Neighbour across the road being an arse
Discussion
After discussing the issues with my friends im now bring this to the PH arena for comments.
I have just moved into my new home which im renting. The property is set back from the road and has no driveway. The is a bus stop and council owned grass in front of my property. When I viewed the property the agent advised that I should follow next door's approach and just drive across the grass to my property. When I was given the keys to the property, I went straight round to take a looksee only to find the council had stuck 8 or 10 saplings into the grass preventing me driving across the grass to the property.
Upon entering the property, there was a letter from the county council advising me that I should not drive across the grass as I am damaging it and that I am breaching the Highways Act 1980 Section 184 by crossing an existing footway/verge without a permit from the Highway Authority and is therefore an offence. An offence it turns out which carries a £20 fine or £50 for repeat offences.
There is a small side road across the B road which runs parallel with the B road in front of my property, which is where I am parking my car. Im not happy that im carrying my 14week old son across this busy B road to and from the car when we go anywhere but its how it is. The crooks of the matter is that the guy across the road from me has told me basically not to park infront of his house. As the road is a public road and not his private driveway he can go do one. But this Easter weekend he has been a right arse.
He has two cars and his works van. Usually the cars are parked on the driveway and the works van on the road. These he has parked on the road infront of his next door neighbour making parking on the side road difficult for me and my neighbours who also use the road. Also, my landlord delivered a new bathroom suite to my next door neighbour yesterday evening and did so by driving on the grass. The guy across the road was seen taking photographs of my landlord's car parked on the grass and it turns out took photographs of the van i hired to move my furniture when that was parked in front of my house.
Im concerned as to why he is taking photographs. Is he passing these on to the council? My next door neighbour (mother of 5) says he is a c**k and has been since she moved in. When I went out to my car last night to collect a box and to make sure it was securely locked I saw him watching me from an upstairs window. I gave him a wave.
So I am asking what do you guys make of this situation. Do I sabotage and thumb tac his driveway? Do I get sum local youth to spraypaint paedo on the side of his van in the middle of the night. The old folk next door in the care home would love a scandal like that I reckon. Or do I live with it and play musical chairs with the parking for evermore?
I have just moved into my new home which im renting. The property is set back from the road and has no driveway. The is a bus stop and council owned grass in front of my property. When I viewed the property the agent advised that I should follow next door's approach and just drive across the grass to my property. When I was given the keys to the property, I went straight round to take a looksee only to find the council had stuck 8 or 10 saplings into the grass preventing me driving across the grass to the property.
Upon entering the property, there was a letter from the county council advising me that I should not drive across the grass as I am damaging it and that I am breaching the Highways Act 1980 Section 184 by crossing an existing footway/verge without a permit from the Highway Authority and is therefore an offence. An offence it turns out which carries a £20 fine or £50 for repeat offences.
There is a small side road across the B road which runs parallel with the B road in front of my property, which is where I am parking my car. Im not happy that im carrying my 14week old son across this busy B road to and from the car when we go anywhere but its how it is. The crooks of the matter is that the guy across the road from me has told me basically not to park infront of his house. As the road is a public road and not his private driveway he can go do one. But this Easter weekend he has been a right arse.
He has two cars and his works van. Usually the cars are parked on the driveway and the works van on the road. These he has parked on the road infront of his next door neighbour making parking on the side road difficult for me and my neighbours who also use the road. Also, my landlord delivered a new bathroom suite to my next door neighbour yesterday evening and did so by driving on the grass. The guy across the road was seen taking photographs of my landlord's car parked on the grass and it turns out took photographs of the van i hired to move my furniture when that was parked in front of my house.
Im concerned as to why he is taking photographs. Is he passing these on to the council? My next door neighbour (mother of 5) says he is a c**k and has been since she moved in. When I went out to my car last night to collect a box and to make sure it was securely locked I saw him watching me from an upstairs window. I gave him a wave.
