So, who pays for the religious post mortem by MRI...

[johnfm]

MRI post mortems for Jews and Muslims.

But who's paying (assuming it costs more than a bloke cutting up a body and poking about).

I thought this was a secular country. How odd.


http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article61...

[silver.fox.2008]

The bit in the article that say's...

"Families who opt for them are asked to foot the bill"

[Tiggsy]

did you not read it?

it states that familes pay if they want it. seems sensible enough...in fact, i'd be surprised if (in years to come) it's not the norm.


edit - beaten to it!

Edited by Tiggsy on Tuesday 21st April 16:07

[mechsympathy]

johnfm said:

MRI post mortems for Jews and Muslims.

But who's paying (assuming it costs more than a bloke cutting up a body and poking about).

I thought this was a secular country. How odd.


http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article61...

And quoted just in case....

[johnfm]

Meh!

Skim read it. Then skim scanned it for costs.

I shall just get my coat then!

[silver.fox.2008]

You scanned through an article, saw it had the word Muslim or Jew in it and thought to quickly post it on PH to try and provoke a response.

[johnfm]

silver.fox.2008 said:

You scanned through an article, saw it had the word Muslim or Jew in it and thought to quickly post it on PH to try and provoke a response.

err, no.

I skim read it.
Then skim read it again.
Surprised I couldn't see the cost of an MRI scan mentioned.
Sipped my tea.
Answered a phone call.
Did a search to see if someone else had already posted on the topic.
Noted no posts already in the new, fragmented fora system.
Sipped tea again.
Wrote post.
Answered call.

[Mojocvh]

Why is it limited to jews and muslims?

[MK4 Slowride]

johnfm said:

silver.fox.2008 said:

You scanned through an article, saw it had the word Muslim or Jew in it and thought to quickly post it on PH to try and provoke a response.

err, no.

I skim read it.
Then skim read it again.
Surprised I couldn't see the cost of an MRI scan mentioned.
Sipped my tea.
Answered a phone call.
Did a search to see if someone else had already posted on the topic.
Noted no posts already in the new, fragmented fora system.
Sipped tea again.
Wrote post.
Answered call.
Got flamed on PH

EFA

[Jasandjules]

Sounds like this is something EVERYONE should be offered, regardless of religion.

[Swilly]

johnfm said:

silver.fox.2008 said:

You scanned through an article, saw it had the word Muslim or Jew in it and thought to quickly post it on PH to try and provoke a response.

err, no.

I skim read it.
Then skim read it again.
Surprised I couldn't see the cost of an MRI scan mentioned.
Sipped my tea.
Answered a phone call.
Did a search to see if someone else had already posted on the topic.
Noted no posts already in the new, fragmented fora system.
Sipped tea again.
Wrote post.
Answered call.

Now is the time to accept your penance and shut up...

You will have wished you did by the time this thread hits 30 pages of people calling you a cocktard..

Cocktard !!

[mechsympathy]

Jasandjules said:

Sounds like this is something EVERYONE should be offered, regardless of religion.

Why? It's an inefficient way of doing it. No one should be offered it.

[Jasandjules]

mechsympathy said:

Jasandjules said:

Sounds like this is something EVERYONE should be offered, regardless of religion.

Why? It's an inefficient way of doing it. No one should be offered it.

Well, if someone would rather not have their loved cut dissected then why not let them pay for it?

[mechsympathy]

Jasandjules said:

Well, if someone would rather not have their loved cut dissected then why not let them pay for it?

I guess that depends on why the PM is being done. If it's to establish the cause of death for society's benefit and to check there's no foul play then the family's squeamishness shouldn't come into it. An MRI won't pick up the signs of poisoning for example.

[Tiggsy]

Mojocvh said:

Why is it limited to jews and muslims?

It's not - the article ALSO states it's avalible for all faiths.

flippen heck...it's easy to see how "black boards banned in schools" type rubbish comes about!

[Swilly]

Tiggsy said:

Mojocvh said:

Why is it limited to jews and muslims?

It's not - the article ALSO states it's avalible for all faiths.

flippen heck...it's easy to see how "black boards banned in schools" type rubbish comes about!

What !? Have black boards been banned in school !? FFS what is the world coming to jeezus......

[otolith]

From the article:

Times said:

The area has a large Jewish and Muslim community, but the scan is available to people of all faiths.

and

Times said:

The 3D scans, like those used on pregnant women, cost £500, with subsequent scans costing £350 each. Families who opt for them are asked to foot the bill.

and

Times said:

However, the Ministry made clear that because an MRI scan may not be the appropriate means to determining a cause of death in every case, the coroner will be required to make the decision on a case by case basis.

Provided that those principles are adhered to, I have no problem with this.

[Swilly]

otolith said:

From the article:

Times said:

The area has a large Jewish and Muslim community, but the scan is available to people of all faiths.

Ohhhh so its not available to people of no faith !! I can't believe the discriminatory nature of this. Jeeezus. FFS

and

Times said:

The 3D scans, like those used on pregnant women, cost £500, with subsequent scans costing £350 each. Families who opt for them are asked to foot the bill.

Ohhhh so its families that have to pay but what about single people? I can't believe the discriminatory nature of this. Jeezus. FFS
and

Times said:

However, the Ministry made clear that because an MRI scan may not be the appropriate means to determining a cause of death in every case, the coroner will be required to make the decision on a case by case basis.

Ohhhh so its the Coroner who gets to chose is it, its not a free choice for everyone. I can't believe the discriminatory nature of this. Jeezus. FFS.

Provided that those principles are adhered to, I have no problem with this.
Ohhhh so you have no problem with this then do you. I can't believe... ad infinitum ad nauseam

[otolith]

[Tiggsy]

Hang on.....am i reading this right? Is this not avalible to people who aren't dead yet? what a joke, who do i complain to?