AI and 'world domination'
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I don't doubt that AI is making huge inroads in some industries/exam cheating.
However, when I cannot even get Siri to dial a telephone number properly - ffs.
If this is the capability we are at, AI has sod all chance of dominating things for the foreseeable future.
There was an article on Bing (yesterday, I believe) that suggested in spite of the hype, less and less people are actually sing AI on a daily basis/in a meaningful way.
Granted this was for anyone other than between 18-25 years old. Yet that demarcation must mean most folk aren't that bothered/can see its use.
Mods, this isn't meant to be a 'technology thread' more a rant on what we are being sold as 'game-changing' and all pervasive and it cannot often do the most menial of things properly (in my experience).
A whinge about life in general then.
However, when I cannot even get Siri to dial a telephone number properly - ffs.
If this is the capability we are at, AI has sod all chance of dominating things for the foreseeable future.
There was an article on Bing (yesterday, I believe) that suggested in spite of the hype, less and less people are actually sing AI on a daily basis/in a meaningful way.
Granted this was for anyone other than between 18-25 years old. Yet that demarcation must mean most folk aren't that bothered/can see its use.
Mods, this isn't meant to be a 'technology thread' more a rant on what we are being sold as 'game-changing' and all pervasive and it cannot often do the most menial of things properly (in my experience).
A whinge about life in general then.
By the time it's properly rolling most people won't know they're using AI.
A much, much bigger danger than a mindless mashup of the last few decades of internet somehow developing a will and becoming malevolent, is humans offloading important functions and decisions on something that is... a mindless mashup of the last few decades of internet.
Since we're lazy and will burn anything in pursuit of convenience and profit some cataclysm will be caused by leaving AI in the driving seat.
A much, much bigger danger than a mindless mashup of the last few decades of internet somehow developing a will and becoming malevolent, is humans offloading important functions and decisions on something that is... a mindless mashup of the last few decades of internet.
Since we're lazy and will burn anything in pursuit of convenience and profit some cataclysm will be caused by leaving AI in the driving seat.
I can’t see AI dominating, but it can and will remove lots of effort from what are highly manual (tech) tasks now.
I view AI as an able assistant to getting stuff done, Co pilot for generic office stuff will lead to more specific tools for data analysis / material creation / standardising next steps and the like from sector specialists. I’m astonished at how poor the use of data is by Amazon / Apple, considering what they have access to.
I view AI as an able assistant to getting stuff done, Co pilot for generic office stuff will lead to more specific tools for data analysis / material creation / standardising next steps and the like from sector specialists. I’m astonished at how poor the use of data is by Amazon / Apple, considering what they have access to.
OP, I asked my local LLM to create a poem based on your rant. Why?, just because.
In silicon halls, where promises abound,
AI’s grand march, with hype unbound.
But whispers spread, of limitations keen,
Even Siri stumbles, a mundane scene.
The dream of dominance, a distant hum,
As daily use, for most, is yet to come.
Aged 18-25, the few who take the leap,
But others pass, with skepticism deep.
The noise of novelty, a fleeting thrill,
Fades fast, as functionality stands still.
Life’s mundane tasks, where AI should shine,
Instead, it stumbles, and we’re left in decline.
A rant on life, where tech is just a part,
A whinge about the hype that sets us apart.
For all its promise, AI’s not quite there,
Just another tool, with human care.
...see, it is useful ;-)
In silicon halls, where promises abound,
AI’s grand march, with hype unbound.
But whispers spread, of limitations keen,
Even Siri stumbles, a mundane scene.
The dream of dominance, a distant hum,
As daily use, for most, is yet to come.
Aged 18-25, the few who take the leap,
But others pass, with skepticism deep.
The noise of novelty, a fleeting thrill,
Fades fast, as functionality stands still.
Life’s mundane tasks, where AI should shine,
Instead, it stumbles, and we’re left in decline.
A rant on life, where tech is just a part,
A whinge about the hype that sets us apart.
For all its promise, AI’s not quite there,
Just another tool, with human care.
