Flogged fake GHDs. Legal advice?
Flogged fake GHDs. Legal advice?
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G_T

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211 months

Friday 12th June 2009
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Moderators please do not relocate this thread to legal issues or any of the others as they are almost exclusive aimed at motoring advice! Thanks.

Well as per the thread title I was flogged a pair of fake GHDs just before Xmas. I was assured they were real and simply imported in bulk. As the price wasn't particularly cheap at £65 I foolishly believed this and bought a pair for the mrs.

The problem is that said fake GHDs were sold to me by my boss who was selling them on behalf of her nephew.

They melted, the off switch did not work and we narrowly avoided a fire. It has taken GHD 6 months to get written proof that they are indeed dangerous forgeries.

My initial thoughts of simply kicking up a fuss at work and then tracking the guy down to kick his teeth in have dismissed on the grounds of maturity.

Unfortunately I do not have the guys address as I never dealt with him face to face but a cheque was cashed from my bank account.

Does anybody know where I stand legally? I'm not too arsed about the money but these things are fking dangerous and I want him to at least contact who he has sold them to.

Typically I would just report it to whatever authority needs to know but as my Director was the mediator of the sale I would like to know where I stand first.

To complicate matters further I have already been disciplined earlier this week so any acts of "causing problems" could easily be the nail in my professional coffin officially or otherwise.

I find it incredibly unlikely he didn't know but I'm sure that would be his defence. There's also no receipts or anything as I foolishly trusted the Director.







ian_uk1975

1,192 posts

223 months

Friday 12th June 2009
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What's GHD?????

jesta1865

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230 months

Friday 12th June 2009
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pass them to trading standards giving the nephews name and they will do the rest.

perhaps you could have a chat with the boss and explain why you have done this, or even suggest he talks to the nephew first and see what he has to say for himself. awkward i know, but what happens if someone gets hurt and the boss gets into trouble, that may look worse

Cara Van Man

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anonymous said:
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rofl

Rav

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251 months

Friday 12th June 2009
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Hair straighteners - come on get in touch with your feminine side......

Cas_P

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204 months

Friday 12th June 2009
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Have you spoken to your boss about this yet?


G_T

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Friday 12th June 2009
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Lol @ above posts.

They're hair straighteners and I have no idea what GHD stands for.

jesta1865 said:
pass them to trading standards giving the nephews name and they will do the rest.

perhaps you could have a chat with the boss and explain why you have done this, or even suggest he talks to the nephew first and see what he has to say for himself. awkward i know, but what happens if someone gets hurt and the boss gets into trouble, that may look worse
Unfortunately I don't have his details otherwise this is the line I would take! The only details is confirmation by my bank that a cheque was cashed. I don't even know the account it was cashed into and I suspect that the bank will pull some data protection bks as to why I'm not allowed know where my money went.

eightseventhree

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225 months

Friday 12th June 2009
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So you thought u were going to skimp on the mrs present and buy some nocked off goods and now you have been busted!

£65 for ghd's would be very cheep . . .i got my mrs some 2 years ago off a mate who worked for ghd and she got them at staff rates and they were still £75.

paulmurr

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233 months

Friday 12th June 2009
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G_T said:
GHD stands for.
Good Hair Day

paperbag

G_T

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Cas_P said:
Have you spoken to your boss about this yet?
Nope. I have been waiting for 6 months for written proof that they were fake.

As mentioned I'm on thin ice at work so I'm not going into any one to one meetings without 3rd party evidence and a decent knowledge of the legal aspects of our situation.



G_T

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eightseventhree said:
So you thought u were going to skimp on the mrs present and buy some nocked off goods and now you have been busted!

£65 for ghd's would be very cheep . . .i got my mrs some 2 years ago off a mate who worked for ghd and she got them at staff rates and they were still £75.
Well I know for a fact that circa £70 is wholesale price and they were sold as such so hardly believe £65 is suspiciously cheap under the circumstance.

But of course I was wrong so...

james_tigerwoods

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218 months

Friday 12th June 2009
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I don't think you've got a legal leg to stand on - you bought a product from a "friend of a friend" that may or may not have been real. GHDs at £65 are always going to be either fake or nicked.

Worst case, you could have been done for something involving (handling perhaps) stolen goods - best case, you write off the £65.

I'd have a word with your boss who will probably give you a gallic shrug....

paulmurr

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Oooh, get you sailor wink

G_T

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G_T

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james_tigerwoods said:
I don't think you've got a legal leg to stand on - you bought a product from a "friend of a friend" that may or may not have been real. GHDs at £65 are always going to be either fake or nicked.

Worst case, you could have been done for something involving (handling perhaps) stolen goods - best case, you write off the £65.

I'd have a word with your boss who will probably give you a gallic shrug....
The guy is a registered UK trader.

I fail to believe a company owner can sell counterfeit goods that are very dangerous without any sort of come back. With or without a receipt there's a cheque cashed by him possibly into his company account.


Cas_P

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204 months

Friday 12th June 2009
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Well, if they tried to fire you because you questioned fake goods that were stolen to you then i'd say you would have a pretty good T.U case smile.

Just speak to her about it in a friendly manner, ask her to speak to her nephew about it, and explain that you have waited a very long time for GHD to get back to you on wether they are real or not. If she does nothing decent, hand them over to trading standards, with her details, since regardless of wether she was a third party, she still sold them to you, if you can't get the nephews details from her.


james_tigerwoods

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G_T said:
The guy is a registered UK trader.
I didn't notice that - Did you get a receipt or other proof of purchase? You may need to "prove" that the £65 was for the GHDs.

If he's a trader and you can prove you got them from him and he sold you dodgy GHDs - then I'd try raising it with him first (if you can find him that is) and then head right on over to Trading Standards with as much information as you can get.

G_T

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Cas_P said:
...Some sensible things...
Aye, I think that's probably the best course of action.

Sounds bloody complicated though. I'd sooner just give him a good hiding for endangering my home and ripping me off...

Oh to be a cave man.

Mojooo

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201 months

Friday 12th June 2009
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G_T said:
james_tigerwoods said:
I don't think you've got a legal leg to stand on - you bought a product from a "friend of a friend" that may or may not have been real. GHDs at £65 are always going to be either fake or nicked.

Worst case, you could have been done for something involving (handling perhaps) stolen goods - best case, you write off the £65.

I'd have a word with your boss who will probably give you a gallic shrug....
The guy is a registered UK trader.

I fail to believe a company owner can sell counterfeit goods that are very dangerous without any sort of come back. With or without a receipt there's a cheque cashed by him possibly into his company account.
if he is a business then he can be done for selling fake and dangerous goods so reprot to TS.

if you dont know who it is selling them then unless you want a ruckus with your boss then might as well forget it

G_T

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james_tigerwoods said:
G_T said:
The guy is a registered UK trader.
I didn't notice that - Did you get a receipt or other proof of purchase? You may need to "prove" that the £65 was for the GHDs.

If he's a trader and you can prove you got them from him and he sold you dodgy GHDs - then I'd try raising it with him first (if you can find him that is) and then head right on over to Trading Standards with as much information as you can get.
Well, as I said, he cashed the cheque and there's a record of that but I'm not allowed access it as a civilian.

There's also 3 other members of staff in work but I'm not entirely confident they'd come forward to provide statements.