Travellers Site London - Shepherd's Bush

[NSNO]

I was just playing around on Google maps and street view and came across this travellers site near to the Westfield in Shepherd's Bush. Some of the homes look pretty permanent. Anyone know the history of what happened here and who owns the land.

Not sure if this is the correct forum.

[gotoPzero]

One under the fly over? Probably council I would have thought.

[davidpn]

I was interested in this too and did a little research last year. A few videos that might interest you:

https://youtu.be/b9A26_g9GS4?si=hybt4dUvKsAuUWHQ

https://youtu.be/WUGgpXPPfFo?si=NFDyUPhQNPD3Uc8J

https://youtu.be/7vbVPAV3OjE?si=wyghOSUMf8kJoCtX

[NSNO]

davidpn said:

I was interested in this too and did a little research last year. A few videos that might interest you:

https://youtu.be/b9A26_g9GS4?si=hybt4dUvKsAuUWHQ

https://youtu.be/WUGgpXPPfFo?si=NFDyUPhQNPD3Uc8J

https://youtu.be/7vbVPAV3OjE?si=wyghOSUMf8kJoCtX

Cheers, interesting videos. I've driven past this in the past, but don't recall seeing it. Seems like it has been there for quite some years now though.

[NSNO]

gotoPzero said:

One under the fly over? Probably council I would have thought.

Yep, that's the one.

[Puggit]

nuyorican said:

Can you post up a street view link?

There's a 'traveller's' site near me. As you say, some of the homes look pretty permanent, walls around them etc. In a lovely area too. Would be interesting to know how it works. I was generally under the perhaps naive understanding that each council had to provide a site for them to pull up onto as they travelled. I remember living in one area where the council had elected to build their site right on the edge of the county next to a town in the neighbouring county. Very crafty. Wonder if they all do that?

https://www.google.com/maps/@51.5140018,-0.2211186,3a,75y,15.58h,73.96t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1samBDhnewHUGnqP01p-S4PQ!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3DamBDhnewHUGnqP01p-S4PQ%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D76.78699%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i13312!8i6656?coh=205409&entry=ttu

[bimsb6]

nuyorican said:

NSNO said:

I was just playing around on Google maps and street view and came across this travellers site near to the Westfield in Shepherd's Bush. Some of the homes look pretty permanent. Anyone know the history of what happened here and who owns the land.

Not sure if this is the correct forum.

Can you post up a street view link?

There's a 'traveller's' site near me. As you say, some of the homes look pretty permanent, walls around them etc. In a lovely area too. Would be interesting to know how it works. I was generally under the perhaps naive understanding that each council had to provide a site for them to pull up onto as they travelled. I remember living in one area where the council had elected to build their site right on the edge of the county next to a town in the neighbouring county. Very crafty. Wonder if they all do that?

There’s loads near me , the most notorious one is next to frank bruno, most of the plots are owned my one man who rents the plots , some too travellers some as air b and b! And some just rented out to anybody . I’m pretty sure this breaks all the rules as being a “traveler “ site .

[NapierDeltic]

nuyorican said:

Can you post up a street view link?

There's a 'traveller's' site near me. As you say, some of the homes look pretty permanent, walls around them etc. In a lovely area too. Would be interesting to know how it works. I was generally under the perhaps naive understanding that each council had to provide a site for them to pull up onto as they travelled. I remember living in one area where the council had elected to build their site right on the edge of the county next to a town in the neighbouring county. Very crafty. Wonder if they all do that?

There is a site outside Pumpherston, Livingston that looks fairly permanent and appears to have grown, piecemeal over time. Initially there were one or two 'anchor' caravans and other bits and pieces, followed by chalets on foundations with demarcated boundaries, fences and gardens. There are a lot of former industrial sites, linked to the mining industry, in this area and quite a few have boulders or other impediments in place to stop the travelling community from pitching up. The council has to provision certain levels of service for them, including education for the children, so they can't simply turn up with bulldozers and shift them on. Presumably once the travelers have an 'in' for a specific site that goes unnoticed, it becomes exponentially harder to remove them. By the time they add rudimentary power infrastructure, plumbing etc it becomes even harder.

A few of us had to walk past the Pumpherston site last year to visit the Edinburgh Society Of Model Engineers site at Almondell. There was water running out of the traveler site that smelled strongly of raw sewage, so I assume plumbing is a bit approximate or they have oversubscribed whatever infrastructure they initially installed.

