original Poster:

729 posts

170 months

Thursday 19th October 2023
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48k said:
welshjon81 said:
his mum and I feel is totally unjust.
Have you heard all sides of the story or just his?
All sides. I am aware some kids are a little more unruly (as I definitely was) but I know his personality and I know he wouldn't lie to me or embellish on the facts.

Evanivitch

26,301 posts

151 months

Thursday 19th October 2023
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Vipers said:
My thoughts are its not a hanging offence, and they cant forcably detain your son, so tell him just to come home, and dont attend detention.

Obviously something has pissed you off, and guessing righly so.

But its worth discussing it face to face with the school as well, there are always two sides to a story.
They can't forcibly detain him, equally they're not forced to educate him. The local authority have that responsibility, and could place him in another school.

OP I suggest you open a dialogue with the school asking that the after school detention be put aside until it is resolved. Maybe a meeting before half term is possible?

BoRED S2upid

21,035 posts

269 months

Thursday 19th October 2023
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welshjon81 said:
normalbloke said:
welshjon81 said:
Without going into detail - my 15 year old son has been given after an school detention for something that his mum and I feel is totally unjust.

The school already knew how we felt but still handed down the punishment. What would happen if I rang the school and told them point blank, that he isn't going to attend?
Pointless without the detail.
Why? I'm asking what are the repercussions (if any), if as a parent, I tell him not to attend and the school to FO.
Expelled?

Suck it up like a man and attend. Or tell us the detail and we can be a fairer audience.

simon_harris

3,086 posts

63 months

Thursday 19th October 2023
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As said they cannot forcibly detain him, I woul dcall the school and tell them he won't be attending and tell him to come straight home at the end of the school day.

The liklihood is they will probably try and make him attend a lunchtime detention or something like that

Zarco

20,947 posts

238 months

Thursday 19th October 2023
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Jonmx said:
Let your son know that while you support him, sometimes in life, things happen that are unjust and you have to deal with the consequences. A good life lesson that sometimes st happens that we don't deserve.
Absolutely this.


Pebbles167

4,572 posts

181 months

Thursday 19th October 2023
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Jonmx said:
Let your son know that while you support him, sometimes in life, things happen that are unjust and you have to deal with the consequences. A good life lesson that sometimes st happens that we don't deserve.
Pretty much what I said to my 13 year old daughter for something similar. If it became a recurring thing, and she still felt it unfair, I'd bring it up with the school.

That said, the OP knows what has happened and we don't. If it's something that they feel they need to take a stand over, then contact the teacher at the earliest opportunity.

Evanivitch

26,301 posts

151 months

Thursday 19th October 2023
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simon_harris said:
As said they cannot forcibly detain him, I woul dcall the school and tell them he won't be attending and tell him to come straight home at the end of the school day.

The liklihood is they will probably try and make him attend a lunchtime detention or something like that
My old school the escalation from after school detention was an all day detention in isolation.

BoloH4wes

103 posts

119 months

Thursday 19th October 2023
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Bit of a pointless thread without detail but....

Sometimes life is unfair. Mummy and Daddy won't always be there to fight your corner, i'd say suck it up and don't put yourself in a position where you could be caught up in shenanigans that could land you a detention.

welshjon81

Original Poster:

729 posts

170 months

Thursday 19th October 2023
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Zarco said:
Jonmx said:
Let your son know that while you support him, sometimes in life, things happen that are unjust and you have to deal with the consequences. A good life lesson that sometimes st happens that we don't deserve.
Absolutely this.
He has been "taught" that lesson a few times but in this incident, I believe he needs to learn to stand up for what he believes is right. And to be taught that, he also needs to see it coming from his parents.

Evanivitch

26,301 posts

151 months

Thursday 19th October 2023
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welshjon81 said:
He has been "taught" that lesson a few times but in this incident, I believe he needs to learn to stand up for what he believes is right. And to be taught that, he also needs to see it coming from his parents.
Just make sure he does that knowing full well that there are consequences, and that he might not like them.

u-boat

804 posts

43 months

Thursday 19th October 2023
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welshjon81 said:
Why? I'm asking what are the repercussions (if any), if as a parent, I tell him not to attend and the school to FO.
I’m assuming this is a state school?

Shouldn’t you support the school and teachers? No wonder schools are in such a mess.

TikTak

3,032 posts

48 months

Thursday 19th October 2023
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The repercussions are whatever their standard ones are for not attending a detention for that school and whilst you support him, 30 mins of his life and the 'lesson' some people mention are potentially the lesser of what could happen.

For example, after school detention was 1 step from going on report and losing some daily freedoms when I was at school.

Also, ultimately it's not your decision, you agreed to allow them to run their environment, in a manner they see fit without others intervening. I went to school with enough scummy types whose parents would likely say giving someone a bloodly nose for no particular reason was not grounds for a detention. School ground, school rules.

Smint

3,532 posts

64 months

Thursday 19th October 2023
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Master's detention at my school was held on a Saturday morning, every time i ended up travelling to school for that detention (often) i thoroughly deserved it even though it didn't always feel so at the time, finally learned to keep my big trap shut and not go beyond a certain point.
Prefect's detention was after school but i never received one of those.

Not attending will surely result in escalation, let alone the 'troublemaker' note being applied to the record, which could have repercussions at some point one might prefer to avoid.

Pebbles167

4,572 posts

181 months

Thursday 19th October 2023
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u-boat said:
I’m assuming this is a state school?

Shouldn’t you support the school and teachers? No wonder schools are in such a mess.
Rubbish.

The school and teachers are perfectly capable of making mistakes and mishandling a situation. And should be called out when they do.

Blindly accepting what they say and automatically believing them over the child is outdated and lousy parenting.