Terrorists - Their heart just isn't in it?
Terrorists - Their heart just isn't in it?
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dan1981

17,939 posts

221 months

Monday 22nd June 2009
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We keep being told about how the country is infested with terrorists of all nasty sorts and kinds, and hw we need to be on the lookout for their next big "strike."

But to be honest I think they're a bit rubbish - all mouth and no trouser to be honest.

My point is - how hard can it be to complete a terrrorist attack?

I was at Silverstone at the weekend, on Friday and Saturday there were no bag searches on entry and on Sunday there was a recorded message saying there "may be random bag searches" - i didn't see any.

If these terrorists do exist and they want to strike terror into our nation why don't they get on with doing it? Over the weekend it would have been easy to have wandered into Silverstone with a rucksack full of explosives, a ticket bought from Ebay for one of the grandstands, and boom. Numerous dead, plenty injured and the most important bit for the terrorists - they make a statement.

The terror that could be brough to the country with just a few smaller attacks rather than massive coordinated ones would be immense.

They've either not through this through properly, their heart isn't in it, or the continuous stories we hear about these extremsist existing are fictitious.


10 Pence Short

32,880 posts

239 months

Monday 22nd June 2009
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Surely you're not catching on to the fact the Terrorism is just a convenient excuse to curtail freedoms and add costs?

Knowing my luck some tanned backpacker from West Yorkshire will blow themselves up in the middle of something busy just as I type this...

DOOG

1,905 posts

268 months

Monday 22nd June 2009
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Hello GCHQ

wavey

Conian

8,030 posts

223 months

Monday 22nd June 2009
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Talibanian People's Front? fk OFF!
We're the People's Front of Talibania. Splitters.

lawrence567

7,507 posts

212 months

Monday 22nd June 2009
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The FBI & MI5 will now be on the way to your place...

Pony

927 posts

242 months

Monday 22nd June 2009
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is it not difficult to prepare explosives without people noticing?



look at the 7/7 bombings and you notice they're using chapatti flour and peroxide, now that to me says they must be having some difficulty importing "proper" plastic explosives

so, to that extenet i beleive who ever handles our counter terroism is doing their job.


and i'm sure i've heard of about 2-3 failed bombing attempts since then


Scrumper

318 posts

204 months

Monday 22nd June 2009
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lawrence567 said:
The FBI & MI5 will now be on the way to your place...
DOOG said:
Hello GCHQ
Interesting. The real effect, then, of anti-terror laws is to make the ordinary public afraid to discuss the laws themselves, and by extension, afraid to question the government too.

Peter Mandleson said:
Mwuhahahahahahaha!

angryS3owner

15,855 posts

251 months

Monday 22nd June 2009
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Please see 10-20 years ago, the IRA were good at it, they killed many, many people and yet we just kept going without batting an eye lid. These fking idiots can hardly do anything right (other than Sep 11th) and yet all of a sudden it's a big deal. Jog on. I'd rather have a higher risk of being blown up than have personal freedom's taken away.

HereBeMonsters

14,180 posts

204 months

Monday 22nd June 2009
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DOOG said:
Hello GCHQ

wavey
So yes, now we're afraid to talk about things like this in case the Government are watching.

hugo a gogo

23,421 posts

255 months

Monday 22nd June 2009
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angryS3owner said:
Please see 10-20 years ago, the IRA were good at it, they killed many, many people and yet we just kept going without batting an eye lid.
then they disrupted the City and suddenly the negotiating tables were brought out

lesson learned for terrorists? always go for the big money targets

kill as many kids in shopping centres as you like, but don't ever interfere with business

The Moose

23,532 posts

231 months

Monday 22nd June 2009
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I think the thing is, if you wanted to do this it would be really rather easy, yes. The reason being you would keep it a secret from EVERYONE. But these extremists can't keep it a secret as they seem to keep bringing in more people and telling people who end up calling 999. Surely this has a contributing factor to it??

Or am I off the mark here??

