Well written scam

[Skyedriver]

Not your usual chavvy, broken english.

Good morning.

Thanks for the response, I would have loved to call you directly but due to the nature of my work, I work with the British Army Corps, we do not have access to phones at the moment which is why I'm contacting you back here. I'm very interested in your vehicle's Advert posted on Pistonheads.

I am buying this for my first son, who just graduated on top of his class at Aviation University. He told me in the past that he wanted this type of vehicle, and that's why I'm making this vehicle to be a surprise package gift for him now. Does it have any history I should be aware of, and why are you selling it if you don't mind my asking??.
I don't mind adding an extra £200.00 for you just to take down the posting on Pistonheads and sell it for me.. I'm already in talks with a freighter who will handle the inspection, pickup and delivery. I would really appreciate it if you could email more info.

I am a very busy woman (I'm Operating Officer) presently on-board but I have my Lloyds bank account linked up with my PayPal so I will be paying you through my PayPal Account to your nominated bank account, so please do get back to me with your Sort Code Number, Account Number and Account Name or better still if you have a PayPal account send it to me so that I can proceed with the payment and contact the courier agent who will come to pick up the vehicle and deliver it to my son.

Please, I would like to know the vehicle inspection's day, time and the location to inspect it so that I can arrange the inspection with the courier agent.

Also, what is the best price for the vehicle??.

Awaiting your reply.

Thank you.

Kind Regards.

[cwis]

Might have been written with AI assistance. New approach perhaps?

[boyse7en]

Might not be broken english, but it reads very oddly.

[Richard-390a0]

Have you made the site admins aware etc? I see there was a thread in general gassing / website feedback on scammers relying to adverts on here.

[DaveTheRave87]

cwis said:

Might have been written with AI assistance. New approach perhaps?

It does look quite ChatGPT-ish.

[Hustle_]

TBH when these kinds of scams started many years ago I did not imagine that it'd take until 2024 before we saw one which was written using a level of English spelling and grammar.

I have been getting very convincing scam email from Facebook recently which appears to have come from the correct Facebook email address, simply providing an account recovery code. It has a button to reset password and a button which it invites you to click if you didn't request the password change.

[vikingaero]

It's written better but still red flags:

(1) Offering some money to sell to them
(2) Inspection date - that's very American
(3) PayPal - Never fking PayPal. Cash or Bank Transfer only.

[cwis]

Hustle_ said:

TBH when these kinds of scams started many years ago I did not imagine that it'd take until 2024 before we saw one which was written using a level of English spelling and grammar.

I have been getting very convincing scam email from Facebook recently which appears to have come from the correct Facebook email address, simply providing an account recovery code. It has a button to reset password and a button which it invites you to click if you didn't request the password change.

I think the badly writen bit was part of the scam. If you're stupid/confused/distracted enough not to notice the poor composition, you're much more likely to actually hand some cash over...

[Eric Mc]

"I work with the British Army Corps"
"Aviation University"???

That alone flags it up as scammers.

Using weird and unusual phrases, no matter how good the English is, is always a giveaway.

[Mr Happy]

"Aviation University" ??

There's loads of red flags all over that message to be fair, the composition, the flow of it, the obvious errors etc...

The biggest red flag is that it is way too detailed. Nobody would send an email like that, even if it was their very first day on the internet.

[Hustle_]

TBH grounds to immediately delete;

• any deal where the approaching party is conveniently offshore or out of the country
• any deal where some future intermediary is supposed to facilitate
• any situation where the approaching party is offering preferential terms for expedience i.e. asking price no questions asked, or sweetener

Those three big red flags are still there

[krisdelta]

Red flags to spare in that, yes moderate levels of English but indeed seems a bit GPT-like and obviously a scam. Aviation Uni / Corps / Courier - it's a no from me.

[siovey]

PayPal- Scam

I got scammed out of £1300 recently and PayPal couldn't be any less interested. In fact, they were more helpful to the 'buyer'. I try and avoid buying or selling anything via them nowadays if possible!

[phil-sti]

British Army Corps? Operating officer on board? plus anyone who wants to pay more than the advert is an instant red flag.

[FiF]

phil-sti said:

British Army Corps? Operating officer on board? plus anyone who wants to pay more than the advert is an instant red flag.

That plus Aviation university.

Barge pole, do not touch with a.

[98elise]

Eric Mc said:

"I work with the British Army Corps"
"Aviation University"???

That alone flags it up as scammers.

Using weird and unusual phrases, no matter how good the English is, is always a giveaway.

Same things stood out to me.

And operating officer on board!

[vikingaero]

98elise said:

Eric Mc said:

"I work with the British Army Corps"
"Aviation University"???

That alone flags it up as scammers.

Using weird and unusual phrases, no matter how good the English is, is always a giveaway.

Same things stood out to me.

And operating officer on board!

All above board. She went to the same school as Nick Adderley:

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/oct/16/no...

[JQ]

cwis said:

Hustle_ said:

TBH when these kinds of scams started many years ago I did not imagine that it'd take until 2024 before we saw one which was written using a level of English spelling and grammar.

I have been getting very convincing scam email from Facebook recently which appears to have come from the correct Facebook email address, simply providing an account recovery code. It has a button to reset password and a button which it invites you to click if you didn't request the password change.

I think the badly written bit was part of the scam. If you're stupid/confused/distracted enough not to notice the poor composition, you're much more likely to actually hand some cash over...

That was always my thought too - if you're greedy enough to see past lots of red flags in a very poorly worded email then you're exactly the kind of "mark" they're after. Respond and they automatically know they've got a live one.

[Vasco]

Skyedriver said:

Not your usual chavvy, broken english.

Good morning.

Thanks for the response, I would have loved to call you directly but due to the nature of my work, I work with the British Army Corps, we do not have access to phones at the moment which is why I'm contacting you back here. I'm very interested in your vehicle's Advert posted on Pistonheads.

I am buying this for my first son, who just graduated on top of his class at Aviation University. He told me in the past that he wanted this type of vehicle, and that's why I'm making this vehicle to be a surprise package gift for him now. Does it have any history I should be aware of, and why are you selling it if you don't mind my asking??.
I don't mind adding an extra £200.00 for you just to take down the posting on Pistonheads and sell it for me.. I'm already in talks with a freighter who will handle the inspection, pickup and delivery. I would really appreciate it if you could email more info.

I am a very busy woman (I'm Operating Officer) presently on-board but I have my Lloyds bank account linked up with my PayPal so I will be paying you through my PayPal Account to your nominated bank account, so please do get back to me with your Sort Code Number, Account Number and Account Name or better still if you have a PayPal account send it to me so that I can proceed with the payment and contact the courier agent who will come to pick up the vehicle and deliver it to my son.

Please, I would like to know the vehicle inspection's day, time and the location to inspect it so that I can arrange the inspection with the courier agent.

Also, what is the best price for the vehicle??.

Awaiting your reply.

Thank you.

Kind Regards.

Agreed, not as usual - but still reads as 'odd' and to be avoided.

[MrBarry123]

Mr Happy said:

"Aviation University" ??

There's loads of red flags all over that message to be fair, the composition, the flow of it, the obvious errors etc...

The biggest red flag is that it is way too detailed. Nobody would send an email like that, even if it was their very first day on the internet.