Card machine charity begging
Card machine charity begging
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Gavin0478

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480 posts

164 months

Tuesday 27th May 2025
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Is just me but has anyone else noticed this sudden influx?
Instead of being able to just pay for your purchase by card (contactless or insert and pin) that nearly every shop is trying to get you to donate to random charities.
I am now at an age where I need reading glasses but I often dont carry them when I nip to get shopping, some shoes, maybe some car parts etc and I do feel this is a very sly way to try and get these donations as on some machines you have to touch an area, on others you need to press the red button etc, all in a very small font on the screen, much smaller than when the cost of your goods are displayed (good job i'm not colour blind, partially sighted or dyslexic) and then only sometimes the cashier will even alert you to this.

Yes I do donate to charity, but it's the ones chosen by myself and when I feel I can afford to.

WelshRich

484 posts

80 months

Tuesday 27th May 2025
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It does seem to be spreading, but in my experience the cashier often leans over and clears the donation option as a matter of course…

N111BJG

1,232 posts

86 months

Tuesday 27th May 2025
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I had a meal in a pub which is part of a small local chain of similar establishments, they proudly announced that they had raised £5,000 for local charities over the past year or so.

This was achieved by automatically adding £1 to every bill. What a bloody cheek !!

littleowl

890 posts

256 months

Tuesday 27th May 2025
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It's the chip & pin equivalent of the 'buy me a coffee' grift that is rampant across social media.

dxg

10,140 posts

283 months

Tuesday 27th May 2025
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It helps with the ESG metrics... :/

thetapeworm

13,324 posts

262 months

Tuesday 27th May 2025
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I had an "optional" extra on a restaurant bill the other day for a "Gift Tree", this was on top of the "optional" 12.35% service charge (which I didn't begrudge as the service was good).




Countdown

47,412 posts

219 months

Tuesday 27th May 2025
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Noticed a £4 charge on the TUI website when booking our holiday. I thought I had removed it but somehow they sneaked it back on.

Frimley111R

18,413 posts

257 months

Wednesday 28th May 2025
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In some places i don't mind it, for example in McDonalds I always click the round up button but if it's adding a tree planting to my dinner bill then I wouldn't like that.

Stick Legs

8,390 posts

188 months

Wednesday 28th May 2025
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McDonalds record with charity is very good and verifiable, and the Ronald McDonald House initiative is a good one.

Others I don't bother with. My normal (curmudgeonly) rule with charities is that if it's not 100% clear where the donation goes, or if the CEO of the charity is on £600k a year salary they can FRO.

Cotty

41,911 posts

307 months

Wednesday 28th May 2025
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Is there any benefit to the shop to have the donation option show up on the card machine?
Thing is it doesn't make the shop look any better, as any money raised isn't coming from their pocket.

It appears most people don't like it and if people want to give to charity then they will have their own preferences.

ThingsBehindTheSun

3,155 posts

54 months

Wednesday 28th May 2025
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It annoys me that a company making billions a year in profits are expecting me to donate to charity. This goes double in super markets where I know they are throwing away thousands of tons of food a year rather than donating it to charity as they don't want the hassle/risk of being sued.

Same as celebrities such as U2 and Bob Geldof who no doubt have millions in offshore tax avoidance schemes telling me to donate money. If you are so worried about it give away all your wealth.

JoshSm

3,624 posts

60 months

Wednesday 28th May 2025
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Countdown said:
Noticed a £4 charge on the TUI website when booking our holiday. I thought I had removed it but somehow they sneaked it back on.
A cynic would wonder if the removal feature actually works; a reasonable percentage of people will untick the box, but how many will chase the £4 'mistake'? Or would try it again under controlled conditions to check it isn't broken?

There's plenty of nice types out there who'd see that sort of cheat as perfectly ethical in pursuit of the greater good.


As someone said earlier I prefer to make my own choices about what I donate to and having people try their little coercive games & nudges turns me right off.

anonymous-user

77 months

Saturday 31st May 2025
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thetapeworm said:
I had an "optional" extra on a restaurant bill the other day for a "Gift Tree", this was on top of the "optional" 12.35% service charge (which I didn't begrudge as the service was good).

Ambling firmly off topic here but it should, IMHO, be against the law to automatically add anything described as optional to a bill, it s deeply underhand and borderline dishonest. It s a surefire way to end a dining experience on a sour note by having to ask to remove it for whatever reason. We went to a chain restaurant a while back and had to refuse the dessert, which had clearly been wrongly defrosted/prepped or whatever, and the bill still came out with an optional service charged whacked on it. The problem with the meal obviously wasn t the fault of the waiting staff, who did a perfectly decent job, but equally I m not f*cking tipping the place when they can t even defrost and serve a couple of standard dishes from their mainstream menu. Having to ask to have it removed was a particularly unpleasant way to end the meal.

Back to charidee stuff, Motor Fuels Group (MFG) forecourts I find always have the charitable giving thing pop up on their chip and pin machines, but the staff almost always cancel it before taking payment.

Edited by anonymous-user on Saturday 31st May 01:01

Alex Z

1,971 posts

99 months

Saturday 31st May 2025
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thetapeworm said:
I had an "optional" extra on a restaurant bill the other day for a "Gift Tree", this was on top of the "optional" 12.35% service charge (which I didn't begrudge as the service was good).

If I was certain that this was actually happening (and it being something bigger than a stick) then I’d be quite happy to donate if asked. Less keen on it being sneaked in.

Crumpet

5,027 posts

203 months

Saturday 31st May 2025
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A partial solution to this nonsense, for restaurants at least, is to leave reviews with a score that will bring their average down and clearly state why.

I’ve often been fobbed off in hotels and restaurants for various (justified) complaints but as soon as you leave a review on Google or Tripadvisor they’re quickly in touch offering free nights or meals.

Sadly there are probably lots of people out there who leave a bad review as a matter of course in order to get these ‘freebies’ - extortion basically. I’m sure I read somewhere it’s a classic Instagrammer trick.

Actual

1,579 posts

129 months

Saturday 31st May 2025
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An optional customer donation would be much more acceptable if the business matched the amount of the donation.

RammyMP

7,505 posts

176 months

Saturday 31st May 2025
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In Cumbria Booths supermarkets do it on the card machine, red for no, green to donate. I don’t mind giving them 25p as it goes to the local mountain rescue units and I might need them one day!

davek_964

10,706 posts

198 months

Saturday 31st May 2025
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Seems Lidl have started doing it. Saw it just now for the first time.

Super Josh

315 posts

242 months

Saturday 31st May 2025
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davek_964 said:
Seems Lidl have started doing it. Saw it just now for the first time.
And our local Aldi too frown

davek_964

10,706 posts

198 months

Saturday 31st May 2025
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I wonder how far away we are from them following the restaurant model : Added by default and you need to ask to have it taken off .....