Cheers

The Moose

longblackcoat

5,047 posts

205 months

Monday 22nd June 2009
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angryS3owner said:
Please see 10-20 years ago, the IRA were good at it, they killed many, many people and yet we just kept going without batting an eye lid. These fking idiots can hardly do anything right (other than Sep 11th) and yet all of a sudden it's a big deal. Jog on. I'd rather have a higher risk of being blown up than have personal freedom's taken away.
Completely agree. What the 'terror threat' (I use the term loosely as I'm not sure it really exists) has done is to allow jobsworths at airports to assert their power and act like Stazi henchmen, force the rest of us to carry no more than the smallest amount of shampoo etc in our hand luggage. Just by making act like a bunch of scared sheep the terrorists have won, becuase we're now taking them seriously, and people like my mother-in-law won'[t fly becuase they honestly believe that there's a good chance they'll be blown up.

Of course there are terrorists out there, but if any of them haven't figured out a way of smuggling liquids which could be used for bombmaking into the airports (say, for instance, the huge quantities of liquids going in to supply WH Smith, the pubs/restaurants etc) then they're not trying very hard.

Not that one

2,496 posts

217 months

Monday 22nd June 2009
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Someone once told me the following, never tried it so not sure if its true.

If you send an email to your own email address (but from a different address from the one you are sending it to) with a random bit of text, and the subject line Kill The President, then send another one straight after with some random text, and a random subject, the one without the killing reference will arrive first, as ALL emails are automatically scanned for certain key words?
Is this bullst?

The Moose

23,532 posts

231 months

Monday 22nd June 2009
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Not that one said:
Someone once told me the following, never tried it so not sure if its true.

If you send an email to your own email address (but from a different address from the one you are sending it to) with a random bit of text, and the subject line Kill The President, then send another one straight after with some random text, and a random subject, the one without the killing reference will arrive first, as ALL emails are automatically scanned for certain key words?
Is this bullst?
There are many many many different things that could cause the delay

Cheers

The Moose

LividSV

1,335 posts

214 months

Monday 22nd June 2009
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Easy, because 9/11 was not only involving the planes, nor was the London bombing only involving the bombers =)

Not that one

2,496 posts

217 months

Monday 22nd June 2009
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who's gonna give this a go?

silver.fox.2008

820 posts

212 months

Monday 22nd June 2009
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Not that one said:
Someone once told me the following, never tried it so not sure if its true.

If you send an email to your own email address (but from a different address from the one you are sending it to) with a random bit of text, and the subject line Kill The President, then send another one straight after with some random text, and a random subject, the one without the killing reference will arrive first, as ALL emails are automatically scanned for certain key words?
Is this bullst?
Give it a try.

Let us know how the rectal examination went hehe

f13ldy

1,432 posts

223 months

Monday 22nd June 2009
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I agree.

I was stopped once again by the random explosives check at Canary Wharf over the weekend.

The guy just merely dusts your steering wheel and drivers door handle and puts it in a machine to look for explosive residue. When it gets the all clear they lift the gate.

Well guess what chap, my passenger has done all the handling wearing a full protective suit and my boot is full to the brim with ACME tnt.

Fume troll

4,389 posts

234 months

Monday 22nd June 2009
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Absolutely. If you get a bunch of engineers together in the pub, they will come up with lots of things which are relatively simple to do but which would cost multiple billions of pounds to fix. You could absolutely cripple the country in fairly short order. There is tons that terrorists could do if they were serious.

Cheers,

FT.

lawrence567

7,507 posts

212 months

Monday 22nd June 2009
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Scrumper said:
lawrence567 said:
The FBI & MI5 will now be on the way to your place...
DOOG said:
Hello GCHQ
Interesting. The real effect, then, of anti-terror laws is to make the ordinary public afraid to discuss the laws themselves, and by extension, afraid to question the government too.

Peter Mandleson said:
Mwuhahahahahahaha!
I'm not fussed it's not me discussing it.