Profound Thought for the Day!
Profound Thought for the Day!
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Jimbeaux

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33,791 posts

254 months

Monday 10th August 2009
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This speaks for many of us, I believe:

"You cannot legislate the poor into freedom by
legislating the wealthy out of freedom. What one person
receives without working for, another person must work for
without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody
anything that the government does not first take from
somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that
they do not have to work because the other half is going to
take care of them, and when the other half gets the idea
that it does no good to work because somebody else is going
to get what they work for, that my dear friend, is about the
end of any nation .. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing
it."

~~~~~ Dr. Adrian Rogers, 1931




theaxe

3,571 posts

245 months

Monday 10th August 2009
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Nice... Perhaps this should be printed on all notes.

JuniorD

9,013 posts

246 months

Monday 10th August 2009
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Proabably pissed at some commie bird for not letting him get the leg over

Papa_Hotel

12,760 posts

205 months

Monday 10th August 2009
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Deep. I'm off to watch the Matrix.

Jimbeaux

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254 months

Monday 10th August 2009
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I think it is akin to whatever Brit said that "The bad thing about Socialism is that you run out of other people's money.", or some such thing.

Eric Mc

124,808 posts

288 months

Monday 10th August 2009
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But can you expect fairness if you allow the wealthy to operate totally unrestricted?

G_T

16,163 posts

213 months

Monday 10th August 2009
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As much as I enjoyed that quotation it's not like he said anything Earth shattering did he? He's just voicing the typical conservative position.

Unless I've misunderstood, in laymans terms he's just saying "If you tax the st out of the rich to provide for the poor, the poor will get lazy because they will live for free and the rich will refuse to work and then we'll all be fked".

The quotation is just common sense in my opinion. However the simple fact is in any ethical society you will need to tax the rich more than the poor. How much you tax and how you spend the money is the only area of dispute. The real problem is addressing the balance.

Should this be in politics? biggrin










Edited by G_T on Monday 10th August 14:50

Jimbeaux

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Monday 10th August 2009
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Eric Mc said:
But can you expect fairness if you allow the wealthy to operate totally unrestricted?
Absolutely not. However, perpetuating entitlement at the direct expense of the wealth creators will cause them to lose the incentive to create anymore knowing it will cost them. A common misconception is that it is the "wealthy" creating the wealth. In the U.S. small businesses make up the majority of employment, not huge corporations. They are usually not wealthy, but create jobs for many Americans. If these entitlement programs hit the small businesses, they simply hire less people and less wages are paid, less taxes are generated, and the economy takes a hit. When "Spread the wealth" is touted, it is the small businesses, not just the major corporations being targeted for contribution.

Justayellowbadge

37,057 posts

265 months

Monday 10th August 2009
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10 men go to a bar...

G_T

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213 months

Monday 10th August 2009
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Justayellowbadge said:
10 men go to a bar...
Oh don't. Please.

Do you not remember the 8 pages it took before someone manage to convince me that that arguement had any merit whatsoever?

Worst analogy ever.

Jimbeaux

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254 months

Monday 10th August 2009
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Yes, it is just common sense. However, it is not so common anymore and needs to be given CPR.

Justayellowbadge

37,057 posts

265 months

Monday 10th August 2009
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hehe

Simpo Two

91,364 posts

288 months

Monday 10th August 2009
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Well said.

And therein lies the Achilles Heel of Socialism. The UK is just past the tipping point I'd say.

Spiritual_Beggar

4,833 posts

217 months

Monday 10th August 2009
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G_T said:
Justayellowbadge said:
10 men go to a bar...
Oh don't. Please.

Do you not remember the 8 pages it took before someone manage to convince me that that arguement had any merit whatsoever?

Worst analogy ever.
rofl



But with regards to the post above.

I agree. It is hard to see how Britain could get itslef out of this situation. Whatever action NEEDS to be taken will result in pissing off a huge portion of the coutnry. None of the parties will want to be the ones to take that action though, as (due to the short-sightedness of the British public) it would be political suicide!

Edited by Spiritual_Beggar on Monday 10th August 15:20

Jimbeaux

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Monday 10th August 2009
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Our current leadership is flirting with very similar courses of action. rolleyes

esselte

14,626 posts

290 months

Monday 10th August 2009
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Simpo Two said:
Well said.

And therein lies the Achilles Heel of Socialism. The UK is just past the tipping point I'd say.
Eventually they run out of other people's money to spend..

johnfm

13,746 posts

273 months

Monday 10th August 2009
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G_T said:
Justayellowbadge said:
10 men go to a bar...
Oh don't. Please.

Do you not remember the 8 pages it took before someone manage to convince me that that arguement had any merit whatsoever?

Worst analogy ever.
Did it take that long because you're a bit thick?

rhinochopig

17,932 posts

221 months

Monday 10th August 2009
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Jimbeaux said:
Our current leadership is flirting with very similar courses of action. rolleyes
Flirting? It's a full blown torrid sordid affair, meeting in dirty motel rooms, with bleeding bumholes and everything.

Jimbeaux

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254 months

Monday 10th August 2009
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rhinochopig said:
Jimbeaux said:
Our current leadership is flirting with very similar courses of action. rolleyes
Flirting? It's a full blown torrid sordid affair, meeting in dirty motel rooms, with bleeding bumholes and everything.
100% true. The possible stoppage is that many of these Utopian la la land proposals that Obama and the Senate leadership want, have to be passed by Senators who come from moderate states and want to keep their job. Much of the Senate is up for re election in less than two years.

OnTheOverrun

3,965 posts

200 months

Monday 10th August 2009
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Jimbeaux said:
What one person
receives without working for, another person must work for
without receiving.
I like the sentiment, but isn't that a tiny bit hypocritical coming from a country taken by force from its natives and then built for the next hundred years on slavery, where people who work receive nothing and those who own them receive everything without working?

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