...see, it is useful ;-)
and as a rap song: https://www.udio.com/songs/mqSF61aDikxbtrdnXT8t7X
[Intro] Yo, listen up, let me share my views About AI, tech, and what we’re supposed to do Hype and promises, but is it real? I’m asking questions, let’s take a peek at the deal
[Verse 1] Siri on my phone, trying to be smart But dialing a number? She’s not even in the start AI’s got the potential, we’re told every day But when I need it most, it’s nowhere in play Exam cheating’s one thing, but what about the rest? Can AI really help, or is it just a test?
[Chorus] Is AI ready? Or is it still in beta? Promises unkept, that’s what we get-a Innovation’s cool, but let’s not get ahead Of ourselves, or we’ll be left with regret
[Verse 2] Bing’s got the stats, and I’m feeling unsure People over 25, they just don’t care no more AI’s supposed to change our lives, that’s the claim But for most of us, it’s just a minor fame We need substance, not just a buzzword thrill Let AI prove itself, before we get on the bill
[Chorus] Is AI ready? Or is it still in beta? Promises unkept, that’s what we get-a Innovation’s cool, but let’s not get ahead Of ourselves, or we’ll be left with regret
[Bridge] We’re sold a dream, but what about the test? Can AI deliver, or is it just a quest? Let’s not get carried away by the hype and noise Let AI prove itself, before we make some noise
[Outro] So there you have it, my two cents on AI It’s got potential, but don’t believe the lie Let’s keep our feet on the ground, while we soar to new heights AI’s not ready yet, let’s take things in stride tonight.
[Intro] Yo, listen up, let me share my views About AI, tech, and what we’re supposed to do Hype and promises, but is it real? I’m asking questions, let’s take a peek at the deal
[Verse 1] Siri on my phone, trying to be smart But dialing a number? She’s not even in the start AI’s got the potential, we’re told every day But when I need it most, it’s nowhere in play Exam cheating’s one thing, but what about the rest? Can AI really help, or is it just a test?
[Chorus] Is AI ready? Or is it still in beta? Promises unkept, that’s what we get-a Innovation’s cool, but let’s not get ahead Of ourselves, or we’ll be left with regret
[Verse 2] Bing’s got the stats, and I’m feeling unsure People over 25, they just don’t care no more AI’s supposed to change our lives, that’s the claim But for most of us, it’s just a minor fame We need substance, not just a buzzword thrill Let AI prove itself, before we get on the bill
[Chorus] Is AI ready? Or is it still in beta? Promises unkept, that’s what we get-a Innovation’s cool, but let’s not get ahead Of ourselves, or we’ll be left with regret
[Bridge] We’re sold a dream, but what about the test? Can AI deliver, or is it just a quest? Let’s not get carried away by the hype and noise Let AI prove itself, before we make some noise
[Outro] So there you have it, my two cents on AI It’s got potential, but don’t believe the lie Let’s keep our feet on the ground, while we soar to new heights AI’s not ready yet, let’s take things in stride tonight.
Edited by spants on Wednesday 29th May 16:24
Mr E said:
Obligatory XKCD
Randall as brilliant as usual. See this incident back in 2016: The Citrix system we used for basically everything where I worked at the time suffered all manner of weirdness as a result - it took a merge-conflict of Oracle programmers quite some time to put things right, and there were still anomalies popping up from time to time. There may still be for all I know
Now imagine the same scenario here, 8 years later, involving coding for an AI that's in the process of achieving - for want of a better word - something approaching full autonomy.
Fun times await
EFA.
Edited by BrownEaredDog on Wednesday 29th May 17:14
BrownEaredDog said:
Mr E said:
Obligatory XKCD
Randall as brilliant as usual. Based upon this incident back in 2016. The Citrix system we used for basically everything where I worked at the time suffered all manner of weirdness as a result - it took a merge-conflict of Oracle programmers quite some time to put things right, and there were still anomalies popping up from time to time. There may still be for all I know
Now imagine the same scenario here, 8 years later, involving coding for an AI that's in the process of achieving - for want of a better word - something approaching full autonomy.
Fun times await
ecs said:
It happened again recently without the help of AI too: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0pT-dWpmwhA
Loads of these things happen without the help of an AI Edit: that doesn't make the subject matter of the video any less worrying though. I was thinking more about what might happen if a dev withdraws or amends some piece of code in a repository which, unknown to anyone, makes up a tiny, but important part of an AI's code?
