Being neighbourly - consideration for others

Being neighbourly - consideration for others

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Slow.Patrol

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1,651 posts

28 months

Tuesday 15th April
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A couple of years ago we had some work done on our house.

Ever day we moved our cars off the drive, parked them in the road where they didn't inconvenience anyone so the builders could park their vans on our drive to access their tools. We also provided a map showing where the visitor spaces were if the drive was full.

Our neighbours are having work done. They have two cars, one on the drive, one outside the house. Both not moved to the empty visitor spaces opposite. Consequently their builder has parked partly in front of our drive with a wheel on our front grass.

It seems that this is the way these days, especially with younger people. Our older neighbours had work done recently and made sure their drive was clear for the builders.

Is this a thing now? I'm alright Jack?

Blib

45,867 posts

211 months

Tuesday 15th April
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Have you made you neighbour aware of this?

Resentment is drinking poison and expecting the other person to die.

TownIdiot

3,527 posts

13 months

Tuesday 15th April
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Whilst the neighbour could have been more proactive, the fault lies with the builder.

If a quite word with them doesn't work, follow up with some loud ones, probably containing F.

Then talk to the neighbour.

If nothing changes after that then yes I agree - the youth of today has no respect.


Slow.Patrol

Original Poster:

1,651 posts

28 months

Tuesday 15th April
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Blib said:
Have you made you neighbour aware of this?

Resentment is drinking poison and expecting the other person to die.
No. Not yet.

Since they moved in two years ago, it is evident that they have no consideration for others.

We are off out in a minute and will be knocking on their door to get the van moved. I might mention it.

captain_cynic

14,884 posts

109 months

Tuesday 15th April
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Slow.Patrol said:
A couple of years ago we had some work done on our house.

Ever day we moved our cars off the drive, parked them in the road where they didn't inconvenience anyone so the builders could park their vans on our drive to access their tools. We also provided a map showing where the visitor spaces were if the drive was full.

Our neighbours are having work done. They have two cars, one on the drive, one outside the house. Both not moved to the empty visitor spaces opposite. Consequently their builder has parked partly in front of our drive with a wheel on our front grass.

It seems that this is the way these days, especially with younger people. Our older neighbours had work done recently and made sure their drive was clear for the builders.

Is this a thing now? I'm alright Jack?
People just don't give a st about anyone but themselves these days. Builders doubly so.

I park on the road with one wheel on the kerb (plenty of room to pass on my street even if the neighbours opposite are doing the same) I do this as not to ruin the nature srrip and there is a manhole on said nature strip.

A builder came in to fix the garden wall (insurance jobbie) and drove their van onto the nature strip leaving deep ruts on the mud that are still there months on. There is enough room to park a full sizes Tranny van on.the road and traffic will still flow with no problems.

Air travel is the best expression of this. The kind of person who lugs a massive carry on case. Struggles to lift it into the overhead bin, sees that it takes up half then in, a space meant for 3 seats and thinks "that's fine". Hell is other passengers to paraphrase Sartre.

The trolly choice is the best measure of how altruistic someone is. After unloading your shopping do you take your trolley to a bay or just leave it?

It takes very little effort to take the trolley back and just a moment of your time, conversely there are zero personal risks or consequences for just leaving it in a car park.

Personally I take other people's trolleys back, does that make me a good person? I'm muttering obscenities the whole way so I guess I'm still OK.



Edited by captain_cynic on Tuesday 15th April 09:48

Spare tyre

11,112 posts

144 months

Tuesday 15th April
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Some people don’t have the mental capacity to consider others, some people just think about themselves

My sister is a horrid mix of both, your best mate when she wants something the second she gets what she wants she couldn’t care one bit for you


Others are just bad at planning / time management

Spare tyre

11,112 posts

144 months

Tuesday 15th April
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captain_cynic said:
People just don't give a st about anyone but themselves these days. Builders doubly so.

I park on the road with one wheel on the kerb (plenty of room to pass on my street even if the neighbours opposite are doing the same) I do this as not to ruin the nature srrip and there is a manhole on said nature strip.

