some scum has debited....
some scum has debited....
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Tony 1234

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3,465 posts

250 months

Saturday 27th June 2009
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my account for a download, I have been buying a lot of goods on the phone at a certain outlet so at least 3 people know my card details!

Cannot get through to Barclays what can I do to get a refund/get the name of the scum who has downloaded some material?

Thanks

NDA

24,634 posts

248 months

Saturday 27th June 2009
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Tony 1234 said:
what can I do to get a refund/get the name of the scum who has downloaded some material?

Thanks
'Some material' ? snigger.

Tony 1234

Original Poster:

3,465 posts

250 months

Saturday 27th June 2009
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NDA said:
Tony 1234 said:
what can I do to get a refund/get the name of the scum who has downloaded some material?

Thanks
'Some material' ? snigger.
The payment was to Payloadzcom

Austin.J

888 posts

215 months

Saturday 27th June 2009
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File a fraud claim with your bank, either go in to branch or ring them up. branch is easiest as IIRC if its under £300 they can pay it there and then if its a straight forward claim.

Nickyboy

6,793 posts

257 months

Saturday 27th June 2009
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https://www.payloadz.com/

Edited by Nickyboy on Saturday 27th June 12:33

Tony 1234

Original Poster:

3,465 posts

250 months

Saturday 27th June 2009
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Austin.J said:
File a fraud claim with your bank, either go in to branch or ring them up. branch is easiest as IIRC if its under £300 they can pay it there and then if its a straight forward claim.
Thank you, just wish I could trace the individual through their ISP ?

Austin.J

888 posts

215 months

Saturday 27th June 2009
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Tony 1234 said:
Austin.J said:
File a fraud claim with your bank, either go in to branch or ring them up. branch is easiest as IIRC if its under £300 they can pay it there and then if its a straight forward claim.
Thank you, just wish I could trace the individual through their ISP ?
Not sure if YOU can but i know your bank can.

ETA: They cannot give you any details of the scammer if they're caught, just in case you were wanting some vigalante action.shoot

Edited by Austin.J on Saturday 27th June 14:28

Tony 1234

Original Poster:

3,465 posts

250 months

Thursday 9th July 2009
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UPDATE

Well, I received a refund this morning from Payloadz.com, I did not think they would refund me I thought my bank would have done that?

Got the IP address of the scammer, not that it will do me any good!!

F355gtb2009

1,725 posts

203 months

Thursday 9th July 2009
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give me the ip address

Scraggles

7,619 posts

247 months

Thursday 9th July 2009
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ip address and time = a specific computer

http://www.who.is/

to get their isp details

involve the police smile

esselte

14,626 posts

290 months

Thursday 9th July 2009
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Scraggles said:
ip address and time = a specific computer

http://www.who.is/

to get their isp details

involve the police smile
Wouldn't it just show a specific router? ie if someone had "piggybacked" onto an unsecured wireless router to do the transaction wouldn't the ISP just see the router address and not the lappy (for example) that the actual transaction was done on....if you see what I mean...

F355gtb2009

1,725 posts

203 months

Thursday 9th July 2009
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depends on how the theif was connected ,but from ip there wud usually be a mac address logged aswell,unfortunatly if he does this for a living then he wouldbe using a proxy browser!

fastcaterham

420 posts

217 months

Thursday 9th July 2009
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Don't worry somebody debited my account for a grand earlier and used it to pay off a debt collection company, their electric bill and a phone bill. Only found out when I got home from work and my mum told me that she'd been on the phone to them all afternoon explaining that I didn't owe some random debt company £300. They've put a stop on my card and are sending me a new one so they said and are currently investigating but does anybody know how all this usually works?

esselte

14,626 posts

290 months

Friday 10th July 2009
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F355gtb2009 said:
depends on how the theif was connected ,but from ip there wud usually be a mac address logged aswell,unfortunatly if he does this for a living then he wouldbe using a proxy browser!
And how many millions of mac addresses are there? Even if you could get it you'd be hard pushed to match it to any person....

Tycho

12,116 posts

296 months

Friday 10th July 2009
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fastcaterham said:
Don't worry somebody debited my account for a grand earlier and used it to pay off a debt collection company, their electric bill and a phone bill. Only found out when I got home from work and my mum told me that she'd been on the phone to them all afternoon explaining that I didn't owe some random debt company £300. They've put a stop on my card and are sending me a new one so they said and are currently investigating but does anybody know how all this usually works?
Surely that isn't a bright thing to do. I'm guessing that all those companies know where they live.

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

278 months

Friday 10th July 2009
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Worst The Missus Rumbled Me thread ever....

scorp

8,783 posts

252 months

Friday 10th July 2009
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esselte said:
F355gtb2009 said:
depends on how the theif was connected ,but from ip there wud usually be a mac address logged aswell,unfortunatly if he does this for a living then he wouldbe using a proxy browser!
And how many millions of mac addresses are there? Even if you could get it you'd be hard pushed to match it to any person....
Don't think MAC addresses are sent over the internet usually.

scorp

8,783 posts

252 months

Friday 10th July 2009
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esselte said:
Wouldn't it just show a specific router? ie if someone had "piggybacked" onto an unsecured wireless router to do the transaction wouldn't the ISP just see the router address and not the lappy (for example) that the actual transaction was done on....if you see what I mean...
yes

XJSJohn

16,124 posts

242 months

Friday 10th July 2009
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scorp said:
esselte said:
Wouldn't it just show a specific router? ie if someone had "piggybacked" onto an unsecured wireless router to do the transaction wouldn't the ISP just see the router address and not the lappy (for example) that the actual transaction was done on....if you see what I mean...
yes
but if you have got as far as the public facing router / firewall and have a time-stamp then (assuming that its a company with a security team that knows their stuff) can then trace from their own internal firewall logs where that came from in their own domain.


F355gtb2009

1,725 posts

203 months

Friday 10th July 2009
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XJSJohn said:
scorp said:
esselte said:
Wouldn't it just show a specific router? ie if someone had "piggybacked" onto an unsecured wireless router to do the transaction wouldn't the ISP just see the router address and not the lappy (for example) that the actual transaction was done on....if you see what I mean...
yes
but if you have got as far as the public facing router / firewall and have a time-stamp then (assuming that its a company with a security team that knows their stuff) can then trace from their own internal firewall logs where that came from in their own domain.
exactly,mac address are logged on a router and timing of connections,hence why an ip would help ,but as i said if he was smart then he wud be proxy browsing from an internet wifi hotspot