Edited by BrownEaredDog on Wednesday 29th May 17:05
LimaDelta said:
Plenty of people didn't 'get' the internet 30 years ago. Smartphones were literally science fiction.
Technology takes time to integrate itself into our daily habit patterns and workflows.
This. It's integral to my daily workflow and saves me a good hour a day. As a business we deliver more and faster now we leverage AI wherever we can. I do work for an AI company to be fair, but we quickly sort the useful from the useless in our own search for AI tools we want to use vs the ones we build. Technology takes time to integrate itself into our daily habit patterns and workflows.
Lots of chatter about it being the 5th industrial revolution. I would tentatively agree with this, but for most people they just see what's in the news which is never the actual useful stuff it's doing.
As for Siri etc? They are multiple generations behind current tech, they will catch up but IMOP the compute cost is too high for the likes of Apple and Google to swallow if they switched them over to a generative AI platform.
bloomen said:
By the time it's properly rolling most people won't know they're using AI.
A much, much bigger danger than a mindless mashup of the last few decades of internet somehow developing a will and becoming malevolent, is humans offloading important functions and decisions on something that is... a mindless mashup of the last few decades of internet.
Since we're lazy and will burn anything in pursuit of convenience and profit some cataclysm will be caused by leaving AI in the driving seat.
A much, much bigger danger than a mindless mashup of the last few decades of internet somehow developing a will and becoming malevolent, is humans offloading important functions and decisions on something that is... a mindless mashup of the last few decades of internet.
Since we're lazy and will burn anything in pursuit of convenience and profit some cataclysm will be caused by leaving AI in the driving seat.
Well said. When we discover "AI" is actually just "I" it will likely be too late to do much about it.
I work for a company that makes use of AI as part of its solution and will continue to develop the capabilities to help solve complex problems. So yeah, there is a lot of hype, but its mostly just that, hype.
Of those that keep talking about how AI will dominate the world, its usually because they have something to sell. Its usually that their brand of AI is of course better than everyone else's. AI will provide a lot of capabilities and it will help solve some complex problems, but it wont doom the world to be slaves in a dystopian nightmare.
And dont even get me started on the security, controls and misuse of AI...
Of those that keep talking about how AI will dominate the world, its usually because they have something to sell. Its usually that their brand of AI is of course better than everyone else's. AI will provide a lot of capabilities and it will help solve some complex problems, but it wont doom the world to be slaves in a dystopian nightmare.
And dont even get me started on the security, controls and misuse of AI...
off_again said:
Of those that keep talking about how AI will dominate the world, its usually because they have something to sell. Its usually that their brand of AI is of course better than everyone else's. AI will provide a lot of capabilities and it will help solve some complex problems, but it wont doom the world to be slaves in a dystopian nightmare.
I'm sick of hearing billionaires bulls
tting about "their" AI being the "best", but it's not them that worry me - it's governments/military operations and the fact that we don't really have a clue what they're up to that do. As HorneyMX5 mentioned, the "AI" which the great unwashed have access to is several generations out of date and barely deserving of the name.
AI is just a phrase that anyone uses now when they mean 'computer'. Same when the word 'digital' was king. Replacing some drop-down filters on a website with a text box is not AI. Coming up with the answer to a calculation using programming is not AI. Taking someone's purchase history and suggesting other products is not AI. When AI pron is a bit more believable then we'll have world femdomination.
spants said:
and as a rap song: https://www.udio.com/songs/mqSF61aDikxbtrdnXT8t7X
[Intro] Yo, listen up, let me share my views About AI, tech, and what we’re supposed to do Hype and promises, but is it real? I’m asking questions, let’s take a peek at the deal
[Verse 1] Siri on my phone, trying to be smart But dialing a number? She’s not even in the start AI’s got the potential, we’re told every day But when I need it most, it’s nowhere in play Exam cheating’s one thing, but what about the rest? Can AI really help, or is it just a test?