So I am asking what do you guys make of this situation. Do I sabotage and thumb tac his driveway? Do I get sum local youth to spraypaint paedo on the side of his van in the middle of the night. The old folk next door in the care home would love a scandal like that I reckon. Or do I live with it and play musical chairs with the parking for evermore?
Edited by fullbeem on Tuesday 14th April 10:13
The guy has probably lived on your street forever and takes exception to new people moving in. One of our neighbours is exactly like this, have been the longest term residents (nearly 30 odd years), yet other neighbours who all get on with one another and say hello etc. have nothing to do with our loathsome neighbours. Just one of those things unfortunately. I am guessing you will have to either tolerate this neighour or as someone previously mentioned move accommodation.
I would advise against retaliation as you will probably run the risk of a constant tit for tat scenario developing and this neighbour of your's clearly has the hallmarks (judging by the current situation) to be small minded enough to keep at you if you attempt tin tacks on driveway type shenanigans.
I would advise against retaliation as you will probably run the risk of a constant tit for tat scenario developing and this neighbour of your's clearly has the hallmarks (judging by the current situation) to be small minded enough to keep at you if you attempt tin tacks on driveway type shenanigans.
Romanymagic said:
I would advise against retaliation as you will probably run the risk of a constant tit for tat scenario developing and this neighbour of your's clearly has the hallmarks (judging by the current situation) to be small minded enough to keep at you if you attempt tin tacks on driveway type shenanigans.
I'd do this....Had a similar situation with a neighbour a few years ago. He had a lot more time on his hands to be a t
t.cjs said:
Sounds like a situation that will never get resolved, it will only escalate unless you back down and park somewhere else. Best bet is to move to a decent road with parking.
I agree, it will just keep getting worse until someone cracks. I think your best bet is to be pre-emptive and go straight for the killing blow, shag his wife.There is absolutely nothing he can do to top that except maybe kill you but you'll have the last laugh when he gets arrested.
HTH
M3CHA-MONK3Y said:
cjs said:
Sounds like a situation that will never get resolved, it will only escalate unless you back down and park somewhere else. Best bet is to move to a decent road with parking.
I agree, it will just keep getting worse until someone cracks. I think your best bet is to be pre-emptive and go straight for the killing blow, shag his wife.There is absolutely nothing he can do to top that except maybe kill you but you'll have the last laugh when he gets arrested.
HTH
On street parking always gets this sort of crap, people get obsessed with "their" space outside their house and even though it's a public road they get stupid about it.
The basic problem is the agent said you could park on the driveway and now you find it's an offence for you to do so, well either a) get the agent to put a drop kerb in so you can use your driveway legally b) move as the property is not suitable for you or c) put up with neighbour tit-for-tat who will probably get bored after a week or so and leave you to it.
IMO he's the cock by having three vehicles parked on the road but strictly speaking there's nothing illegal about it provided they are all taxed and insured (you have checked this haven't you?) www.askmid.com
The basic problem is the agent said you could park on the driveway and now you find it's an offence for you to do so, well either a) get the agent to put a drop kerb in so you can use your driveway legally b) move as the property is not suitable for you or c) put up with neighbour tit-for-tat who will probably get bored after a week or so and leave you to it.
IMO he's the cock by having three vehicles parked on the road but strictly speaking there's nothing illegal about it provided they are all taxed and insured (you have checked this haven't you?) www.askmid.com
kaese said:
Romanymagic said:
I would advise against retaliation as you will probably run the risk of a constant tit for tat scenario developing and this neighbour of your's clearly has the hallmarks (judging by the current situation) to be small minded enough to keep at you if you attempt tin tacks on driveway type shenanigans.
I'd do this....Had a similar situation with a neighbour a few years ago. He had a lot more time on his hands to be a tt.sleep envy said:
possibly a controversial post but maybe talking to him might be the answer
People can be really strange about parking outside their house. We have a couple who are good friends of ours and seem perfectly normal except that they get completely weird about people parking outside their house. Even if someone just stops they stand in the window and stare at them until they move on.Personally, I'd go knock on his door and ask for a chat - ask him where he thinks you should park, bearing mind the kids / council.
