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its that time of year again when tips come up, do you tip when you go out, do you get tips in your ob, surely the minimum wage negatets the need for this, i get it in countries where waiters etc live on tips, but not here surely, ive never had a tip in my life, why should i tip them.
I will add, if ive had an experiance to remember then i will tip, but it seems everywhere you go now they add it to your bill and if you ask for it to be removed you feel like a cheapskate, if i go to a place to eat i get a bill totaling what i see on the menu and pay it, should i be expected to pay more just because, do you tip at tesco?
I will add, if ive had an experiance to remember then i will tip, but it seems everywhere you go now they add it to your bill and if you ask for it to be removed you feel like a cheapskate, if i go to a place to eat i get a bill totaling what i see on the menu and pay it, should i be expected to pay more just because, do you tip at tesco?
I'm all for giving a gift at Xmas. Women who cuts my hair, Bin Men, Postie, Bar Staff etc.
Tipping culture though should be weeded out in the UK, it's a ghastly American idea so people in the Service Industry have to fawn over their customers or starve. Why not make it simple, we pay everyone a competitive salary based on skills and experience and say "please" and "thank you" whatever side of the staff / customer fence we sit, and everyone gets on.
Tipping culture though should be weeded out in the UK, it's a ghastly American idea so people in the Service Industry have to fawn over their customers or starve. Why not make it simple, we pay everyone a competitive salary based on skills and experience and say "please" and "thank you" whatever side of the staff / customer fence we sit, and everyone gets on.
I agree, tipping is now just confusing at best, it's just weird and is increasingly a deceptive and underhand way to hide the real cost of things or services ... i'd much rather wages / prices / whatever were adjusted accordingly and the whole world completely forgot about tipping as a thing.
At its root it makes sense in the service industry, somebody gives excellent above and beyond service, they are rewarded with an additional tip purely to account for their additional efforts. Now it is beginning to saturate absolutely everything, things where better service isn't even possible and so a tip really could never make sense,it is all very cynical indeed. Problem is, it works, people go along with it for any multitude of reasons and so it will continue.
At its root it makes sense in the service industry, somebody gives excellent above and beyond service, they are rewarded with an additional tip purely to account for their additional efforts. Now it is beginning to saturate absolutely everything, things where better service isn't even possible and so a tip really could never make sense,it is all very cynical indeed. Problem is, it works, people go along with it for any multitude of reasons and so it will continue.
richhead said:
its that time of year again when tips come up, do you tip when you go out, do you get tips in your ob, surely the minimum wage negatets the need for this,
You think everyone in front line should be on min wage?I tip for good service in a restaurant. I don't in Tesco. The bin lorry get a crate of beers and boxes of biscuits. The window cleaner got similar. etc
Unfortunately it is now endemic in many areas where you didn't previously have an expectation of (e.g. buying drinks at the bar in the pub) and it appears as a standard menu item on the card reader/payment device. The reality is that it is big companies and business owners just trying to squeeze more juice out of customers, and you have to wonder how much actually gets to the staff. So, where possible, I either reject the tip option on the card reader, or give the server a cash tip (so it hopefully goes directly into their pockets and not their employers!).
Blue One said:
Unfortunately it is now endemic in many areas where you didn't previously have an expectation of (e.g. buying drinks at the bar in the pub) and it appears as a standard menu item on the card reader/payment device. The reality is that it is big companies and business owners just trying to squeeze more juice out of customers, and you have to wonder how much actually gets to the staff. So, where possible, I either reject the tip option on the card reader, or give the server a cash tip (so it hopefully goes directly into their pockets and not their employers!).
I do exactly the same and ask to make sure it goes directly to them and not split.richhead said:
its that time of year again when tips come up, do you tip when you go out, do you get tips in your ob, surely the minimum wage negatets the need for this, i get it in countries where waiters etc live on tips, but not here surely, ive never had a tip in my life, why should i tip them.
I will add, if ive had an experiance to remember then i will tip, but it seems everywhere you go now they add it to your bill and if you ask for it to be removed you feel like a cheapskate, if i go to a place to eat i get a bill totaling what i see on the menu and pay it, should i be expected to pay more just because, do you tip at tesco?
I think we tip the standard things - food delivery drivers get a tip (annoying when one place charges a tenner to deliver then we tip a fiver for the driver on top), hairdresser gets a tip etc all year round and pubs/restaurants etc will get a tip (we use a pub for lunch reasonably frequently and the staff know us so we tend to get good service and leave a fair tip).... I will add, if ive had an experiance to remember then i will tip, but it seems everywhere you go now they add it to your bill and if you ask for it to be removed you feel like a cheapskate, if i go to a place to eat i get a bill totaling what i see on the menu and pay it, should i be expected to pay more just because, do you tip at tesco?
At Christmas the postie will get a tenner and the milkman a tenner, the bin men twenty as there are three of them.
So I think we are about the normal really for the UK in terms of tipping.
milfordkong said:
I agree, tipping is now just confusing at best, it's just weird and is increasingly a deceptive and underhand way to hide the real cost of things or services ... i'd much rather wages / prices / whatever were adjusted accordingly and the whole world completely forgot about tipping as a thing.
I don't even think its that, the price on the menu should cover the food and service. The gratuity, service charge, tip whatever they want to call it etc is just a way to get more money out of you. At our office meal last week the company picked up the food and drink bill, but we had to pay any tip, which is fair enough. No one had any cash, except me and one other person, so we ended up putting £20 each in. Service was excellent, so couldn't really complain, just a bit annoying to be met with a sea of blank faces when asking for a few quid each for the tip.
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