A builder came in to fix the garden wall (insurance jobbie) and drove their van onto the nature strip leaving deep ruts on the mud that are still there months on. There is enough room to park a full sizes Tranny van on.the road and traffic will still flow with no problems.

Air travel is the best expression of this. The kind of person who lugs a massive carry on case. Struggles to lift it into the overhead bin, sees that it takes up half then in, a space meant for 3 seats and thinks "that's fine". Hell is other passengers to paraphrase Sartre.

The trolly choice is the best measure of how altruistic someone is. After unloading your shopping so you take your trolley to a bay or just leave it?

It takes very little effort to take the trolley back and just a moment of your time, conversely there are zero personal risks or consequences for just leaving it in a car park.

Personally I take other people's trolleys back, does that make me a good person? I'm muttering obscenities the whole way so I guess I'm still OK.
Look up cart narcs on YouTube

RayDonovan

5,469 posts

229 months

Tuesday 15th April
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Our drive was blocked by a builder a few months back.

He almost seemed annoyed when I went over and told him quite firmly to move it.

otolith

61,087 posts

218 months

Tuesday 15th April
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captain_cynic said:
The trolly choice is the best measure of how altruistic someone is. After unloading your shopping do you take your trolley to a bay or just leave it?

It takes very little effort to take the trolley back and just a moment of your time, conversely there are zero personal risks or consequences for just leaving it in a car park.

Personally I take other people's trolleys back, does that make me a good person? I'm muttering obscenities the whole way so I guess I'm still OK.
Really selfish people leave it blocking a parking space.

This was next level.




Spare tyre

11,112 posts

144 months

Tuesday 15th April
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otolith said:
captain_cynic said:
The trolly choice is the best measure of how altruistic someone is. After unloading your shopping do you take your trolley to a bay or just leave it?

It takes very little effort to take the trolley back and just a moment of your time, conversely there are zero personal risks or consequences for just leaving it in a car park.

Personally I take other people's trolleys back, does that make me a good person? I'm muttering obscenities the whole way so I guess I'm still OK.
Really selfish people leave it blocking a parking space.

This was next level.



My mum looks after her nice car, parks it away from people

She was away on holiday and parked the car at the end of the supermarket car park to avoid bellends

What she failed to notice was the slope of the car park

There was a local thing where you just let you trolley go and it drifted to end end of the car park

The trolley boy said he’d just collected them all just before she arrived and when she got back there were numerous trolleys around the car

Some people really are lazy toe rags


That said when you have the £1 trolley deposit, in December when it’s freezing it’s amazing how many people still don’t return them, my kid earnt a fiver for a few minutes work returning others trolleys



Also, when I was a teen I had a Saturday job at Sainsburys, sometimes on the trolleys

The locals would often take a trolley back home and dock it in the street with all the other trolleys. When the trolleys got to about 30 in length we would get dispatched to go and get them

Was a laugh as it killed time, but lazy ass holes

Sheepshanks

36,759 posts

133 months

Tuesday 15th April
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Slow.Patrol said:
It seems that this is the way these days, especially with younger people. Our older neighbours had work done recently and made sure their drive was clear for the builders.
If they're young of either sex, or single older blokes, I find it just dosn't occur to them to think of others. However if you point it out to them they're mortified that they may have upset you.

Sheets Tabuer

20,227 posts

229 months

Tuesday 15th April
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Slow.Patrol said:
Is this a thing now? I'm alright Jack?
Yes, this is a thing now. I have a lovely view from my front room but the neighbours drive vans for work. Despite asking them again and again if they wouldn't mind parking outside their own house they park outside mine so all I ever get to see is a big white van.

Wouldn't mind if they lived next door but they live 50 yds up the road and there's two of them.

I don't think anyone cares anymore.

Alorotom

12,380 posts

201 months

Tuesday 15th April
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When I was having some work done / work men at the house / etc.

I called round to all my immediate neighbours (only 3 houses in fairness) to let them know of the disruption and noice from deliveries etc… and did the same as the OP re moving vehicles

Resultantly when 2 of the neighbours have had extensions built / works done they’ve done the same - would they have done this if I hadn’t done the initial “ground work” with ours … I hope so, but not totally sure.

They did however all appreciate the heads up!