If he gets out of order, don't lose control - just simply calmly inform him that since he doesn't have a better idea, you'll continue to park there, as is your right to do so.
If the then threatens, just walk - say nothing whatsoever.
If this has happened, and he does get all shirty just remember that there is no winning, wether it is by shouting or talking calmly. If you are then entering tit for tat malarky, then post in the pie and piston, and see what the most inappriately amusing "kill him with fire" / "knock his missus' back doors in" type comments take your fancy.
If he gets out of order, don't lose control - just simply calmly inform him that since he doesn't have a better idea, you'll continue to park there, as is your right to do so.
If the then threatens, just walk - say nothing whatsoever.
If this has happened, and he does get all shirty just remember that there is no winning, wether it is by shouting or talking calmly. If you are then entering tit for tat malarky, then post in the pie and piston, and see what the most inappriately amusing "kill him with fire" / "knock his missus' back doors in" type comments take your fancy.
Phone the agent and get them to sort it. You rented the property with parking and it doesn't have any...
Alternatively... go over and ask the bloke very pleasantly why he appears to be taking pictures of children? Or phone BiB and ask if anyone in your area is on 'the list' as there's a guy apparently taking pictures from his house and with young children it's very concerning...
Alternatively... go over and ask the bloke very pleasantly why he appears to be taking pictures of children? Or phone BiB and ask if anyone in your area is on 'the list' as there's a guy apparently taking pictures from his house and with young children it's very concerning...
fullbeem said:
When I viewed the property the agent advised that I should follow next door's approach and just drive across the grass to my property.
Can you remember exactly what was said? My beef would be with the agent, they have suggested how the parking arrangements would work and that is not how they work.
As for the neighbour, there must be some crafty plan you can come up with. Order him a skip maybe? Park it right outside, the rental would be worth it.
NDA said:
fullbeem said:
When I viewed the property the agent advised that I should follow next door's approach and just drive across the grass to my property.
Can you remember exactly what was said? My beef would be with the agent, they have suggested how the parking arrangements would work and that is not how they work.
As for the neighbour, there must be some crafty plan you can come up with. Order him a skip maybe? Park it right outside, the rental would be worth it.
FrankDrebbin said:
Personally, I'd go knock on his door and ask for a chat - ask him where he thinks you should park, bearing mind the kids / council.
If he gets out of order, don't lose control - just simply calmly inform him that since he doesn't have a better idea, you'll continue to park there, as is your right to do so.
If the then threatens, just walk - say nothing whatsoever.
If this has happened, and he does get all shirty just remember that there is no winning, wether it is by shouting or talking calmly. If you are then entering tit for tat malarky, then post in the pie and piston, and see what the most inappriately amusing "kill him with fire" / "knock his missus' back doors in" type comments take your fancy.
That sounds like good advice. However tempting it may be to take retaliatory action, it's not likely to end well. As Romanymagic pointed out, he's likely to have lived there for some time, and sounds like he has both the time and personality to escalate things to make your situation unbearable.If he gets out of order, don't lose control - just simply calmly inform him that since he doesn't have a better idea, you'll continue to park there, as is your right to do so.
If the then threatens, just walk - say nothing whatsoever.
If this has happened, and he does get all shirty just remember that there is no winning, wether it is by shouting or talking calmly. If you are then entering tit for tat malarky, then post in the pie and piston, and see what the most inappriately amusing "kill him with fire" / "knock his missus' back doors in" type comments take your fancy.
If you had assurances from the agent that you could park in front of your house in writing (or witnessed), I would certainly be taking it up with them. However, ultimately it seems that this house is unsuitable for you and it may be best to look for somewhere else, just use a different agent.
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