One of my friends was going to park her car outside the "holiday chalets", but was talked out of it!

[bimsb6]

NapierDeltic said:

nuyorican said:

Can you post up a street view link?

There's a 'traveller's' site near me. As you say, some of the homes look pretty permanent, walls around them etc. In a lovely area too. Would be interesting to know how it works. I was generally under the perhaps naive understanding that each council had to provide a site for them to pull up onto as they travelled. I remember living in one area where the council had elected to build their site right on the edge of the county next to a town in the neighbouring county. Very crafty. Wonder if they all do that?

There is a site outside Pumpherston, Livingston that looks fairly permanent and appears to have grown, piecemeal over time. Initially there were one or two 'anchor' caravans and other bits and pieces, followed by chalets on foundations with demarcated boundaries, fences and gardens. There are a lot of former industrial sites, linked to the mining industry, in this area and quite a few have boulders or other impediments in place to stop the travelling community from pitching up. The council has to provision certain levels of service for them, including education for the children, so they can't simply turn up with bulldozers and shift them on. Presumably once the travelers have an 'in' for a specific site that goes unnoticed, it becomes exponentially harder to remove them. By the time they add rudimentary power infrastructure, plumbing etc it becomes even harder.

A few of us had to walk past the Pumpherston site last year to visit the Edinburgh Society Of Model Engineers site at Almondell. There was water running out of the traveler site that smelled strongly of raw sewage, so I assume plumbing is a bit approximate or they have oversubscribed whatever infrastructure they initially installed.

One of my friends was going to park her car outside the "holiday chalets", but was talked out of it!

They will have plumbed into the nearest ditch or drain .

[dikkobat]

Thats the one at Fernileee? I remember when the Kynochs had it - they emigrated to Oz in 87 i think - theres old mine shafts in them woods and i would guess they keep expanding it further into the woods - horrible waterlogged place it is so assuming they putting down plenty shale as hard-standing. Its pretty much swampland......think along the lines of the movie Southern Comfort!

[beambeam1]

NapierDeltic said:

There is a site outside Pumpherston, Livingston that looks fairly permanent and appears to have grown, piecemeal over time.

Aye. We were looking at the Dundas development about 18 months ago as the houses were of a decent size for an OK price plus the train station next door. I was sat browsing Google Earth at night and started to realise that beyond the undeveloped land on the outskirts of the estate being developed, traveller's had clearly been taking the piss over time and we decided we didn't fancy it at all. I suspect something has been going on as a lot of the new builds seemed to be quickly going up for sale again once completed and purchased.

[gotoPzero]

Its almost like the DM browse this forum..

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13624359/...

[essayer]

Got to say this is pretty brave driving by the Google street view driver

https://maps.app.goo.gl/vGS9GChLEzPBexre9

[Tenacious]

essayer said:

Got to say this is pretty brave driving by the Google street view driver

https://maps.app.goo.gl/vGS9GChLEzPBexre9

I feel sorry for the mk3 Supra.

[pherlopolus]

Interesting kit car in the garage on the corner! And the Gumball 3000 office is right here too 😂

[Douglas Quaid]

Tenacious said:

essayer said:

Got to say this is pretty brave driving by the Google street view driver

https://maps.app.goo.gl/vGS9GChLEzPBexre9

I feel sorry for the mk3 Supra.

I had one of those. Heavy and thirsty. It looked fast but it wasn’t. Although admittedly it probably wasn’t running at full capacity. I

[Tenacious]

Douglas Quaid said:

Tenacious said:

essayer said:

Got to say this is pretty brave driving by the Google street view driver

https://maps.app.goo.gl/vGS9GChLEzPBexre9

I feel sorry for the mk3 Supra.

I had one of those. Heavy and thirsty. It looked fast but it wasn’t. Although admittedly it probably wasn’t running at full capacity. I

Turbo or N/A?

[Quhet]

gotoPzero said:

Its almost like the DM browse this forum..

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13624359/...

That article is terribly written. Full of all sorts of mistakes

[mac96]

Quhet said:

gotoPzero said:

Its almost like the DM browse this forum..

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13624359/...

That article is terribly written. Full of all sorts of mistakes

Comments are even better. People complaining that they are not travelling! And if they were travelling the same people would be complaining about that instead.

Considering that they seem to be the ideal sort of traveller- causing no trouble and on a legal site, I really don't see what more they can do.