Slow.Patrol

Original Poster:

1,651 posts

28 months

Tuesday 15th April
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Alorotom said:
When I was having some work done / work men at the house / etc.

I called round to all my immediate neighbours (only 3 houses in fairness) to let them know of the disruption and noice from deliveries etc… and did the same as the OP re moving vehicles

Resultantly when 2 of the neighbours have had extensions built / works done they’ve done the same - would they have done this if I hadn’t done the initial “ground work” with ours … I hope so, but not totally sure.

They did however all appreciate the heads up!
We did the same.

We consequently got a phone call when we were out to say one of our builders had partly parked on the communal grass area.

Turned out it was one of our other neighbours.

Spare tyre

11,112 posts

144 months

Tuesday 15th April
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I think a lot of it comes also down to everyone living on top of each other, less space etc

My folks have lived in their street for over 40 years. Back in the day there was never a car on the road parked - most houses had 1 car. Now it’s hard to park on their road, every house has at least 2 cars some 4, then the teenagers visitors etc

In the 80s you could have parked 60 builders vans with no drama, now you would upset various folk parking 2

Sheepshanks

36,759 posts

133 months

Tuesday 15th April
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Spare tyre said:
I think a lot of it comes also down to everyone living on top of each other, less space etc

My folks have lived in their street for over 40 years. Back in the day there was never a car on the road parked - most houses had 1 car. Now it’s hard to park on their road, every house has at least 2 cars some 4, then the teenagers visitors etc

In the 80s you could have parked 60 builders vans with no drama, now you would upset various folk parking 2
It's gone full circle in our road - well, halfway round the circle maybe - mostly old people now, who have been her for many years (we've been here 39 years) so kids have gone and a fair number of single occupants. Often the road is completely clear of cars.

I thought we'd get young families as the oldies die off but the last couple of sales have been to old folks moving into the village to be near their kids.

Alex_225

6,878 posts

215 months

Tuesday 15th April
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Slow.Patrol said:
Since they moved in two years ago, it is evident that they have no consideration for others.
Sadly I think there are so many people like this now!

I lived in my last house (semi detached) for around 15 years and the neighbours we were attached to were generally a thoughtless bunch. From noise from their kids which I can't believe they couldn't hear (shouting, doors slamming at 2am etc.) to parking his broken down van on the edge of our driveway until the Police force him to move it. I'm glad I didn't share the driveway with him as his other neighbour was sick of the mess he'd leave.

Frustratingly really nice people to talk to but had zero idea of the impact they had on other people around them and of course being neighbours you don't want to nag about every little thing but they were annoying.

By contrast my new next door neighbours we hardly cross paths. In detached properties and I share the opening to the road but not a driveway with one neighbour. Ironically the neighbours the other side are a retired couple but very precious, garden is like something from a brochure unlike mine (work in progress left from the old owner) but like I say we hardly ever cross paths.

bobtail4x4

3,984 posts

123 months

Tuesday 15th April
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a few years back we built our house,
one of the brickies likes loud radio music while he works slowly,
it annoyed me, never mind next door, 50 yds away,
asked him to turn it down,
later I turned it down,
third time I kicked it off the scaffold, and told him not to come back,
useless git took all day to build a brick pillar that should have taken a couple of hours, AND he forgot the dpc so had to start again the next day,

cliffords

2,424 posts

37 months

Tuesday 15th April
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I had a plasterer at our house . He parked so others could not pass. Had loud music playing,and spent more time on his phone than mixing plaster. I used to have a really fierce temper. I would turn very unpleasant quickly . On day two I packed all his stuff and him in his van by about 10 am. He had arrived about 9 am, so I lasted an hour .

He had no idea at all why his behaviour was unacceptable. He was not being obtuse, he literally lived in a parallel universe.


Tuesday 15th April
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Sheets Tabuer said:
Yes, this is a thing now. I have a lovely view from my front room but the neighbours drive vans for work. Despite asking them again and again if they wouldn't mind parking outside their own house they park outside mine so all I ever get to see is a big white van.

Wouldn't mind if they lived next door but they live 50 yds up the road and there's two of them.

I don't think anyone cares anymore.
Are they illegally parked?