[Chorus] Is AI ready? Or is it still in beta? Promises unkept, that’s what we get-a Innovation’s cool, but let’s not get ahead Of ourselves, or we’ll be left with regret
[Verse 2] Bing’s got the stats, and I’m feeling unsure People over 25, they just don’t care no more AI’s supposed to change our lives, that’s the claim But for most of us, it’s just a minor fame We need substance, not just a buzzword thrill Let AI prove itself, before we get on the bill
[Chorus] Is AI ready? Or is it still in beta? Promises unkept, that’s what we get-a Innovation’s cool, but let’s not get ahead Of ourselves, or we’ll be left with regret
[Bridge] We’re sold a dream, but what about the test? Can AI deliver, or is it just a quest? Let’s not get carried away by the hype and noise Let AI prove itself, before we make some noise
[Outro] So there you have it, my two cents on AI It’s got potential, but don’t believe the lie Let’s keep our feet on the ground, while we soar to new heights AI’s not ready yet, let’s take things in stride tonight.
And in a popular idiom;[Intro] Yo, listen up, let me share my views About AI, tech, and what we’re supposed to do Hype and promises, but is it real? I’m asking questions, let’s take a peek at the deal
[Verse 1] Siri on my phone, trying to be smart But dialing a number? She’s not even in the start AI’s got the potential, we’re told every day But when I need it most, it’s nowhere in play Exam cheating’s one thing, but what about the rest? Can AI really help, or is it just a test?
[Chorus] Is AI ready? Or is it still in beta? Promises unkept, that’s what we get-a Innovation’s cool, but let’s not get ahead Of ourselves, or we’ll be left with regret
[Verse 2] Bing’s got the stats, and I’m feeling unsure People over 25, they just don’t care no more AI’s supposed to change our lives, that’s the claim But for most of us, it’s just a minor fame We need substance, not just a buzzword thrill Let AI prove itself, before we get on the bill
[Chorus] Is AI ready? Or is it still in beta? Promises unkept, that’s what we get-a Innovation’s cool, but let’s not get ahead Of ourselves, or we’ll be left with regret
[Bridge] We’re sold a dream, but what about the test? Can AI deliver, or is it just a quest? Let’s not get carried away by the hype and noise Let AI prove itself, before we make some noise
[Outro] So there you have it, my two cents on AI It’s got potential, but don’t believe the lie Let’s keep our feet on the ground, while we soar to new heights AI’s not ready yet, let’s take things in stride tonight.
Now this is a story all about why,
AI's hype just ain't gonna fly,
And I'd like to take a minute, just sit right there,
I'll tell you how this tech ain't close to being everywhere.
In West Tech-adelphia, not feeling so cool,
Siri's messin' up calls, got me actin' like a fool.
I try to use AI, but it just won't dare,
To dial a number right, man, it's just not fair.
Yo, AI's in the news, making headlines and cheating,
But my experience with it, has got me retreating.
If this is where we're at, AI's chance is rare,
Of taking over the world, it's just hot air.
Bing had an article, just the other day,
Said despite all the hype, less people want to play.
They're using AI less, not in a major way,
Unless you're 18 to 25, it's just passé.
So, yeah, it's cool for the youth, that I can admit,
But for most of us folks, it just doesn't fit.
Mods, this ain't a tech rant, more a general gripe,
About how we're being sold on this AI hype.
It can't do the basics, like dial a call,
So how's it gonna rise up and dominate us all?
A whinge about life, and tech's shiny facade,
In this AI world, man, I feel like I'm being conned.
off_again said:
And dont even get me started on the security, controls and misuse of AI...
Ah yes. The topic of my Linkedin post today reminding companies that public AI is... public. If you really want the equivalent of Wikileaks showing the CEO asked "how to fire someone" at some point in the future, then by all means put your company information on a public computer! bigpriest said:
AI is just a phrase that anyone uses now when they mean 'computer'. Same when the word 'digital' was king. Replacing some drop-down filters on a website with a text box is not AI. Coming up with the answer to a calculation using programming is not AI. Taking someone's purchase history and suggesting other products is not AI. When AI pron is a bit more believable then we'll have world femdomination.
100% this. 'AI' has been around in various forms for 30+ years. About a decade ago the buzz was around 'machine learning'.
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